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  • Division
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-31-16
    • 150

    #106
    Always appreciate comments.

    Can you explain more this part?

    Originally posted by EasyPicks
    Regarding ur bet log, imo, I feel that progression stakes will be pumped less than fkkked up more by variance, so it's not worth the hard work/discipline.
    Do you think level stakes are best regardless of percentage bet on progressive stakes?
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    • EasyPicks
      SBR MVP
      • 10-21-11
      • 3804

      #107
      Originally posted by Division
      Always appreciate comments.

      Can you explain more this part?


      Do you think level stakes are best regardless of percentage bet on progressive stakes?
      Hi,

      What I meant was, in a bad run (that will eventually happen) the progressive % stake plan will kill faster the main goal (growth of the bankroll) than it would help rise the bank in a good run.

      Two reasons for this:

      1# mentally is hard to surpass a bad run with objective/discipline bets (the demoralizing effect on the toll that the bankroll toke after the consecutive losses is hard to get around)

      2# good runs aren't enough (on a progressive % stake plan) to get the best over normal variance and bad runs...in order to get your goal.

      "Do you think level stakes are best regardless of percentage bet on progressive stakes?"

      Yes w/o a doubt, imo. An average+/good capper with high volume (large number of bets, not money - that's irrelevant) that beats the juice will end up making more money (in a 1 to 5 units scheme for example) than by sticking with the % progression. The key obviously is discipline either way.
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      • Division
        SBR High Roller
        • 05-31-16
        • 150

        #108
        English Premier League
        Man Utd v Tottenham
        Bet: Under 2.5 Goals @ 1.73 Paddy Power
        Estimated Win Percentage: 65%
        Stake: €37
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        • Division
          SBR High Roller
          • 05-31-16
          • 150

          #109
          Originally posted by EasyPicks
          "Do you think level stakes are best regardless of percentage bet on progressive stakes?"
          Yes w/o a doubt, imo. An average+/good capper with high volume (large number of bets, not money - that's irrelevant) that beats the juice will end up making more money (in a 1 to 5 units scheme for example) than by sticking with the % progression. The key obviously is discipline either way.
          This is an interesting article about the topic: https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-...62VHE9W3JPJ7X7
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          • EasyPicks
            SBR MVP
            • 10-21-11
            • 3804

            #110
            Originally posted by Division
            This is an interesting article about the topic: https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-...62VHE9W3JPJ7X7
            Yeah nice read (I also read their articles - they usually post them on twitter ).

            Like I said, 1 to 5 unit betting scheme for example way better than the flat bet stakes (assuming the capper has/knows his edge overall).....progression scheme theoretically (and as backed by the article) seems the best option....but you do have to factor in the difficulty on good decision making after a long losing streak....

            Thx for sharing.
            aGl 2 morrow (I'm avoiding that game)
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            • EasyPicks
              SBR MVP
              • 10-21-11
              • 3804

              #111
              Originally posted by Division
              There is a very serious problem over here with bookmakers closing or limiting accounts and nothing is being done about it but there is a lot of competition so it can be possible to keep betting and make a big profit before you run into problems.

              Personally I have had 7 accounts closed and 4 more restricted even with taking measures to keep my profit at a minimum at these books by laying off bets on Betfair (a betting exchange).
              Got a few questions about this ....If u have the time to shed a light on it:

              - was bet365 one of those (that block/limited you)?

              - how did books limited your accounts? (I had the same problem, will detail further after ur reply)

              - why don't you just use Betfair (book and exchange) and pinnacle?
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              • aspire15
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-17-17
                • 8

                #112
                Originally posted by Division
                Always appreciate comments.

                Can you explain more this part?


                Do you think level stakes are best regardless of percentage bet on progressive stakes?
                hi division,

                you said in the first posts that you bet flat 2% in each selection (regardeless of the odd? - thats my first question) but you've made this progression blog to make it more entertaining for readers....have you ever tried a similar challenge like this?
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                • Division
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-31-16
                  • 150

                  #113
                  Liverpool 0-0 Man Utd (Bet Won)
                  Crystal Palace 2-1 Chelsea (Bet lost)
                  Watford 0-1 Stoke (Bet Lost)
                  Man Utd 1-0 Tottenham (Bet Won)

                  Balance: €367

                  English Premier League
                  Chelsea v Man Utd
                  Bet: Under 2.5 Goals @ 1.62 BetFred
                  Estimated Win Percentage: 69%
                  Stake: €36

                  English Premier League
                  Everton v Watford
                  Bet: Exactly 2 or 3 Total Goals @ 2.1 Bet Victor
                  Estimated Win Percentage: 54%
                  Stake: €36
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                  • Division
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-31-16
                    • 150

                    #114
                    Originally posted by EasyPicks
                    Got a few questions about this ....If u have the time to shed a light on it:
                    - was bet365 one of those (that block/limited you)?
                    - how did books limited your accounts? (I had the same problem, will detail further after ur reply)
                    - why don't you just use Betfair (book and exchange) and pinnacle?
                    I still have my Bet365 account. I keep as many accounts open as possible by betting in such as way that the account goes into a negative but I recoup my losses by betting the other side on a betting exchange when the profit on the bookmaker account reaches a certain threshold. I only use Bet365 for the major European soccer leagues which may help keeping the account open but their limits are not too high so its not a bookmaker I use too often.

                    Some bookmakers closed my account and told me it was a trading decision, some bookmakers limited me to very small bets on soccer markets but will allow me to bet larger stakes on other sports. I contacted the regulators or the bookmakers, the gambling commission in the UK, the Irish department of justice and a couple of other organisations about it but there is nobody that can (or will) do anything about this practice.

                    I do use Betfair, just not for this log. There is little point in tipping a selection that has no liquidity on Betfair. Pinnacle stopped operating in my country as the government introduced a tax based on online turnover.

                    Originally posted by aspire15
                    hi division,
                    you said in the first posts that you bet flat 2% in each selection (regardeless of the odd? - thats my first question) but you've made this progression blog to make it more entertaining for readers....have you ever tried a similar challenge like this?
                    All my bets fall within a narrow range of odds so the flat stake is fairly suitable. I adjust the stake amount when the bankroll increases or decreases by certain percentages.

                    I did something similar to this years ago when my bankroll was smaller and I was less risk adverse but with a higher frequency of bets. There is not much interest being shown so I only occasionally post some bets now.
                    Last edited by Division; 11-02-17, 06:08 PM.
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                    • Division
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 05-31-16
                      • 150

                      #115
                      Chelsea 1-0 Man Utd (Bet Won)
                      Everton 3-2 Watford (Bet Lost)

                      Balance: €353

                      World Cup Qualifier
                      Denmark v Republic of Ireland
                      Bet: Exactly 2 or 3 Total Goals @ 2.1 Bet Victor
                      Estimated Win Percentage: 56%
                      Stake: €35
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                      • Division
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 05-31-16
                        • 150

                        #116
                        Denmark 0-0 Ireland (Bet Lost)

                        Balance: €318

                        English Premier League
                        Arsenal v Tottenham
                        Bet: Both Teams To Score @ 1.53 Bet365
                        Estimated Win Percentage: 72%
                        Stake: €31

                        English Premier League
                        Leicester v Man City
                        Bet: Man City To Win & Both Teams To Score @ 2.6 BetFred
                        Estimated Win Percentage: 43%
                        Stake: €31
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                        • Division
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 05-31-16
                          • 150

                          #117
                          Arsenal 2-0 Tottenham (Bet Lost)
                          Leicester 0-2 Man City (Bet Lost)

                          Balance: €256

                          English Premier League
                          Newcastle v Watford
                          Bet: Watford Win & Draw Double Chance @ 1.7 Bet365
                          Estimated Win Percentage: 83%
                          Stake: €25

                          English Premier League
                          Man Utd v Brighton
                          Bet: Under 3.5 Goals @ 1.5 Ladbrokes
                          Estimated Win Percentage: 82%
                          Stake: €25
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                          • Division
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 05-31-16
                            • 150

                            #118
                            Newcastle 0-3 Watford (Bet Won)
                            Man Utd 1-0 Brighton (Bet Won)

                            Balance: €286

                            English Premier League
                            Stoke v Liverpool
                            Bet: over 2.5 goals @ 1.57 Bet365
                            Estimated Win Percentage: 71%
                            Stake: €28

                            English Premier League
                            Chelsea v Swansea
                            Bet: under 3.5 goals @ 1.57 Ladbrokes
                            Estimated Win Percentage: 85%
                            Stake: €28
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                            • Pr0bot
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 11-24-16
                              • 153

                              #119
                              Hey, just curious, what is the process which gives you these % odds? GL! : )

                              And dont want to be rude, but is there really value in betting something at 1.57 with a team that can easily score 4 goals on their own? :C
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                              • Division
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-31-16
                                • 150

                                #120
                                Stoke 0-3 Liverpool (Bet Won)
                                Chelsea 1-0 Swansea (Bet Won)

                                Balance: €318

                                English Premier League
                                Arsenal v Man Utd
                                Bet: under 2.5 goals @ 1.85 BetFred
                                Estimated Win Percentage: 71%
                                Stake: €31

                                English Premier League
                                Leicester v Burnley
                                Bet: Under 2.5 Goals @ 1.67 BoyleSports
                                Estimated Win Percentage: 66%
                                Stake: €31
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                                • Division
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 05-31-16
                                  • 150

                                  #121
                                  Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd (Bet Lost)
                                  Leicester 1-0 Burnley (Bet Won)

                                  Balance: €308

                                  English Premier League
                                  Leicester v Crystal Palace
                                  Bet: Leicester Win @ 1.91 William Hill
                                  Estimated Win Percentage: 67%
                                  Stake: €46

                                  English Premier League
                                  Brighton v Burnley
                                  Bet: Burnley Win Draw No Bet @ 2.2 Bet Victor
                                  Estimated Win Percentage: 68%
                                  Stake: €46
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