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  • Gaze73
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-14
    • 3291

    #36
    Originally posted by Alfa1234
    You would gain the knowledge of knowing you actually have no edge and have been getting lucky for a bit. This is like the 50th "system" you've come up with. You are always 100% convinced this is the one that'll make you rich until losses and reality set in. You will not win long term if you are not beating the closing line on average. Read that last sentence again. 50 times.
    I know I have an edge even without posting here and even if I didn't have an edge I'd also know it without posting here because I track all my bets. Draws are inefficient because the dumbass market doesn't bet draws at all. Years ago when I tried betting only on favs it didn't work out because at least 30% of the games ended in draws, so I figured I might as well bet on the draws because no matter how strong a fav looks they always find a way to draw often enough. E.g. home team goal stats are 30:10 and away team stats are 15:40 so you might think "surely the home team will win by at least a goal" but nope, it's going to end 1:1 and the bookies collect all the square money on fav ML.
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    • rustie
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-23-12
      • 358

      #37
      Originally posted by Gaze73
      Waste of time, I would have to post 1000 draws for you to conclude it's not just luck. And what would I gain? Nothing.
      Well maybe you would gain some of those subscribers you so desire to "easily supplement" your meager bankroll. Just go away little boy , with your dreams of becoming a tout without proving anything. Typical teenage daydream lol
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      • cashin81
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-10-14
        • 12946

        #38
        gaze just post your plays, you just look like an idiot otherwise.

        going from betting the fav to laying the fav doesnt make you Einstein reincarnated.
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        • Gaze73
          SBR MVP
          • 01-27-14
          • 3291

          #39
          You clowns want free money? Bordeaux +1.5 will cover 90%, 10k to win 4160.
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          • Gaze73
            SBR MVP
            • 01-27-14
            • 3291

            #40
            Fukin clowns lmao, 0:1 HT to 3:1 FT happens like once per season in france at these odds. Fortunately I was ready for them to clown it up.
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            • newton0038
              SBR MVP
              • 03-07-07
              • 2382

              #41
              Originally posted by Gaze73
              You clowns want free money? Bordeaux +1.5 will cover 90%, 10k to win 4160.
              Marseille 3 vs 1 Bordeaux


              Did you get any bites on ur 1-900 line for that gem?
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              • rustie
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-23-12
                • 358

                #42
                sorry but that looks like you said Bordeaux +1.5 , yet the ticket seems to be for a over? Did I misinterpret something?
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                • tsty
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 04-27-16
                  • 510

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Gaze73
                  You clowns want free money? Bordeaux +1.5 will cover 90%, 10k to win 4160.
                  ahahhahaha i love you man
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                  • tsty
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 04-27-16
                    • 510

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Gaze73
                    A 3-way outcome with equal probabilities would be +200/+200/+200 with no juice. I bet on draws at +250 because the other two outcomes are not +200.
                    this is wrong my friend
                    a lot of people make this rookie error
                    all I can say is do the math again or at least study how most books price their odds with/without draws in em
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                    • tsty
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-27-16
                      • 510

                      #45
                      also on a side note I think you should be banned for going down the scummy tout route

                      nothing worse in this industry than touts

                      actually nothing worse in the world than touts

                      already bad enough this disease is infesting all of the internet with investment/selfhelp/guru/etc scamming millions of gullible people out of their hard earned money

                      also I'm not too sure why you think you need an edge as a tout lol there isn't one in the gambling industry that actually makes money from gambling
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                      • Gaze73
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-27-14
                        • 3291

                        #46
                        Lol if it weren't for that last second goal you'd all be like "anybody can hit such odds, there was no edge." No more free money for you!
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                        • tsty
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-27-16
                          • 510

                          #47
                          just remember my friend

                          money is not everything

                          don't sell your soul just for a few coins
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                          • Merkel
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-30-13
                            • 1473

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Gaze73
                            You clowns want free money? Bordeaux +1.5 will cover 90%, 10k to win 4160.
                            Free money.
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                            • cashin81
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-10-14
                              • 12946

                              #49
                              "If you have a shit BR like me"

                              then bets 10k on one game. Fraud, others have been ran off the forum for less.
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                              • Gaze73
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-27-14
                                • 3291

                                #50
                                Originally posted by cashin81
                                "If you have a shit BR like me"

                                then bets 10k on one game. Fraud, others have been ran off the forum for less.
                                Lol, I wish I could bet that much. The day I bet 10k on a game is the day I quit this forum. Actually make that 1k. With 1k bets I could easily make 500k turnover a month * 10% roi = 50k.
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                                • Merkel
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-30-13
                                  • 1473

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Gaze73
                                  Lol, I wish I could bet that much. The day I bet 10k on a game is the day I quit this forum. Actually make that 1k. With 1k bets I could easily make 500k turnover a month * 10% roi = 50k.
                                  No you can't. You might be able to well in contests and fantasy leagues, making money off this is a whole other matter.
                                  And you look like a dolt posting a 10k air bet.
                                  Which lost.
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                                  • cashin81
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-10-14
                                    • 12946

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Gaze73
                                    Lol, I wish I could bet that much. The day I bet 10k on a game is the day I quit this forum. Actually make that 1k. With 1k bets I could easily make 500k turnover a month * 10% roi = 50k.
                                    just get a loan. update us.
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                                    • Gaze73
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-27-14
                                      • 3291

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Merkel
                                      No you can't. You might be able to well in contests and fantasy leagues, making money off this is a whole other matter.
                                      And you look like a dolt posting a 10k air bet.
                                      Which lost.
                                      Actually there is very little difference. If I post a draw @3.5 it doesn't matter if it's a $50 or $1k bet, the only thing that matters is edge. I can consistently hit 10% roi at pinny closing lines, up to 20% at higher odds. Low odds still give me trouble. I often feel more confident in a pick @2.5 than @1.7. The former makes 12.5% roi at 45% win rate while the latter makes 2% at 60% win rate, almost a waste of time.
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                                      • Gaze73
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-27-14
                                        • 3291

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by cashin81
                                        just get a loan. update us.
                                        They don't give em to unemployed people.
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                                        • cashin81
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-10-14
                                          • 12946

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Gaze73
                                          They don't give em to unemployed people.
                                          with a beautiful mind like yours, why arent you working?
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                                          • Gaze73
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-27-14
                                            • 3291

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by cashin81
                                            with a beautiful mind like yours, why arent you working?
                                            Because it's a waste of time compared to how much I'll be making. One day I'll make more in 1 month than people around here make in 1 year. I'll be a king, muahahaa.
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                                            • Merkel
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-30-13
                                              • 1473

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Gaze73
                                              Because it's a waste of time compared to how much I'll be making. One day I'll make more in 1 month than people around here make in 1 year. I'll be a king, muahahaa.
                                              He's been saying for the last 5 years.....
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                                              • Gaze73
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-27-14
                                                • 3291

                                                #58
                                                I'll give y'all one more safe-ass free money bet. Rio Ave +0 @1.45 $10k 90%. Gil Vicente is trash, should be @6.
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                                                • Gaze73
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-27-14
                                                  • 3291

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Merkel
                                                  He's been saying for the last 5 years.....
                                                  I had a job for 2 full years with a 1+1 hour commute which slowed me down. Also I believe my first good system at that time was on horses and I abandoned racing a long time ago. Basically I can tell which horse is good value in the minute before the off but nobody would pay for such last minute picks. Also the limits are much lower, even $500 on a horse drops the price.
                                                  Last edited by Gaze73; 12-09-19, 02:20 PM.
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                                                  • Merkel
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-30-13
                                                    • 1473

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Gaze73
                                                    I'll give y'all one more safe-ass free money bet. Rio Ave +0 @1.45 $10k 90%. Gil Vicente is trash, should be @6.
                                                    Not "one more", the first one tanked.
                                                    1.45 are trash odds. No wonder you don't get anywhere.
                                                    Another air 10k?
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                                                    • Gaze73
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-27-14
                                                      • 3291

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Merkel
                                                      Not "one more", the first one tanked.
                                                      1.45 are trash odds. No wonder you don't get anywhere.
                                                      Another air 10k?
                                                      I said the first one was 90% and according to odds it was 95% at HT and 98% before the final whistle, yet you act like it was such a horrible play. I made money on it anyway. Rio Ave won too of course. 1.45 is not trash when it's 90% not gonna lose. Finding an edge at low odds is harder than at high odds but if you find it it's almost like free money. I'm testing a goal in first half strategy and am 17-0 so far at avg. odds 1.4. If it goes to 50-15 like I expect then I'll know it's free money but there's very few picks so it's gonna take months.
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                                                      • rustie
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 11-23-12
                                                        • 358

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Gaze73
                                                        Because it's a waste of time compared to how much I'll be making. One day I'll make more in 1 month than people around here make in 1 year. I'll be a king, muahahaa.
                                                        OMFG this is killing me , my stomach hurts from the sheer stupidity of this waste of skin who keeps repeatedly telling us about how much money he makes and can make ,then posts a "free money wager " that loses , then says working for something is a waste of time and can't get a $1000 loan and he's going to live like a king < I really would love to stop reading this crap , but it's like a train wreck waiting to happen and you can't look away cause you want to see what asinine thing he's going to say next . .................waiting........lol
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