Alliance Sportsbook closes; $80K in player balances pending

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  • Ghenghis Kahn
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #36
    in this day and age, i'd only use 3 online books, 5dimes, bovada, and heritage.
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    • thebookie
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-28-10
      • 104

      #37
      I read across the street at EOG, that some players were contacted.
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      • MRYACKLEY21
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-15-14
        • 1

        #38
        I have a 1.5k balance with alliance. I also went through Irene.. Had anyone heard from Alliance regarding payouts or have gotten any response through email?
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        • robmpink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #39
          I also saw somewhere else, the eye, from BBB, that the accounts were cherry picked through and the losers were offered bailouts. The winners weren't. That is some shady stuff.
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          • Smoke
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-09-09
            • 48111

            #40
            Originally posted by robmpink
            I also saw somewhere else, the eye, from BBB, that the accounts were cherry picked through and the losers were offered bailouts. The winners weren't. That is some shady stuff.
            This
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            • shopp
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-14-14
              • 114

              #41
              I am not sure about cherry picking accounts. I am down plenty there and have not yet been contacted. Has anyone been contacted yet? Please let us know. Thanks
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              • dark star
                SBR MVP
                • 01-04-09
                • 3900

                #42
                What a complete douche bag move.I wish nothing but the worst for these low lifes
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                • Triumph
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-18-12
                  • 1235

                  #43
                  What kind of offer did those cherry picked losers get
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                  • tboy51
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 08-01-09
                    • 50

                    #44
                    I cashed -out 5369.00 last Tuesday1/7 and they told me to call back today 1/16 for a tracking #,I guess I'm screwed.
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 51999

                      #45
                      Sucks hope u all guys get paid that are owed $.

                      Sure wouldn't hold my breathe though.

                      Damn Mickey Mouse shops!
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                      • shopp
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-14-14
                        • 114

                        #46
                        Has anyone been contacted by alliance?
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                        • Bill Dozer
                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                          • 07-12-05
                          • 10894

                          #47
                          Originally posted by paco
                          I got a voicemail asking to reload 100% free play bonus like 5 days ago

                          Oh man, is there a way I can upload that voicemail here. Unreal these books. Only 1 probably safe for Americans is 5dimes
                          https://soundcloud.com or record it on an iphone voice memo and send it in to help@sportsbookreview.com

                          Originally posted by temple2010
                          This place has been garbage since they opened- had a problem with them last year regarding a payout. Hopefully everyone gets paid but I highly doubt it.
                          Sorry to say chances of being paid are very slim. They worked forums and dont really have any customers another book would want. Only chance is that the balance is so low, although you can always double or triple the number, that a larger third party book would eat the sum as marketing cost.

                          Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

                          Do I need an invite or referral to become a customer? I wouldn't have a clue on how to find one- Google "South Florida bookie", lol? Please p.m. me if you don't want to post here in the thread.
                          Sorry, can't use PMs for business.
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                          • mtneer1212
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-08
                            • 4993

                            #48
                            The only safe books as far as I am concerned in 5dimes, Heritage, Bookmaker/DSI and YouWager. Anywhere else and you are really playing with fire.
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                            • Triumph
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-18-12
                              • 1235

                              #49
                              Alliance shouldn't beat around the bush with that horseshit message players will be paid in 45-60 days, they should be honest and say "We took your money , get over it, and don't play at shit shops any more"
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                              • crustyme
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-29-10
                                • 16896

                                #50
                                this is why i bet in vegas.

                                vegas never closes.

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                                • darkhat
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-18-10
                                  • 5722

                                  #51
                                  this is what someone was referring to about players being contacted

                                  Originally posted by boatboatboat
                                  Talked with an acquaintance in the industry this early afternoon about the Alliance sheet of players. Was hoping this person could facilitae a bailout of sorts for the book. He has participated in things of this nature in the past.

                                  Here in a nutshell is what happened as it was explained to me. I have no way to verify any of this, but am simply passing on what I was told and what I do believe has happened. I have no reason at all to doubt this is what went down.

                                  Alliance Sports book was owned by Mark XXXXXXX. It was run thru a PPH shop. They had about 80 guys and the current player balances were right at about $125k. They have about 20-25 players that generate the vast majority of the "profits" for the book. The remaining players are winners or grinders that don't add much to the bottom line.

                                  Rather than boot the winners and limit the grinders they made the choice to simply close shop.

                                  Now here is the interesting part.

                                  They are calling the 20-25 players they want to keep and putting them in this PPH skin
                                  betgoldstar.com betting line is 1-888-670-7386

                                  A lady named Irene is calling them from # 1-866-374-6874 ( quick seach I discovered that number is on this site http://www.thecostaricaconnection.com/index.html ) . She is explaining to them their accounts have been moved to betgoldstar.com and that player balance and everything has already been transferred. (an inside job)

                                  No attempts to have a bailout were ever put in motion. When ever a book in Costa Rica goes under their are the normal 5-6 suspects for facilitating a bailout. None were contacted in this case, because the book was stripped of it's winners making it a situation NO BOOK WOULD BE WILLING TO ASSUME THAT TYPE OF SHEET.

                                  Leave the profitable players intact, and the book is something someone might be willing to assume the liabilities for. But ownership made that impossible the way they went about this.

                                  The pisser is the "losers" get to keep everything and the winners and grinders get the shaft.

                                  Also as I understand it, the majority of the players there are NOT forum guys, so it is doubtful they will ever find out that some of the Cherries were plucked and put in a new shop while the rest were left to rot on the ground.

                                  So remember when a book boots a player (and of course pays them), it is often done to protect the rest of the players who play there. To bad Alliance didn't have the balls to do that, so it wouldn't have gotten to this point.
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                                  • Legions36
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-17-10
                                    • 3032

                                    #52
                                    It's funny reading some of the stories that people have to say about books they know nothing about. I'm pretty sure everyone who deposited here took at least 100% to 125% bonus, which they probably reloaded if they lost. Alliance also gave the option when u actually finished your rollover to either take a payout or they would add in another rollover with a freeplay of upto your balance which I got and im sure most got also. Sorry u guys lost out in the end and I'm pretty sure most people made out in the + here because of what they offered but it's not looking good for u and don't let it get u down or take u away from what your trying to do. These places are arb only books for bonuses and I won't even bet $1 other than that for these shops.
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                                    • shopp
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-14-14
                                      • 114

                                      #53
                                      I don't x
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                                      • shopp
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-14-14
                                        • 114

                                        #54
                                        I don't come out ahead. I lost a lot and keeping the small amount I had left and not contacting me is insult to injury.

                                        Does someone have this guy marks last name? I see it as all xxxxxx. Please pm if not comfortable sharing in public domain.
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                                        • fdsa212
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-21-09
                                          • 51

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by darkhat
                                          this is what someone was referring to about players being contacted
                                          I have to believe i was one of the 20-25 players 'feeding' the winners. I deposited $100 a week steady for years and sometimes up to $1k. They were a horrible book, posted lines only hours before contest started, had popular games on 'additional games' so that you could not parlay. horrible payouts and ridiculous rollovers.
                                          I once deposited $600 with a bonus, they said I needed to get to $15,000 to cash out, and became almost impossible to do it with shitty lines, no parlays, no futures.

                                          Irene used to call me if i wasn't depositing and offer me some BS bonus.

                                          I want to get a hold of her on the new site and start demanding huge amounts of free play.

                                          I wish there was something more that could be done here.
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                                          • 5mike5
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-21-11
                                            • 51999

                                            #56
                                            Them why the hell did u even keep playing at this book? Sure hope it wasn't for a stupid bonus. Those are a worst reason in the world to use any small time book. Just to hold ur money hostage


                                            u just said about 8 things about how shitty the book was, yet u said u deposited weekly still? Makes no sense to me. Play at shit books getting stiffed is gonna happen, just a question as to when. Never worth it
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                                            • RichardGeorge
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 04-18-10
                                              • 640

                                              #57
                                              Mark was the GM at Horizon when they got absolutely killed by me for mid 5-figures and by a huge group of Euros taking advantage of the bonyus for almost 200K.

                                              He apparently doesn't believe in limiting players as he continually let me ride my heater for 3K/bet, and they were in huge financial difficulty. No idea how they got out of that one, except Heritage bought them out at the time.
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                                              • lecubs28
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-17-11
                                                • 638

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by paco
                                                I got a voicemail asking to reload 100% free play bonus like 5 days ago

                                                Oh man, is there a way I can upload that voicemail here. Unreal these books. Only 1 probably safe for Americans is 5dimes

                                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                https://soundcloud.com or record it on an iphone voice memo and send it in to help@sportsbookreview.com
                                                yes please send it in to help@sportsbookreview.com. if they were taking in deposits after they already knew the book was deep in the red and insolvent, they should be exposed. that is the lowest thing you can do, basically is just theft and makes you a complete scumbag. something tells me once word gets out though, they'll get what's coming to them. what goes around comes around
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                                                • creed
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-08-09
                                                  • 108

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                                  Mark was the GM at Horizon when they got absolutely killed by me for mid 5-figures and by a huge group of Euros taking advantage of the bonyus for almost 200K.

                                                  He apparently doesn't believe in limiting players as he continually let me ride my heater for 3K/bet, and they were in huge financial difficulty. No idea how they got out of that one, except Heritage bought them out at the time.


                                                  Mark or whatever his name is was never a GM at Horizon. Alliance was on the same betting platform as www.wager.dm which uses Blr software.
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                                                  • RichardGeorge
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 04-18-10
                                                    • 640

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by creed
                                                    Mark or whatever his name is was never a GM at Horizon. Alliance was on the same betting platform as www.wager.dm which uses Blr software.

                                                    Umm.. wtf are you talking about? Mark was the GM like 5 years ago at Horizon before he went to Alliance. Nothing to do with the software
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                                                    • creed
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 12-08-09
                                                      • 108

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                                      Umm.. wtf are you talking about? Mark was the GM like 5 years ago at Horizon before he went to Alliance. Nothing to do with the software
                                                      1ST no need for that language. Just stating you are wrong. Mods here can verify you are wrong.
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                                                      • shopp
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-14-14
                                                        • 114

                                                        #62
                                                        They took deposits from me on the Saturday when they shut down Monday. That is a fact. What is his last name?
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                                                        • Domestic
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-10-09
                                                          • 6323

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          Another lessen for people playing at small books with zero history
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                                                          • ALLIANCESTIFF
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 01-18-14
                                                            • 26

                                                            #64
                                                            Owner Mark

                                                            My sources in Costa Rica have obtained the name of the owner Mark of alliance along with photos.

                                                            Alliance, Mark, Frank, Irene, Michelle, Jennifer, et. al - You have neglected to contact me regarding the outstanding debt as an account holder of alliance. I am giving you 24 hours notice. If I do not hear from you, I will have no choice but to post the last name of the owner Mark and pictures will be posted here around kickoff of the NE / DEN game tomorrow. I will also provide information to the other sports forums along with the local authorities and as many of your contacts as possible

                                                            I want one thing - MY money that you stole from me. Outright theft. Respond soon and then you can provide the w u or m g control numbers with MY money and this matter will be considered resolved.

                                                            In case you think I am bluffing, the Mark's last name begins with the letter somewhere between A and I.
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                                                            • boatboatboat
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-23-11
                                                              • 1148

                                                              #65
                                                              His last name starts with an F and his real first name starts with a W, but he goes by his middle name of Mark

                                                              100% confirmed.
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                                                              • Alliance
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 01-18-14
                                                                • 27

                                                                #66
                                                                alliance payouts

                                                                Alliance still has every intention to pay as they have previously stated within 45-60 days..Please again send your payout requests to service@alliancewagering.net

                                                                Each email will be answered individually. The company is in the process of reorganizing some finances .
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                                                                • Alliance
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 01-18-14
                                                                  • 27

                                                                  #67
                                                                  please private message me and I'll see what I can do to
                                                                  help you
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                                                                  • Alliance
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 01-18-14
                                                                    • 27

                                                                    #68
                                                                    alliance has every intention to pay as they stated within 45-60 days...please send your payout requests to service@alliancewagering.net, and each email will be responded to individually
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                                                                    • Alliance
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 01-18-14
                                                                      • 27

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Alliancestiff...would like to try to help you out, but don't even know who you are
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                                                                      • tboy51
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 08-01-09
                                                                        • 50

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I sent an email to alliance ,they haven't responded back to me,(al4012) terry falcon,somebody help me plese!
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