Has everyone given up hope on a Betislands bailout?

[HedgeHog]

I think we will know something in a few days. There are only a couple big enough to make this happen. If a deal does go down those that have an account at the acquiring book will get the same deal as everyone.

You sicken me-- a feeling shared by most every other poster that has been here over the years. You hide in your bunker after the SBR-created BI bust and let Bill Dozer do damage control. Now you're trying to peddle false hope to posters on Christmas Eve, for a situation you know is long over. What's the end game now--to say how hard you tried to save us but to no avail. Fuk you, end the BS. You made out like a bandit (actually bandit's accomplice), and now you're our potential hero? Did I say Fuk you, if so it bears repeating.

When I play with lesser Books like EZ, Americas Book, Alliance--it's on me if I lose money (funny thing is I didn't!). But when lesser Books like BetIslands and Betonline get to hang a banner here and get a ficticious B rating or better, it's on you. After all, you're the one collecting huge on these lies. By the way, I've always wondered what plunging stock was displayed in the graph of your avatar. I finally figured it out--it's SBR's credibilty that's being shown, because very few things drop that fast.

Merry Christmas, you fukkin thief.

[bettilimbroke999]

BetIslands ruined alot of Christmases

[senseionline]

BetIslands ruined alot of Christmases

so does sbr

[bettilimbroke999]

so does sbr

SBR did their best...they just thought SSLP had millions of dollars given the amount of money hed spent on tattoos

[bobbywaves]

[LordVodka]

I am way behind on this but who is SSLP and Taxer?

[Easy-Rider 66]

I am way behind on this but who is SSLP and Taxer?

Word on the street is that was JON from BI.

[JasonDC]

I am way behind on this but who is SSLP and Taxer?

SSLP was the name that betislands 'owner' Jon Kreta used when he posted in the forums at SBR.

[bobbywaves]

I am way behind on this but who is SSLP and Taxer?

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2085694-jon-taxer-sslp.html

[Kaps]

You sicken me-- a feeling shared by most every other poster that has been here over the years. You hide in your bunker after the SBR-created BI bust and let Bill Dozer do damage control. Now you're trying to peddle false hope to posters on Christmas Eve, for a situation you know is long over. What's the end game now--to say how hard you tried to save us but to no avail. Fuk you, end the BS. You made out like a bandit (actually bandit's accomplice), and now you're our potential hero? Did I say Fuk you, if so it bears repeating.

When I play with lesser Books like EZ, Americas Book, Alliance--it's on me if I lose money (funny thing is I didn't!). But when lesser Books like BetIslands and Betonline get to hang a banner here and get a ficticious B rating or better, it's on you. After all, you're the one collecting huge on these lies. By the way, I've always wondered what plunging stock was displayed in the graph of your avatar. I finally figured it out--it's SBR's credibilty that's being shown, because very few things drop that fast.

Merry Christmas, you fukkin thief.

great reply hedge hog ...couldnt have said it better myself

[15805]

I think a major deep pockets sportsbook of long standing would consider this a viable
business decision:

Bail out all players with less than 5000 available in a BI account with 25% of their balance, with a 15X rollover. For me that would be 25% of approximately 1600 or
$400 & a 6000 rollover.

If BI owed 1,500,000 & say about 700,000 was owed to those with less than 5000
they would only be taking a hit of 175,000 instead of 1,500,000. They would be buffering up the rep of offshore and for a top book the hit may not be crippling.

About 10 years ago I had about 2400 in Camelot when they went under Olympic pick up all bettors with over 2000 in their Camelot account, whether they had 50,000 or like me 2400 so I got back 83% of my Camelot moneys. If a player had say 20,000 in Camelot he only got back 10%, but I'm sure they took it 10% is better than nothing, 2000 is better than zero. I forgot the rollover I was required to bet but
once I got to Olympic best book ever I bet the rollover in less thaan a month!

[bettilimbroke999]

It sounds like BI got alot of sharp action and didnt know how to deal with it which leads to the old expression:

If you lose you have already sent in your money and the bookie shoves it down a hookers pants in Costa Rica

If your bookie loses you have already sent in your money and the bookie shoves it down a hookers pants in Costa Rica

[Hankwins]

my former account manger at betphoniex apparently stole account info and solicted me to deposit in his book g lo bal w a gering, he was super chatty know it all. he asked me where a played, i and i said bet islands, he said jon little guy with a bunch of tatoo's and it was a house of cards ready to crumble. this was 6 months ago. he also said jon is not the owner and thought he had about a 20% stake in the company. I played betislands and always hit and ran. I guess i should give garret michaels credit for calling this.

[horja1]

When I play with lesser Books like EZ, Americas Book, Alliance--it's on me if I lose money (funny thing is I didn't!). But when lesser Books like BetIslands and Betonline get to hang a banner here and get a ficticious B rating or better, it's on you. After all, you're the one collecting huge on these lies. By the way, I've always wondered what plunging stock was displayed in the graph of your avatar. I finally figured it out--it's SBR's credibilty that's being shown, because very few things drop that fast.

Damn ... I guess you really did not like BI before ... oh, wait ... You actually liked the "lesser like BetIslands" ... just check you post history for the last 3-4 months and count how many times you recommended/voted (August poll)/defended/praised BI ...

[HedgeHog]

Damn ... I guess you really did not like BI before ... oh, wait ... You actually liked the "lesser like BetIslands" ... just check you post history for the last 3-4 months and count how many times you recommended/voted (August poll)/defended/praised BI ...

I guess you missed the point. Everything I knew about BI came from this forum so naturally my previous positive posts, as well as those of many others, reflected the BS that we were fed here. I trusted the Mods that said this Book had solid financial backing and SBR's B rating of this Book. Obviously that trust was misplaced.

[horja1]

I guess you missed the point. Everything I knew about BI came from this forum so naturally my previous positive posts, as well as those of many others, reflected the BS that we were fed here. I trusted the Mods that said this Book had solid financial backing and SBR's B rating of this Book. Obviously that trust was misplaced.

ofc ... you blame the forum ... but you are part of this forum, and some of your posts were coming from your personal experience with BI, partially confirming others and SBR's opinion on BI ... I have nothing against people who mentioned their doubts or least didn't say anything about BI before and now complain about BI, because they have the right to do so, but it looks a little weird to see that you and others who praised BI are so outraged now about the "lesser like Betislands" ...

[CollegePro]

this whole bail out thing does not look good.

cheers

[JasonDC]

this whole bail out thing does not look good.

cheers

Yesterday you seemed optimistic..what happened between yesterday and today to make you think it doesn't look good?

[CollegePro]

cuz.. seems like book i was talking with does not seem much interested anymore..i don't know what changed them all of sudden

[JasonDC]

cuz.. seems like book i was talking with does not seem much interested anymore..i don't know what changed them all of sudden

Thats going to suck if nothing comes out of this bailout talk..not totally unexpected though..guess we just have to wait and see what the SBR people have to say.

[bettilimbroke999]

cuz.. seems like book i was talking with does not seem much interested anymore..i don't know what changed them all of sudden

There will be no bailout because this is a completely SBR referred book and the A rated books already have all the SBR gamblers on their roles...probably 95% of BetIslands customers already have an account at any A rated book looking to bail them out...if everyones already got an account why the hell would they bail them out to try to get their business?

From the books perspective it would be a complete waste of money

[gangeriver]

just curious when happend a bailout last time and by which book offered?

[JasonDC]

There will be no bailout because this is a completely SBR referred book and the A rated books already have all the SBR gamblers on their roles...probably 95% of BetIslands customers already have an account at any A rated book looking to bail them out...if everyones already got an account why the hell would they bail them out to try to get their business?

From the books perspective it would be a complete waste of money

Supposedly they were having meetings about it yesterday so there had to be other reasons they might consider it..maybe to keep the people who got stiffed from stopping playing offshore..if there is no bailout i will never send money again offshore and i dont think im alone..i do this for fun and having money stolen from me takes all the fun away and totally changed the way i look at offshore betting.

[bettilimbroke999]

Supposedly they were having meetings about it yesterday so there had to be other reasons they might consider it..maybe to keep the people who got stiffed from stopping playing offshore..if there is no bailout i will never send money again offshore and i dont think im alone..i do this for fun and having money stolen from me takes all the fun away and totally changed the way i look at offshore betting.

IF there is any kind of a bailout and just for the record I think theres nearly no chance there will be but IF there is then it will come from another dumpy book like BetPhoenix but not a top book. No top book will do shit bc having scambooks like BetIslands rape ppl actually gets more ppl to play with A rated books anyway, maybe in the meetings the top books took a look at their database to see how many NEW players they would be getting in a bailout and after realizing they already had 95% of em said penetrate this...a crappy C rated book with a lower % of BI players might be willing to do something for the new accounts but its very doubtful

Most of these shitty C books and lower already offer 100% freeplays so bailing BetIslands out with a 100% freeplay offer would be pointless

[JasonDC]

IF there is any kind of a bailout and just for the record I think theres nearly no chance there will be but IF there is then it will come from another dumpy book like BetPhoenix but not a top book. No top book will do shit bc having scambooks like BetIslands rape ppl actually gets more ppl to play with A rated books anyway, maybe in the meetings the top books took a look at their database to see how many NEW players they would be getting in a bailout and after realizing they already had 95% of em said penetrate this...a crappy C rated book might be willing to do something for the new account idk

I dont give a fukk if they are rated Z- if they can do some kind of bailout..i want see some of that $6,521 that was stolen from me. I dont think SBR would risk a bailout for their people from another book they didnt trust would pay their people, they dont want to go thru this all over again..you could very well be right that every Abook will take a pass..i was just told there were meetings so i will wait and see what happens with that. Youwager and 5dimes both have got a lot of money from me in the past, if there is no bailout they will never get another deposit from me ever, it would be in their best interest to give me some bailout offer and i have a feeling there will be plenty of people who will stop playing offshore after this.

[eastern2]

I dont give a fukk if they are rated Z- if they can do some kind of bailout..i want see some of that $6,521 that was stolen from me. I dont think SBR would risk a bailout for their people from another book they didnt trust would pay their people, they dont want to go thru this all over again..you could very well be right that every Abook will take a pass..i was just told there were meetings so i will wait and see what happens with that. Youwager and 5dimes both have got a lot of money from me in the past, if there is no bailout they will never get another deposit from me ever, it would be in their best interest to give me some bailout offer and i have a feeling there will be plenty of people who will stop playing offshore after this.

I concur - at this point I'm done with offshore after this bet islands debacle and will just go with a local

[goombah]

There will be no bailout because this is a completely SBR referred book and the A rated books already have all the SBR gamblers on their roles...probably 95% of BetIslands customers already have an account at any A rated book looking to bail them out...if everyones already got an account why the hell would they bail them out to try to get their business?

From the books perspective it would be a complete waste of money

I disagree there is no value from an A book to bail everyone out. If you consider SBR as the industry leader in evaluating sportsbooks, there is a tonne of goodwill to be generated by bailing out BI users. If you look at how many nut lickers there were with BI, I cant even imagine how much nut sucking there will be with any white knights. The goodwill will far surpass any investment they might have to put with a bailout imo.





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[goombah]

I also agree with some of the comments that this robbery has taken alot of the joy out of sports betting offshore and especially during xmas time. I will look to pull out as well.

[MBENZ]

I dont give a fukk if they are rated Z- if they can do some kind of bailout..i want see some of that $6,521 that was stolen from me. I dont think SBR would risk a bailout for their people from another book they didnt trust would pay their people, they dont want to go thru this all over again..you could very well be right that every Abook will take a pass..i was just told there were meetings so i will wait and see what happens with that. Youwager and 5dimes both have got a lot of money from me in the past, if there is no bailout they will never get another deposit from me ever, it would be in their best interest to give me some bailout offer and i have a feeling there will be plenty of people who will stop playing offshore after this.

WTF are you waiting for them for?Do your own work if you want to get something done.Alliance sports has called me several times in relation to this.I don't know shitt about them but if you don't care if they're z-rated,pick up the phone.Another shot might be Betphoenix,they bailed some from bet911.When I lost my ass at BOS I didn't wait for some site with an affiliate deal to bail my ass,I did my own work and got a partial from Betjam.GL

[JasonDC]

WTF are you waiting for them for?Do your own work if you want to get something done.Alliance sports has called me several times in relation to this.I don't know shitt about them but if you don't care if they're z-rated,pick up the phone.Another shot might be Betphoenix,they bailed some from bet911.When I lost my ass at BOS I didn't wait for some site with an affiliate deal to bail my ass,I did my own work and got a partial from Betjam.GL

In a few days i will start contacting the management at a few of the books i have gotten buried at over the years..i have sent a few emails and never even got a reply, but i will make some calls. Im going to a few days and see what SBR can do. I dont care if they are Z rated if SBR negotiates it because i dont think SBR would risk another PR nightmare like the one they are dealing with now, so if they hooked us up with a book i think id have a good chance in seeing my money...if i make a deal with a shit book on my own i dont think the results would be too positive.

[MBENZ]

Ok Jason but aren't you from Md.?I'm a little on the old side but I think I saw that.If so scratch DSI and BM off your list,they aren't taking any new Md. money.I feel bad for you guys and just trying to help.

[althelegend]

Serious allegations about SBR here:http://www.************.com/betislan...-inside-67671/

[bettilimbroke999]

I dont give a fukk if they are rated Z- if they can do some kind of bailout..i want see some of that $6,521 that was stolen from me. I dont think SBR would risk a bailout for their people from another book they didnt trust would pay their people, they dont want to go thru this all over again..you could very well be right that every Abook will take a pass..i was just told there were meetings so i will wait and see what happens with that. Youwager and 5dimes both have got a lot of money from me in the past, if there is no bailout they will never get another deposit from me ever, it would be in their best interest to give me some bailout offer and i have a feeling there will be plenty of people who will stop playing offshore after this.

Im not trying to be a dick but those of us who have done this for years know the difference between a 5Dimes/Bookmaker and a brand new shit book like BetIslands. The collapse of shit books does little to shake confidence in the A rated books that have been goin steady for years. I thought BetIslands was a dump before they robbed everybody...nothing has changed

[bubba]

Im not trying to be a dick but those of us who have done this for years know the difference between a 5Dimes/Bookmaker and a brand new shit book like BetIslands. The collapse of shit books does little to shake confidence in the A rated books that have been goin steady for years. I thought BetIslands was a dump before they robbed everybody...nothing has changed

Difference between a small "dump" book and a scam. This was scam, the only questions are when it started and who exactly was in on it.

[Keith Richard]

How come no one has mentioned the bailout offer mentioned across the street by a book not popular here? Not allowed?