Bitcoin debit card

**ClippersSux** · 03-18-20, 07:59 AM

Does anybody know how many confirmations it takes for a bitcoin deposit into the card to be official and we're able to convert to cash?

**DroopyDog** · 03-18-20, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by ClippersSux

Does anybody know how many confirmations it takes for a bitcoin deposit into the card to be official and we're able to convert to cash?

One

**themike78** · 03-18-20, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by ClippersSux

Does anybody know how many confirmations it takes for a bitcoin deposit into the card to be official and we're able to convert to cash?

If you send with a high fee it's 0 confirmations. A low fee would require 1 confirmation.

**hello1234567** · 03-18-20, 07:25 PM

Found another Cyptro card called Block Card. Anyone have experience with that card?

**themike78** · 03-19-20, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by hello1234567

Found another Cyptro card called Block Card. Anyone have experience with that card?

It's from the same bank as bitpaycard. Metropolitan bank. Seems legit.

**habitualwinning** · 04-16-20, 06:57 PM

. accidental duplicate post ooops...

**habitualwinning** · 04-16-20, 06:59 PM

I have a ? about prepaid debit cards in general. Like just regular ones that only deal with USD, not crypto. I've been following this thread since the beginning and I remember some of you guys referencing using prepaid cards through the years. Can anybody tell me what the best ones are? I'm looking for one(s) that have the highest daily load limits and highest daily atm withdraw limits. I've been looking at them and some are really mickey mouse like less than $1000 atm daily limits and/or low load amounts. Cmon, what am I missing? Where are the good ones with high limits daily at least mid 4 figures?

**littlekona** · 04-16-20, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

I have a ? about prepaid debit cards in general. Like just regular ones that only deal with USD, not crypto. I've been following this thread since the beginning and I remember some of you guys referencing using prepaid cards through the years. Can anybody tell me what the best ones are? I'm looking for one(s) that have the highest daily load limits and highest daily atm withdraw limits. I've been looking at them and some are really mickey mouse like less than $1000 atm daily limits and/or low load amounts. Cmon, what am I missing? Where are the good ones with high limits daily at least mid 4 figures?

net spend green dot and bluebird are the top and trusted ones. Bitpay is also very solid and the cryto one of choice

if you think u will get huge cash withdrawal limits with no oversight you are dreaming

**habitualwinning** · 04-16-20, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

net spend green dot and bluebird are the top and trusted ones. Bitpay is also very solid and the cryto one of choice

if you think u will get huge cash withdrawal limits with no oversight you are dreaming

Thanks for the response. Ya I've had a bitpay since a little bit after this thread started but I'm losing interest in crypto honestly.

So is it not feasible to be able to load say $5k or $10k on a netspd, greend or bluebird in my hometown then travel to a casino in a different state and pull the money out there so I can gamble? Then reload the money on the card(s) when I'm done? Carrying a large sum of cash like that is asinine. It's a security risk and at risk of being confiscated if you get pulled over by cops or anything. Hence where the cards come into play. Thoughts?

**littlekona** · 04-17-20, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

Thanks for the response. Ya I've had a bitpay since a little bit after this thread started but I'm losing interest in crypto honestly.

So is it not feasible to be able to load say $5k or $10k on a netspd, greend or bluebird in my hometown then travel to a casino in a different state and pull the money out there so I can gamble? Then reload the money on the card(s) when I'm done? Carrying a large sum of cash like that is asinine. It's a security risk and at risk of being confiscated if you get pulled over by cops or anything. Hence where the cards come into play. Thoughts?

they all have caps you will have to look at each one terms. They also participate in the patriot act so moving big money will set off red flags...Not sure why you would want to load card with 10K then pull out when you get to casino that sounds odd to me. Cops are not going to seize your funds from casino or racetrack unless you have some sort of prior criminal history

**habitualwinning** · 04-17-20, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

they all have caps you will have to look at each one terms. They also participate in the patriot act so moving big money will set off red flags...Not sure why you would want to load card with 10K then pull out when you get to casino that sounds odd to me. Cops are not going to seize your funds from casino or racetrack unless you have some sort of prior criminal history

Is there a better way of moving large amounts of money then, that I'm unaware of?

How else are you supposed to be able to take out say $5-$10k to gamble with without carrying it in your pocket? Like for example my local bank, I live in a rural area, is really mickey mouse. The atm limit is $400 per 24 hour period. So that does me no good if i have $25k in my checking and want to pull out $5k at a casino in a different state to lay on sports games and play poker. At least with these prepaid cards i can withdraw $3k at wallmart or go into a national bank like ch*se or b*am and tell them I want $5k otc withdraw. You see what I'm saying?

And about the cash seizures there are multiple states where it's a law where cops seize your cash if it's more than like $1500 or $2000. I can't remember all of them but I know KY, TN, OK and others. It's called civil asset forfeiture and it happens to anyone even people with no criminal history. It's a state by state law so it just depends on the state. Your state might not have it but some do.

**aston** · 04-17-20, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

Is there a better way of moving large amounts of money then, that I'm unaware of?

How else are you supposed to be able to take out say $5-$10k to gamble with without carrying it in your pocket? Like for example my local bank, I live in a rural area, is really mickey mouse. The atm limit is $400 per 24 hour period. So that does me no good if i have $25k in my checking and want to pull out $5k at a casino in a different state to lay on sports games and play poker. At least with these prepaid cards i can withdraw $3k at wallmart or go into a national bank like ch*se or b*am and tell them I want $5k otc withdraw. You see what I'm saying?

And about the cash seizures there are multiple states where it's a law where cops seize your cash if it's more than like $1500 or $2000. I can't remember all of them but I know KY, TN, OK and others. It's called civil asset forfeiture and it happens to anyone even people with no criminal history. It's a state by state law so it just depends on the state. Your state might not have it but some do.

cant you just use a credit card with high limit??

**mrpapageorgio** · 04-17-20, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

Is there a better way of moving large amounts of money then, that I'm unaware of?

How else are you supposed to be able to take out say $5-$10k to gamble with without carrying it in your pocket? Like for example my local bank, I live in a rural area, is really mickey mouse. The atm limit is $400 per 24 hour period. So that does me no good if i have $25k in my checking and want to pull out $5k at a casino in a different state to lay on sports games and play poker. At least with these prepaid cards i can withdraw $3k at wallmart or go into a national bank like ch*se or b*am and tell them I want $5k otc withdraw. You see what I'm saying?

And about the cash seizures there are multiple states where it's a law where cops seize your cash if it's more than like $1500 or $2000. I can't remember all of them but I know KY, TN, OK and others. It's called civil asset forfeiture and it happens to anyone even people with no criminal history. It's a state by state law so it just depends on the state. Your state might not have it but some do.

How far are you driving? You're still risking getting pulled over between the bank and the casino when you pull money out or put it in. And I can't think of a way for a casino to put money on a card so you have to leave with the cash one way or another. Withdrawing is one thing inside the casino, but they're going to charge you a fortune in fees to do it at the cage.
Personally I'd just have a large national bank account open that's near the casino if my local is no good and Zelle or Google Pay between accounts when about to withdraw (or just use the national account as my gambling account) then take the money out at the large branch and deposit in their ATM at night on the way home.

**habitualwinning** · 04-17-20, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

How far are you driving? You're still risking getting pulled over between the bank and the casino when you pull money out or put it in. And I can't think of a way for a casino to put money on a card so you have to leave with the cash one way or another. Withdrawing is one thing inside the casino, but they're going to charge you a fortune in fees to do it at the cage.
Personally I'd just have a large national bank account open that's near the casino if my local is no good and Zelle or Google Pay between accounts when about to withdraw (or just use the national account as my gambling account) then take the money out at the large branch and deposit in their ATM at night on the way home.

Ya I think you're right. I might just open a national bank acct like b*ofam or wellf*rgo and just use that as my "gambling acct" since I don't have any large bank branches near me.

I've been researching this topic all day. Only other solutions I found were getting a travelers check at my local bank then cashing that at the casino cage.

I guess I'm weird or something but I like to go on gambling tours, where I go to a state and hit up a few different casinos there. I've done NV, MS, MO, IA. Plan on doing more states once the country reopens. It's just a pastime I have. That's why I've been asking these weird ?s about moving money in and out of casinos. So far I've just been rolling around with wads of cash in my wallet but I'm done doing that. Gonna try out some of these other options and ask more ?s to the casino staff and cashiers from now on until I find the best methods. Thanks for the replies.

**Optional** · 04-18-20, 05:07 AM

You can probably send a wire to the first casino before you leave.

**habitualwinning** · 04-18-20, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Optional

You can probably send a wire to the first casino before you leave.

I'll definitely look into that. That would make things super easy. I'm also wondering now if any of the national brand casinos like caesars, penn, mgm etc. let you wire money between their properties? Like say I'm leaving one caesars casino and going to another casino they own in a different city or state if they could wire my money there so I don't have to drive around with a wad of cash in my pocket.

**StackinGreen** · 04-21-20, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

Is there a better way of moving large amounts of money then, that I'm unaware of?

How else are you supposed to be able to take out say $5-$10k to gamble with without carrying it in your pocket? Like for example my local bank, I live in a rural area, is really mickey mouse. The atm limit is $400 per 24 hour period. So that does me no good if i have $25k in my checking and want to pull out $5k at a casino in a different state to lay on sports games and play poker. At least with these prepaid cards i can withdraw $3k at wallmart or go into a national bank like ch*se or b*am and tell them I want $5k otc withdraw. You see what I'm saying?

And about the cash seizures there are multiple states where it's a law where cops seize your cash if it's more than like $1500 or $2000. I can't remember all of them but I know KY, TN, OK and others. It's called civil asset forfeiture and it happens to anyone even people with no criminal history. It's a state by state law so it just depends on the state. Your state might not have it but some do.

Yes, these anti-freedom laws have only gotten worse and worse over time too. Just getting your own cash from banks over the years has become a dog and pony show, most will have 3k a pop, some spots at tops had 6k they wouldn't flinch (regional NE bank in a nice suburb, about 10 years ago). It's amazing the narc'ing these peons do for the powers that be too, as if anyone needs to know what I'm doing with money. Just like "structuring" ... literally a made up IRS idea so they can get you to prove that you didn't do anything wrong instead of having a legit reason or probable cause to look into you. Preposterous.

These clowns are creating the environment for btc to shine. Silly rabbits.

**DontTailMe** · 04-21-20, 06:23 PM

Anyone have any idea on what the new and improved BitPay card is all about? I already have BitPay but I've recently received emails asking me to sign up for the waitlist for a new one.

**mrpapageorgio** · 04-21-20, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

Anyone have any idea on what the new and improved BitPay card is all about? I already have BitPay but I've recently received emails asking me to sign up for the waitlist for a new one.

From the email teaser I got, it's a MasterC with chip and RFID technology. That's about the only non-vague details I can figure from it.

**EVPlus** · 04-22-20, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

From the email teaser I got, it's a MasterC with chip and RFID technology. That's about the only non-vague details I can figure from it.

That's more info than the info I got in my teaser texts. Thanks

**DontTailMe** · 04-24-20, 04:58 AM

So they're converting from V to M C? I hope they don't do away with their cash out options in the process.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-24-20, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

So they're converting from V to M C? I hope they don't do away with their cash out options in the process.

Bitpay's switching from **** to **? I hadn't heard that, but yeah, that could be bad news on the ATM front.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-24-20, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck

Bitpay's switching from **** to **? I hadn't heard that, but yeah, that could be bad news on the ATM front.

Just out of curiosity, why are V and M C censored terms?

**Optional** · 04-24-20, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck

Just out of curiosity, why are V and M C censored terms?

A lot of payment methods are censored. Historically SBR was used as a reference and timeline by US entities attacking offshores, so we tried to avoid leaving a documented history of what book used what method at what time.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-24-20, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Optional

A lot of payment methods are censored. Historically SBR was used as a reference and timeline by US entities attacking offshores, so we tried to avoid leaving a documented history of what book used what method at what time.

Ah, very wise. Thank you, my friend. As always, your post is filled with valuable information.

You don't happen to post on any other boards as "Opti," do you? I've seen him around saying some pretty bright things lately and just kind of wondered.

**mrpapageorgio** · 04-24-20, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck

Bitpay's switching from **** to **? I hadn't heard that, but yeah, that could be bad news on the ATM front.

In the email I got teasing the new card "coming soon" they had a picture of the card with the mistercard logo on it instead of viza. It also had an EMV chip and the wifi logo to indicate tap and pay.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-24-20, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

In the email I got teasing the new card "coming soon" they had a picture of the card with the mistercard logo on it instead of viza. It also had an EMV chip and the wifi logo to indicate tap and pay.

Howdy, Papa. Hmm, with payment processors so jumpy about BTC to cash transfers because of that stupid UIGEA law, any big change like that makes me a bit nervous about ATM's.

Last time Bitpay told us the blackout would be cleared up in "a matter of weeks" but it lasted, what, 8 months or something?

Fingers crossed it all works out, but if anyone needs to transfer a bunch of BTC to cash via ATM's, I wouldn't wait till the last minute.

**Optional** · 04-24-20, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck

Ah, very wise. Thank you, my friend. As always, your post is filled with valuable information.

You don't happen to post on any other boards as "Opti," do you? I've seen him around saying some pretty bright things lately and just kind of wondered.

No, not me.

**dlknfdslknfdlskn** · 04-24-20, 03:32 PM

nvm, wrong thread

**dlknfdslknfdlskn** · 04-24-20, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck

Howdy, Papa. Hmm, with payment processors so jumpy about BTC to cash transfers because of that stupid UIGEA law, any big change like that makes me a bit nervous about ATM's.

Last time Bitpay told us the blackout would be cleared up in "a matter of weeks" but it lasted, what, 8 months or something?

Fingers crossed it all works out, but if anyone needs to transfer a bunch of BTC to cash via ATM's, I wouldn't wait till the last minute.

You can always just ACH it from Bitpay to another checking account, and withdraw it that way. That's all Bitpay is anyway, a checking account with a debit card.

**DontTailMe** · 04-24-20, 04:11 PM

Yeah, it’s the cheap ACH ability that I’m concerned about losing, much more than the ATM withdrawals.

**habitualwinning** · 04-24-20, 09:02 PM

There's another crypto card comparable to Bitpay that I've found. It uses the same bank as Bitpay and has really similar fees. Instead of being a Georgia based company though, this one is based out of California. I'm thinking about getting it, if nothing else, just as a backup to bitpay should it ever go down or another atm fiasco pops up. It's called Movo. Anybody else looked into it or used it before? Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't think it's a bad idea to have more than one crypto debit card in the wallet should a problem ever arise with bitpay again in the future.

**DontTailMe** · 04-24-20, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

There's another crypto card comparable to Bitpay that I've found. It uses the same bank as Bitpay and has really similar fees. Instead of being a Georgia based company though, this one is based out of California. I'm thinking about getting it, if nothing else, just as a backup to bitpay should it ever go down or another atm fiasco pops up. It's called Movo. Anybody else looked into it or used it before? Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't think it's a bad idea to have more than one crypto debit card in the wallet should a problem ever arise with bitpay again in the future.

Interesting. I'll have to look into that.

I don't have Movo, but in addition to BitPay, I really LOVE my Crypto.com MCO **** debit card.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-24-20, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by dlknfdslknfdlskn

You can always just ACH it from Bitpay to another checking account, and withdraw it that way. That's all Bitpay is anyway, a checking account with a debit card.

Solid point. One thing worth noting though is that Bitpay, as a payment service provider, has less stringent IRS reporting requirements than traditional banks.

Since I'm guessing some folks at this website might not report every single dollar they make from sportsbooks and/or crypto on their taxes, the extra step of sending the money into the banking system could risk unwanted attention.

**MeanPeopleSuck** · 04-25-20, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

There's another crypto card comparable to Bitpay that I've found. It uses the same bank as Bitpay and has really similar fees. Instead of being a Georgia based company though, this one is based out of California. I'm thinking about getting it, if nothing else, just as a backup to bitpay should it ever go down or another atm fiasco pops up. It's called Movo. Anybody else looked into it or used it before? Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't think it's a bad idea to have more than one crypto debit card in the wallet should a problem ever arise with bitpay again in the future.

Good find. I'll check it out.

I'm also gonna tail DontTailMe on the crypto.com card.

I tried one of the European crypto cards last year that was claiming widespread acceptance here, but I must've tried 25 ATM's without success. I forget it's exact name, but it's something like Crystal or Crysteria or something. Take their hype with a grain of salt, not recommended.