5 Dimes is being completely ridiculous

[Igetp2s]

I made a $300 deposit by Echeck right before the Superbowl to make some wagers. The deposit goes through fine and the money is in my account. A few days later I lose all the money in my account, and haven't logged into my account since.

On Friday, I get a nasty email that the Echeck bounced and that I owe them $300, and threaten that if I don't pay up they're going to send a collection agency after me. They say the only deposit options are Western Union or Moneygram. Neither of these options are convenient for me, thats why I deposited with Echeck in the first place. They refuse to allow me to make another $300 Echeck deposit to cover the first one. Finally they agree to allow me to settle up by doing an interbook transfer.

I email Matchbook to do a $300 transfer, and lo and behold I get a notice that the transfer cannot be done. 5 Dimes' policy is to only accept transfers of $500 or more. They won't allow me to settle up!

This is becoming a joke. I wouldn't normally even consider screwing anyone that I really owe money to. But their nastiness, and ridiculously limited deposit options is making this a huge hassle. And they are blaming me instead of their Echeck proccessor.

[FreeFall]

did you bounce their check for $300 on the initial deposit?

[Igetp2s]

No, the information I gave them was correct, and there was more than enough in my bank account to cover it. I have no idea why they claim it bounced. I have checked my account and indeed the $300 was never removed.

I am not disputing that I owe them the money. I find it ridiculous that they won't accept my interbook transfer. There is no legitimate reason to require interbook transfers to be $500 minimum.

They're not really in a position to dictate the terms of my payment. I could just as easily tell them to screw themselves and walk away.

[St.Aquinas]

Actually, you never know when the echeck is going to hit, so its possible money was not in your account. I'm not suggesting that happened to you, however you should send the money and make things right.
Bottom line, your deposit was screwed up and you played the money that never hit your account. As far as limited deposit methods, well...welcome to offshore betting. Tight.

[Dark Horse]

Did you talk to Tony? Just tell him that you want to pay through Matchbook, but that his system is not allowing for it. Sounds like you just ran into a standard policy that doesn't apply to this situation.

[OSUCOWBOYS]

Did you talk to Tony? Just tell him that you want to pay through Matchbook, but that his system is not allowing for it. Sounds like you just ran into a standard policy that doesn't apply to this situation.

Tony is not exactly the best as far as following up.

Tough spot to want to pay and cant.

Can you imagine the dirtbags in this world who wouldnt give a flying **** and just fade off into the sunset if they were in this guys shoes?

[krk1030]

Why not just sent a moneygram, why is that not convienent?

[SlappyWhite]

no kidding **/Moneygram is cake.

[pjesnik24]

I made a $300 deposit by Echeck right before the Superbowl to make some wagers. The deposit goes through fine and the money is in my account. A few days later I lose all the money in my account, and haven't logged into my account since.

On Friday, I get a nasty email that the Echeck bounced and that I owe them $300, and threaten that if I don't pay up they're going to send a collection agency after me. They say the only deposit options are Western Union or Moneygram. Neither of these options are convenient for me, thats why I deposited with Echeck in the first place. They refuse to allow me to make another $300 Echeck deposit to cover the first one. Finally they agree to allow me to settle up by doing an interbook transfer.

I email Matchbook to do a $300 transfer, and lo and behold I get a notice that the transfer cannot be done. 5 Dimes' policy is to only accept transfers of $500 or more. They won't allow me to settle up!

This is becoming a joke. I wouldn't normally even consider screwing anyone that I really owe money to. But their nastiness, and ridiculously limited deposit options is making this a huge hassle. And they are blaming me instead of their Echeck proccessor.

just a question, what would have happened if you won 20000 US$ and then your check bounced? Do you think they would pay you?

[losturmarbles]

this dude isnt telling the whole truth, echecks don't just bounce for no reason.

take your ass down to the mexican grocer and send a moneygram.

[Igetp2s]

Why don't I want to send a Moneygram or a Western Union? Because I don't feel like wasting a half hour of my time, waiting on line with illegal immigrants sending their money to Mexico, and getting to spend $30-$50 in fees to boot for a $300 deposit.

That doesn't compare well with clicking the "Send" button on an email for a free interbook transfer. Thats why.

Does anybody have a rational explanation for not accepting interbook transfers for any amount? There isn't any. Instead of attacking me for not being interested in **/Moneygram, how about questioning 5 Dimes' brainless "standard policy."

Every other book is scrambling to find as many deposit options as possible, making it as easy as possible to send your money. 5 Dimes is making it as difficult as possible. Makes you question their business acumen.

[Igetp2s]

Actually, you never know when the echeck is going to hit, so its possible money was not in your account. I'm not suggesting that happened to you, however you should send the money and make things right.
Bottom line, your deposit was screwed up and you played the money that never hit your account. As far as limited deposit methods, well...welcome to offshore betting. Tight.

I have had over $50k in my account throughout from well before the deposit, and continuing through now. The problem was definitely not on my end.

[losturmarbles]

Why don't I want to send a Moneygram or a Western Union? Because I don't feel like wasting a half hour of my time, waiting on line with illegal immigrants sending their money to Mexico, and getting to spend $30-$50 in fees to boot for a $300 deposit.

That doesn't compare well with clicking the "Send" button on an email for a free interbook transfer. Thats why.

Does anybody have a rational explanation for not accepting interbook transfers for any amount? There isn't any. Instead of attacking me for not being interested in **/Moneygram, how about questioning 5 Dimes' brainless "standard policy."

Every other book is scrambling to find as many deposit options as possible, making it as easy as possible to send your money. 5 Dimes is making it as difficult as possible. Makes you question their business acumen.

moneygram is $10

big deal. you bounced a check. make it right and stop crying about it.

[SlappyWhite]

If you were depositing more than a piss ass 300 bucks most books credit you the fee. Talk about a world class douche.

[TobiasFunke]

Also, 5 dimes reimburses the ** fees if the deposit is over $250, it is really very easy but good luck to you.

[Justin7]

I have had over $50k in my account throughout from well before the deposit, and continuing through now. The problem was definitely not on my end.

What is the opportunity cost of spending your time sharing this? And why are you jerking around with $300 deposits?

[pimike]

What is the opportunity cost of spending your time sharing this? And why are you jerking around with $300 deposits?

Was thinking the same thing Justin.

[Dead Money]

Not defending anyone but most books limit E-check deposits to 300 dollars till the first deposit clears and then raise limits.

This could be the case. Never know till you here both sides of the story. Anyway I would hope the would allow another e check or the 300 xfer from MB.

[bettilimbroke999]

just a question, what would have happened if you won 20000 US$ and then your check bounced? Do you think they would pay you?

Very good point, this is why Ill never deposit with eCheck, knowing my luck the bank would refuse it for gambling or something after I win a couple dimes then the book would say tough luck your screwed, meanwhile if you lose they somehow claim you owe them . Stick with moneygram/**, the books reimburse the fees anyway and ull never have a problem

[trixtrix]

just do moneygram online via debit card, i think it might not hit for a few business days as they have to make sure the card clears. but then you're not waiting to use this money immediately anyways. the deposit fee will likely be covered by 5dimes if you ask. this way it can be done in 5 min and you don't have to wait in line..

[curious]

I made a $300 deposit by Echeck right before the Superbowl to make some wagers. The deposit goes through fine and the money is in my account. A few days later I lose all the money in my account, and haven't logged into my account since.

On Friday, I get a nasty email that the Echeck bounced and that I owe them $300, and threaten that if I don't pay up they're going to send a collection agency after me. They say the only deposit options are Western Union or Moneygram. Neither of these options are convenient for me, thats why I deposited with Echeck in the first place. They refuse to allow me to make another $300 Echeck deposit to cover the first one. Finally they agree to allow me to settle up by doing an interbook transfer.

I email Matchbook to do a $300 transfer, and lo and behold I get a notice that the transfer cannot be done. 5 Dimes' policy is to only accept transfers of $500 or more. They won't allow me to settle up!

This is becoming a joke. I wouldn't normally even consider screwing anyone that I really owe money to. But their nastiness, and ridiculously limited deposit options is making this a huge hassle. And they are blaming me instead of their Echeck proccessor.

Pay the ****ing money and stop crying about it or get off the board. ****ing deadbeat.

[pjesnik24]

if it really was not your mistake do not pay them at all because you would not be paid a nickle if you won and your check bounced

[GoodOldTed]

send them $500 from Matchbook and bet the rest? This isn't rocket science...

[Igetp2s]

Sheesh the responses on this board are absolutely mind numbing. No wonder gamblers lose so much money. Completely incoherent crap being spouted.

Justin7

What is the opportunity cost of spending your time sharing this? And why are you jerking around with $300 deposits?


About 30 seconds. And because that was the limit for making an echeck deposit Saturday night before the superbowl.

Still no attempt to answer why on earth they have a minimum deposit amount for interbook transfers. It's hilarious that I'm being called a deadbeat after trying to make a deposit to fix the situation, and they rejected it! When did Orwell become a moderator here?

For the record, ** is not so simple in person by me. I don't have any Wal Marts around me, and the few other places that say they take them around me, don't actually their machine always seems to be down.

And no, I won't deposit $500 instead of $300. If they won't be even slightly flexible with their policy, that's their problem. I won't ever bet a penny there after the way I've been treated despite THEIR error. That's not rocket science.

[Igetp2s]

Pay the ****ing money and stop crying about it or get off the board. ****ing deadbeat.

Moron.

[Igetp2s]

Not defending anyone but most books limit E-check deposits to 300 dollars till the first deposit clears and then raise limits.

This could be the case. Never know till you here both sides of the story. Anyway I would hope the would allow another e check or the 300 xfer from MB.

Bingo. Finally someone that makes sense and actually took the time to think before posting. $300 limit on Echecks.

[Igetp2s]

Was thinking the same thing Justin.

Then you should probably reexamine the process by which you think.

[topgame85]

Guys trying to make it right and people harrasing him? Thats bullshit. I getp2s telll 5Dimes to go **** off their CS blows and Tony is a joke, they can't collect this debt legally and if I was you I would not settle with them if they wont take your book transfer just my opinion. I have never and will never use 5D because they are ass holes

[pjesnik24]

check this thread

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/126110-doubt-youve-heard-one-before-beted-crooks-please-help.html

if you win they do not pay but if you lose they want the money anyway.
however, the strange thing for me is that in both cases forum members blame the player and the player should pay.
I would not pay them, this was a lose/lose situation for you

[j0hnnyv]

how would a echeck bounce that never left your account? something aint stirring in the koolaid here

[SmoothMojo]

I am not sure if you had deposited money at 5Dimes in the past or if this was your first deposit. If it was youre first deposit and you live in the States, you can not use echeck as your first deposit. You have to use another option first, why I am not sure, but it is what it is. Someone mentioned moneygram online, if you really do want to pay them and make it right, you will.

[j0hnnyv]

i was gonna say i never had echeck as an option at 5dimes. i sent a moneygram. super easy and in ur acct in 15 minutes

[losturmarbles]

how would a echeck bounce that never left your account? something aint stirring in the koolaid here

how does any check bounce that never left your account?

[SmoothMojo]

Moneygram is the best way to send money. I don't like paying fees to receive money, but at least there are no paper trails.

[SlappyWhite]

dude lost and doesn't want to pay, he probably stopped the check. Degenerate POS.