Legends Sports player balances to be assumed

**Microphone** · 04-21-13, 11:41 AM

**shari91** · 04-21-13, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by DrStale

Ha, I guess writing up what happened is better than nothing at all, but there's nothing in there posters don't already know. I get that you work for SBR and you have to back them up but the bottom line is that posters are getting screwed for the second time this year by a sportsbook heavily promoted by SBR and the response is effectively "sucks to be you"

I don't think that's fair. I don't think anyone said it sucks to be you and that has nothing to do with whether I work here or not. Legends was a great book. Again there were no payout problems even after they were indicted up until they had their licence revoked. As I said in another thread there was absolutely zero benefit to be had by Legends or even SBR (if you're one of those who thinks it's SBR's fault) to tell people the bailout would be coming from an A book with 2x rollover if 2 days later an email would be sent out saying differently. Like I mentioned in that other thread, when I went to bed and Admin was logging off for the night our biggest concern was that the 48hr deadline was approaching and we were hoping that it wasn't typical CR slow moving stuff because we knew people would be understandably concerned if the deadline blew out by even one day. When I woke up I checked this thread as it was near the top of view new posts, saw Kraken's question to me and then moved a page back. That's the first I heard of Wagerweb involved in this as I didn't receive the 2nd email and by fluke I found out before SBR bigwigs did. I wouldn't want my money in Wagerweb after trixtrix's problems but then I see other people like robmpink and stevex who are happy there so I can't use what I feel ok with as a barometer for anyone else. If it were me I'd be upset and pissed off because my hopes had been raised after that first email that this wasn't going to be like the majority of other bailouts. But then I guess I'd be thankful my cash was still alive so I'd do my research and decide what I felt comfortable with ie staying there or not. I'd personally be doing my best to clear the rollover and gtfo but I've said a million times my risk tolerance is slim to none so I'm not the best example to use.

**robmpink** · 04-21-13, 12:04 PM

Now if ww wasn't in the picture would there have been any bail out at all for the players?

**BigDeem5** · 04-21-13, 12:06 PM

Shari not a fan of indenting/paragraphs.. obviously an Aussie thing

**Microphone** · 04-21-13, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by shari91

I'd personally be doing my best to clear the rollover and gtfo but I've said a million times my risk tolerance is slim to none so I'm not the best example to use.

Hi Shari,
But using my example, anyone who has a decent sized balance in WW, if you actually were successful in flopping a couple grand, don't you think you'd be a great risk as being labeled a pro and having you funds seized. Their whole mission of trying to help (10x helping?) and then being so strict contradicts itself.

**RonPaul2008** · 04-21-13, 12:11 PM

I agree with others on the worry that large balances will automatically be labeled pro if they get through the rollover with a large balance intact and want to withdraw. Also, there is the worry about limits for those with large balances.

**shari91** · 04-21-13, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

Shari not a fan of indenting/paragraphs.. obviously an Aussie thing

On iPad in bed. Lucky I can even figure out how to post at this point. No way I'll even try to church it up. xo

**Steroids#1** · 04-21-13, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by davidchong

Only apply for post up accounts.

What are post up accounts?

**shari91** · 04-21-13, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Microphone

Hi Shari,
But using my example, anyone who has a decent sized balance in WW, if you actually were successful in flopping a couple grand, don't you think you'd be a great risk as being labeled a pro and having you funds seized. Their whole mission of trying to help (10x helping?) and then being so strict contradicts itself.

I haven't talked to anyone from SBR yet about this so this is me just trying to be logical as best I can. There's a reason that initial deal fell through. My guess is because when the A book actually looked at the current people on Legends' sheet, most would have already been at their book. Remember, Legends was not even close to just being an SBR book. I'll cop that a bit for BI even though they were getting clients everywhere but Legends was a huge book that was much bigger than SBR. Their credit side alone would dwarf most books and obviously we don't deal with credit. So even though the arrangement was in place that this was Legends' contingency plan and the agreement had been made, when you get to books near the top of the heap (well rated at SBR or not) people cross over to all of them. Whatever it is I have no clue yet so again THIS IS JUST ME SPECULATING.

(trying to do a paragraph break for Deemer) However the one bright side of all of this - which I realise is of little consolation but trying to think positively - is that everyone and their dog knew of that initial email that went out. So when Wagerweb agreed to assume these accounts they knew what they were getting. If someone like you for example who has a pretty normal sized balance is all of a sudden labelled a pro simply because you're trying to clear off the rollover, that would be the worst PR imaginable. Even people who love that book couldn't stick up for that behaviour. I do trust they'll allow you to play through. There is absolutely zero excuse possible for them not to allow it other than the obvious stuff that would stick you at any other book ie trying to take shots, multi accounting, etc.

**Steroids#1** · 04-21-13, 12:31 PM

For those that's interested I'm already playing on WagerWeb with the money from my Legends account

**Like A Boss** · 04-21-13, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Steroids#1

For those that's interested I'm already playing on WagerWeb with the money from my Legends account

Still can't get in. Is all the login info the same?

**Steroids#1** · 04-21-13, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Like A Boss

Still can't get in. Is all the login info the same?

Call and ask for Marcel and tell him your situation and he will situate you....

**Like A Boss** · 04-21-13, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Steroids#1

Call and ask for Marcel and tell him your situation and he will situate you....

Thanks, but I just got off of live chat about 10 minutes ago and I am now situated. The guy told the IT dept. about the problem and told me to wait 10 minutes to try again.

**robmpink** · 04-21-13, 01:13 PM

What were the limits at Legendz?

**cali man** · 04-21-13, 01:25 PM

BAD NEWS. Just talked to WW and was told that they were not going to honor any b***** **** amount from legends. They said we would have to work out with legends. I asked them for a contact number or email for legends and they said they were not partner with them so no contact info.....u can tell already what kind of book we are dealing with here. For those with ********* from legends, you can kiss your money goodbye.....I am losing $4000 here!!!

**Mikeyanks23** · 04-21-13, 01:31 PM

what a joke.

hope you get this situated

**robmpink** · 04-21-13, 01:35 PM

Possibly Legendz never told them about {bad payouts**. Do you think it is fair that they cover them if it wasn't part of the deal?

**Smoke** · 04-21-13, 01:36 PM

Mikeyanks nice red ball

**robmpink** · 04-21-13, 01:37 PM

Anyway he offered feedback and that is important. Negative and positive. Hopefully you could get it situated with Legendz and get it transferred to WW or something. I hope you get it worked out as well.

**cali man** · 04-21-13, 01:39 PM

But, sandy at WW told me that they were going to honor those ****** **** yesterday and they changed their mind now. What a d or f grade sportsbook. Good luck to you all!!

**darkhat** · 04-21-13, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Mikeyanks23

what a joke.

hope you get this situated

fandango

**rcene** · 04-21-13, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by cali man

BAD NEWS. Just talked to WW and was told that they were not going to honor any bounced checks amount from legends. They said we would have to work out with legends. I asked them for a contact number or email for legends and they said they were not partner with them so no contact info.....u can tell already what kind of book we are dealing with here. For those with bounced checks from legends, you can kiss your money goodbye.....I am losing $4000 here!!!

Are you serious dude? Who told you that at ww?

**KGambler** · 04-21-13, 01:42 PM

1. I can't log in to wagerweb with my Legends info

2. I still haven't gotten an email.

3. I have 2 outstanding checks from Legends and I don't know if that is going to show up in my WW balance. Not bounced checks, just checks that were requested but apparently never sent. Anyone know?

I will contact WW CS when I get a chance.

**Mikeyanks23** · 04-21-13, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Mikeyanks nice red ball

nice lion

**70kgman** · 04-21-13, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by cali man

BAD NEWS. Just talked to WW and was told that they were not going to honor any bounced checks amount from legends. They said we would have to work out with legends. I asked them for a contact number or email for legends and they said they were not partner with them so no contact info.....u can tell already what kind of book we are dealing with here. For those with bounced checks from legends, you can kiss your money goodbye.....I am losing $4000 here!!!

I am in the same situation. Here is what they told me in live chat...

L I was one of the Legends customers transferred to this book. The day before Legends closed shop, I had made a $1500 withdrawal, which was obviously never sent by Legends. But that $1500 is missing from my balance. How can this be resolved?

dave has joined the chat.
dave (02:40:08) : one moment
dave (02:41:03) : i will give our manage ment you account info and they will work with legends to resolve it on monday ot tuesday
dave (02:41:16) : may i have your account number
L (02:45:30) : XXXXXXX

dave (02:42:12) : what is your phone numkber
L (02:46:25) : xxx-xxx-xxxx

dave (02:43:23) : they will be ontouch around tuesday, if you dont hear from by wed morning check back in with us
L (02:48:10) : thanks

dave (02:44:23) : no problem

**cali man** · 04-21-13, 01:52 PM

70kgman - thx.. pls keep us posted.

**cali man** · 04-21-13, 02:35 PM

UPDATE - bounced checks or unsettled payouts

Bob (02:27:10) : sir, the only thing I can tell you in this case is to try to contact legends
Bob (02:27:17) : we have nothing to do with that.
xxxxxx (02:31:38) : i heard your management would work with legends on this next week, not true??

Bob (02:28:51) : We did not buy the book, any arrangement you had going on with legends has nothing to do with us.
Bob (02:29:30) : any new buisness will now be with us but anything pending, is directly with legends

**slash** · 04-21-13, 03:10 PM

All the positive publicity WW could have gotten here will disappear if they don't honor pending payouts and bounced checks.

**70kgman** · 04-21-13, 03:11 PM

I am sure glad I got Dave instead of Bob.

**seaborneq** · 04-21-13, 03:14 PM

Thread title should have been "legends players balances to be consumed."

**robmpink** · 04-21-13, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by slash

All the positive publicity WW could have gotten here will disappear if they don't honor pending payouts and bounced checks.

If it wasn't part of the deal it wasn't part of the deal. I don't know piss about the deal but wtf would you take on masked expenses if it wasn't identified by Legendz in the deal? Be pissed at Legendz.

Hopefully it gets worked out.

**adamg30** · 04-21-13, 04:02 PM

Just checked with CS and they have no idea about GBP accounts. So looks like I now have $4000 virtual dollars instead of £4000(around $6100)

**5mike5** · 04-21-13, 04:19 PM

the wagerweb BS starts b4 the balances are even there..the terrible lines they offer maybe the least of the problems...hope it works out 4 everybody

**cali man** · 04-21-13, 04:25 PM

i was told they would not honor ******* or unsettled payouts with no exception doesn;t matter who you have talked to dave, bob or even god!!!!!!! f grade sportsbook!

**MBENZ** · 04-21-13, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

If it wasn't part of the deal it wasn't part of the deal. I don't know piss about the deal but wtf would you take on masked expenses if it wasn't identified by Legendz in the deal? Be pissed at Legendz.

Hopefully it gets worked out.

Aren't you one of the guys covering up Jons shitstained drawers until it was too late?Don't tell these guys that have money out there about how deals work.Best to STFU when it isn't your money.