94dakika is a scam (also goes by the name 90dakika)

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  • lonnie55
    SBR MVP
    • 04-08-16
    • 2689

    #71
    and PSI-Pay Ltd./Ecopayz says: "any disputes regarding your transfers to and from the merchant are under the governance of the merchant's Terms of Use, and we therefore suggest that you pursue a resolution satisfactory to you directly with the given merchant."

    The only way to achieve something against Ecopayz would be a class action in UK.

    I doubt we'll find enough victims who join in.
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61445

      #72
      Originally posted by lonnie55
      and PSI-Pay Ltd./Ecopayz says: "any disputes regarding your transfers to and from the merchant are under the governance of the merchant's Terms of Use, and we therefore suggest that you pursue a resolution satisfactory to you directly with the given merchant."

      The only way to achieve something against Ecopayz would be a class action in UK.

      I doubt we'll find enough victims who join in.
      Sounds like they are trying to say they have no responsibility to make sure their clients are legitimate.

      Not sure the UK Financial Conduct authority would agree with that interpretation by Ecopayz if so.
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      • stefan80
        SBR Hustler
        • 04-01-15
        • 82

        #73
        All the victims that have been scammed by various illegal gambling websites can be a part of class action against payment operators considering that most of the funds have been transferred using Neteller, Skrill or Ecopayz

        Extract from Skrill's Terms and Conditions:
        "11. Prohibited transactions
        11.1. It is strictly forbidden to send or receive payments as consideration for the sale or supply of: tobacco products, prescription drugs, drugs and drug paraphernalia, weapons (including without limitation, knives, guns, firearms or ammunition), satellite and cable TV descramblers, pornography, adult material, material which incites violence, hatred, racism or which is considered obscene, government IDs and licences including replicas and novelty items and any counterfeit products, unlicensed or illegal lotteries or gambling services (including without limitation the use of or participation in illegal gambling houses)...

        11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions."
        Last edited by stefan80; 11-07-17, 02:57 PM.
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        • stefan80
          SBR Hustler
          • 04-01-15
          • 82

          #74
          What results a class action may have...what happened in USA:

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          • lonnie55
            SBR MVP
            • 04-08-16
            • 2689

            #75
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            • PeterJohnson
              Restricted User
              • 10-10-17
              • 908

              #76
              Theres SOOOO many legit books why on earth people go to these books to put there money on is beyond me look at the name for christ sake 94dakika Cmon guys!

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              • PeterJohnson
                Restricted User
                • 10-10-17
                • 908

                #77
                Honestly man can you really bitch at sbr you put your money on this site look at the fkn name did you think you were getting paid out really? We like to call this is the betting world RED FLAGS!
                Originally posted by stefan80
                90dakika.com should be added to the list of rated websites with rating "F"...this way you may protect other players from becoming a victim of scams done 90dakika.com.
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                • stefan80
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 04-01-15
                  • 82

                  #78
                  When I opened the account I could not find any complaint against 90dakika...I have not said they I do not have my part of fault...this is why I think that these negative experiences should be disclosed on forums and a downgrade of such bookmakers should decrease the chances of having more and more victims...

                  To Ioannie55: the reply you have received from Public Prosecutor office is copy/past of a part of the letter they sent me...based on which I said that currently online gambling operations are not regulated in Curacao.
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                  • lonnie55
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-08-16
                    • 2689

                    #79
                    Originally posted by PeterJohnson
                    Theres SOOOO many legit books why on earth people go to these books to put there money on is beyond me look at the name for christ sake 94dakika Cmon guys!
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                    • lonnie55
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-08-16
                      • 2689

                      #80
                      Originally posted by stefan80
                      To Ioannie55: the reply you have received from Public Prosecutor office is copy/past of a part of the letter they sent me...based on which I said that currently online gambling operations are not regulated in Curacao.
                      I thought so. I was only one of 11 recipients, so just a copypasta from the PPO.

                      Did you ever contact the government of Curacao? What do they state?
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                      • PeterJohnson
                        Restricted User
                        • 10-10-17
                        • 908

                        #81
                        Originally posted by lonnie55
                        No you mean Captain OBVIOUS
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                        • stefan80
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 04-01-15
                          • 82

                          #82
                          I have sent emails to Ministry of Justice (Ministerie.Justitie@gobiernu.cw) but I have not received any reply from them...
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                          • lonnie55
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-08-16
                            • 2689

                            #83
                            Curacao is a legal black hole
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                            • slayer8888
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 05-13-18
                              • 77

                              #84
                              Curious if OP or Lonnie ever got anywhere with this? Have issues myself with Curucao licensed book and just doing some research
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                              • lonnie55
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-08-16
                                • 2689

                                #85
                                Originally posted by slayer8888
                                Curious if OP or Lonnie ever got anywhere with this? Have issues myself with Curucao licensed book and just doing some research
                                Nope, Parasino scammed the F out of me

                                But I forwarded the cases of Betlinee and Futebol Facil to a lawyer in Curacao
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                                • slayer8888
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 05-13-18
                                  • 77

                                  #86
                                  This just recently? Did the lawyer seem like he could help somehow? Upfront cost?
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                                  • lonnie55
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-08-16
                                    • 2689

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by slayer8888
                                    This just recently? Did the lawyer seem like he could help somehow? Upfront cost?
                                    a few months ago

                                    did not hear back from the lawyer yet

                                    no cure no pay basis

                                    in my specific case I don't think he can reach anything because I consider both Futebol Facil and Betlinee being criminals
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                                    • slayer8888
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 05-13-18
                                      • 77

                                      #88
                                      I see, thanks for the info and good luck
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                                      • stefan80
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 04-01-15
                                        • 82

                                        #89
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                                        Last edited by stefan80; 11-12-18, 10:04 AM.
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                                        • stefan80
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 04-01-15
                                          • 82

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by lonnie55
                                          a few months ago

                                          did not hear back from the lawyer yet

                                          no cure no pay basis

                                          in my specific case I don't think he can reach anything because I consider both Futebol Facil and Betlinee being criminals
                                          lonnie55, what is the name of your lawyer? I'm also in contact with a lawyer from Curacao.
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                                          • lonnie55
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-08-16
                                            • 2689

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by stefan80
                                            lonnie55, what is the name of your lawyer? I'm also in contact with a lawyer from Curacao.
                                            I PM'd you
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