Legends Sports player balances to be assumed

[spankie]

i get it.

[manny24]

i get it.

puff

spankie digitally vaporize me guey sacrifice me to the volcano carnalito!

[spankie]

puff

spankie digitally vaporize me guey sacrifice me to the volcano carnalito!

[manny24]

spankie have been in the lab working on something magnificent you would be proud

spankie come visit in the fall!

[kfranz31]

need to stay with the reputable books....

[robmpink]

need to stay with the reputable books....

Agreed, but Legendz was one now we are posting in this thread. Sad state of this industry. Stupid to keep 5 figs in any book, let alone 5k.


I just realized I said I wouldn't even read or respond to this thread anymore. The joke is on me. Don't listen to a word I say. Not that I think anyone does anyway.

[70kgman]

Update: Pending withdrawal amount from Legends that was missing from my initial Wagerweb balance has been added in there now. So don't fret, dudes. Looks like they are making good on it.

[MT2013]

It would seem spot on to raise wagerwebs rating since the reccommedation of legendz was so high.

So either they were wrong about Legendz, or wrong about wagerweb. We have one choice but to hope they were wrong about Wagerweb now.

[MT2013]

How is this guy Rob still allowed on this site? He has already admiitted to getting bonuses for kissing BI'S behind, now
if he says he didnt know, fine, but why not shut up then? Why start talking like the all mighty for every book situation there is.

Im not sure if he realizes his endorsements may have cost people alot of money. If you wanna bet go head, but leave these fine people alone

[fitguy67]

Wagerweb...hmmmm...this is the book that RobmPink, formerly the chief BI (v1.0) nut-rider at SBR has moved onto pimping for.

Whatever happened to the move to an "A" rated book with 2x rollover...

guess we didn't see the word "hole" imbedded in the fine print after the "A"...

BI v2.0 indeed!

i somehow felt the urge to run this post--originally submitted shortly after we first learned that "what we wuz promised isn't what we gots" (and even before robmpink ever entered this thread)--again!

Agree with the post right above this one...that he should follow the lead of his avatar and "stifle himself" next time he wants to chime in on any book-related issues.

[Robber]

I am in. All caps. They are doing it person by person they told me so you may not get your email at the same time. My correct balance is there. I'll let you know in 2014 when I hit the rollover.

I've just asked for the keys to the car that has no brakes.


Hello Sir,

Your account has been activated, and you are good to go. Your login and password are the same as they were at Legends.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions or contact customer service at 888 464 2387.


Thank you for choosing Wagerweb. We appreciate your business.



Sincerely,

Xavier

Escalation Manager

https://www.WagerWeb.com

1-888-464-2387

Lol at thank you for choosing wager web

[Robber]

Agreed, but Legendz was one now we are posting in this thread. Sad state of this industry. Stupid to keep 5 figs in any book, let alone 5k.


I just realized I said I wouldn't even read or respond to this thread anymore. The joke is on me. Don't listen to a word I say. Not that I think anyone does anyway.

5 figs>5k

[looneytunes]

I am in. All caps. They are doing it person by person they told me so you may not get your email at the same time. My correct balance is there. I'll let you know in 2014 when I hit the rollover.

I've just asked for the keys to the car that has no brakes.


Hello Sir,

Your account has been activated, and you are good to go. Your login and password are the same as they were at Legends.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions or contact customer service at 888 464 2387.


Thank you for choosing Wagerweb. We appreciate your business.



Sincerely,

Xavier

Escalation Manager

www.WagerWeb.com

1-888-464-2387

Escalation Management, can re-prioritize, reassign, and monitor a situation to a satisfactory completion. Think its the 1st time I've heard someone called that. Xavier might possibly be the 1st ever Escalation Manager in all central America. Damn thats impressive

[adamg30]

Already been limited to $250 bets per market. At least I dont have $20000 to rollover. Oh...

Pathetic

[Scorpion]

Already been limited to $250 bets per market. At least I dont have $20000 to rollover. Oh...

Pathetic

thats not good, that means many posters will never meet the roll over req, if they want to limit people then there should be no roll over req

i agree, thats fuking pathetic

[Scorpion]

Already been limited to $250 bets per market. At least I dont have $20000 to rollover. Oh...

Pathetic

soon they may limit you to $10, nice way of keeping/stealing your money

[yisman]

so they don't make a feed available to line services and they don't let you view lines without logging in? Is there a way of looking at the lines without having an account?

[robmpink]

How is this guy Rob still allowed on this site? He has already admiitted to getting bonuses for kissing BI'S behind, now
if he says he didnt know, fine, but why not shut up then? Why start talking like the all mighty for every book situation there is.

Im not sure if he realizes his endorsements may have cost people alot of money. If you wanna bet go head, but leave these fine people alone

Let me answer your inquiry Mr. Puss ghost. I received deposit bonuses from BI. Probably the same most squares got.I didn't make up one story about BI. They treated me well so I backed them up in threads. Coincidentally, the only two books that I've defended were BI and WW . I've commented on WW for 7 or so years. People know this. Do you think there could be a chance I really liked these 2 books? So no puss ghost I don't make every book situation my business.

I'm sure I don't sway people to play anywhere and to be quite frank I don't give a crap if people play at the books I like. I don't benefit from it. Lastly, you fool, by me endorsing WW for the last 7 years has what bearing on these people who got f'd by Legendz? The accounts were transferred over. No deposit. SO whether I say good or bad they have to roll shit over to withdraw.

Yeah, my endorsements cost people money. Go f yourself.

[robmpink]

i somehow felt the urge to run this post--originally submitted shortly after we first learned that "what we wuz promised isn't what we gots" (and even before robmpink ever entered this thread)--again!

Agree with the post right above this one...that he should follow the lead of his avatar and "stifle himself" next time he wants to chime in on any book-related issues.

Geez, hard feelings? Are you scared some of the jibber jabber I've posted over the years may hold some validity with WW? I guess time will tell. Don't be scared.

Oh, once again, balances were transferred. What solicitation am I doing? Maybe you are interested in gay club kids.

[fitguy67]

so they don't make a feed available to line services and they don't let you view lines without logging in? Is there a way of looking at the lines without having an account?

this is what's going to make even a small RO painful here...dreadfully more inconvenient than it need be...

SBR could play a role in the improvement of this:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2310120-idea-practical-gesture-sbr-ww-newly-created-rollover-refugees.html

[Scorpion]

penetrate LEGENDS, STUPID MOTHERFUKERS

[rcene]

penetrate LEGENDS, STUPID MOTHERFUKERS

Not been very smooth at all

[teaz2win]

soon they may limit you to $10, nice way of keeping/stealing your money

I'm not limited at all. I have the same limits. Now there are somethings wagerweb wont do that i had at legends like a dime line in baseball, but not limited in the bets i can place.

[MBENZ]

I'm not limited at all. I have the same limits. Now there are somethings wagerweb wont do that i had at legends like a dime line in baseball, but not limited in the bets i can place.

How did you get a dimeline at Legends when they've never had it?

[teaz2win]

How did you get a dimeline at Legends when they've never had it?

Not true They did have it.

[FreeFall]

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Consider BetIslands as your first thing.

[MT2013]

Let me answer your inquiry Mr. Puss ghost. I received deposit bonuses from BI. Probably the same most squares got.I didn't make up one story about BI. They treated me well so I backed them up in threads. Coincidentally, the only two books that I've defended were BI and WW . I've commented on WW for 7 or so years. People know this. Do you think there could be a chance I really liked these 2 books? So no puss ghost I don't make every book situation my business.

I'm sure I don't sway people to play anywhere and to be quite frank I don't give a crap if people play at the books I like. I don't benefit from it. Lastly, you fool, by me endorsing WW for the last 7 years has what bearing on these people who got f'd by Legendz? The accounts were transferred over. No deposit. SO whether I say good or bad they have to roll shit over to withdraw.

Yeah, my endorsements cost people money. Go f yourself.

But people want to express their concerns and feelings about a book, and you never let them. You show up in threads trying to pretend to be the voice of reason, but you really have a biasedness towards one or other books.

Let people have their say without arguing with them

[robmpink]

But people want to express their concerns and feelings about a book, and you never let them. You show up in threads trying to pretend to be the voice of reason, but you really have a biasedness towards one or other books.

Let people have their say without arguing with them

Mt, you seem to be less aggressive with this reply. I haven't argued with many people about this. Its not like I clowned every person or even 1/8th of the people who dislike WW. I apologize if the only two book situations you recall is BI and WW, which I was and am a supporter. I do appreciate your 3 posts here being directly linked to me.

[robmpink]

SO there has been some feedback about people being limited, etc. Does anyone have any good feedback? Or shall I say does anyone have the courage to comment on how things are going so far?

[DirkDiggs]

I can take some of the blame for my situation here. I only used Legends at football season. In hindsight, it was stupid of me to leave my balance in there in the offseason, given that their baseball lines sucked.

But, I do have to say Sports Book Review is on record as shills for the industry, fukking players for a little bit of cash. Nothing but a whore. Thanks for advocating for the players interest!

[fitguy67]

SO there has been some feedback about people being limited, etc. Does anyone have any good feedback? Or shall I say does anyone have the courage to comment on how things are going so far?

to be honest, Rob, ANY additional book is an asset as long as 1) they pay (which it seems they do)...AND...
they list their lines on an odds-comparison hub such as http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/ (which it seems they WON'T)...

they--just like BetRev--have a business model centred on attracting peoples's $ with the lure of large $-matching &/or free-play bonuses...which lock the player into large ROR...then holding the player "captive" to their (generally-crappy vs. 10-cent books like 5dimes) lines...

the simple act of cooperating with a price-comparison hub would allow the smart player to relax and whittle down the ROR one or two value plays at a time (cuz a book with 20-cent GENERALLY-crappy odds will usually have at least one or two good SPECIFIC "sore thumb" price every day)...

conversely, books that don't cooperate with hubs, don't want smart line-shopping players carefully and methodically whittling down their ROR...they want the player basically imprisoned to their lines...repeatedly taking sub-optimal odds to just "clear the damn ROR"...

Legends prices were generally crappy...but because they were always easily veiwable and comparable with other books a player might have...i found myself hitting them for about 5 plays a week...I didn't have to chain myself to their site to do so...just notice a bargain on the hub...clikked the top of the column (which brings me to book i want WHEN i want it)...then put on my play at the price I WANT...then out again and back to the hub to to hunt down the best value on the next play I'm interested in...

Good books aren't afraid to have their lines compared side-by-side with others

WW inherited the account balances of Legends...how about they also inherit their "column" on SBR "live odds"...

This would move this book, in my estimation...from use-LESS to use-FUL

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You asked for specific constructive commentary about WW...I think the above qualifies

[robmpink]

to be honest, Rob, ANY additional book is an asset as long as 1) they pay (which it seems they do)...AND...
they list their lines on an odds-comparison hub such as http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/ (which it seems they WON'T)...

they--just like BetRev--have a business model centred on attracting peoples's $ with the lure of large $-matching &/or free-play bonuses...which lock the player into large ROR...then holding the player "captive" to their (generally-crappy vs. 10-cent books like 5dimes) lines...

the simple act of cooperating with a price-comparison hub would allow the smart player to relax and whittle down the ROR one or two value plays at a time (cuz a book with 20-cent GENERALLY-crappy odds will usually have at least one or two good SPECIFIC "sore thumb" price every day)...

conversely, books that don't cooperate with hubs, don't want smart line-shopping players carefully and methodically whittling down their ROR...they want the player basically imprisoned to their lines...repeatedly taking sub-optimal odds to just "clear the damn ROR"...

Legends prices were generally crappy...but because they were always easily veiwable and comparable with other books a player might have...i found myself hitting them for about 5 plays a week...I didn't have to chain myself to their site to do so...just notice a bargain on the hub...clikked the top of the column (which brings me to book i want WHEN i want it)...then put on my play at the price I WANT...then out again and back to the hub to to hunt down the best value on the next play I'm interested in...

Good books aren't afraid to have their lines compared side-by-side with others

WW inherited the account balances of Legends...how about they also inherit their "column" on SBR "live odds"...

This would move this book, in my estimation...from use-LESS to use-FUL

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You asked for specific constructive commentary about WW...I think the above qualifies

Fit, you for one seem to be confused with me. Never once did I say WW has great odds. I've gone harsh insult to harsh insult with posters here about WW. I'm not trying to persuade anyone from what they do. Just trying to see what experiences people have had since this event. Even if there is 100% negative feedback I'll still play there. Just curious if some people feel differently to the majority neg feedback over the years.

[fitguy67]

Fit, you for one seem to be confused with me. Never once did I say WW has great odds. I've gone harsh insult to harsh insult with posters here about WW. I'm not trying to persuade anyone from what they do. Just trying to see what experiences people have had since this event. Even if there is 100% negative feedback I'll still play there. Just curious if some people feel differently to the majority neg feedback over the years.

I was confused...thought u wanted to encourage honest commentary...

but it's clear u'r looking for fellow-cheerleaders

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BTW, there's nothing wrong with their odds per se (pretty-well all books start with the same opener-set and diverge from their as their differing supply-demand and risk-exposure situations kick in)...as long as WW adheres to a reasonable and consistently-applied vig-structure (eg. 20 cents to 140, 15 cents to 180...etc. etc..) and it appears that they do...

The problem with WW's odds lies in the fact that they aren't readily viewable-comparable to other books' offerings from OUTSIDE the site...essentially trapping their players into a myopic dependence on their prices exclusively)...

I'm quite happy to stray from the top-tier rated books...as long as they pay AND make their lines available to me outside their site (of the sort of big-bonus books that fascinate you most: ...JustBet/Guardian and LooseLines are non-A'ers that make ok additional books in this regard...while BetRev and WagerWeb do NOT)

[robmpink]

I was confused...thought u wanted to encourage honest commentary...

but it's clear u'r looking for fellow-cheerleaders

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BTW, there's nothing wrong with their odds (pretty-well all books start with the same opener-set and diverge from their as their differing supply-demand and risk-exposure situations kick in)...as long as WW adheres to a reasonable and consistently-applied vig-structure (eg. 20 cents to 140, 15 cents to 180...etc. etc..) and it appears that they do...

The problem with WW's odds is that they aren't readily viewable-comparable to other books' offerings from OUTSIDE the site...essentially trapping their players into a myopic dependence on their prices exclusively)

I do want honest commentary. Do you play there now because of the Legendz fiasco?

[fitguy67]

yes...legends was one of many books (each modestly funded to support a few units of action...withdrawing/reloading as appropriate) in my stable...

i'd honestly LIKE to play at WW, but really can't because NOT having it plug into the same price-comparison hub as the rest of my books sufficiently "cramps my style"...even having a ROR imposed on me by what happened would be fine if I could just see WW's price at the same time I see my other books' prices...having to pay a "special visit" to a book that's off-hub makes it use-less to ME=
a multi-book line-shopping addict...

however, to the vast majority of one-book-at-a-time SBR players it seems that WW is probably as good as many other standard-pricing (20-cent in the 100 to 150 range etc.) books...
and for those who like large % bonuses (and don't mind being forced to make all their required purchases at their one shop)...I suppose I'd consider it right along with BetRev and all the other less-than-A-rated books the amazing "touchback" covers in post #4 here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2112210-best-shops-bonuses.html

if the bastids at SBR and WW would just get WW's lines onto "live odds" i'd happily start whittling my involuntarily-imposed ROR down one nice "sore thumb" line at a time...till that happens, tho'...i'd rather just bitch about things