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  • JMobile
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-21-10
    • 19074

    #1
    Your thoughts on your money and "bums/homeless" people on the streets.
    So here in So Cal, we don't get many homeless people walking down the streets begging for money, unless your in downtown San Diego. But here is my story followed up with an opinion.

    I went to In n Out with some friends around 1pm and place was busy. Old homeless man standing outside and not looking so well. My pity ran behind my spine so instead of giving him money, I wanted to do the right thing and order him a complete combo meal. When I got done ordering it, I gave him his receipt and told him when they called his number to go in and get it. I thought I did the most noble thing in his life. When he saw the receipt, the guy did not understand and rather get the money instead of being saturated with food. So when they called his number, he went inside, got his meal and stood outside and tried to sell it to people entering in the restaurant. I was dinning outside in the benches and witness this so I went to him and told him that I bought him his food so he can eat it because that's what money is suppose to be used for. And he told me that he didn't want it and wanted money instead. We argued and I told him that that was my money and I get to decided what to do with it because I worked hard for it. At this point, I grab everybody's attention who was dinning outside too. At the end, the homeless guy gave me back his food and walk away. I've never been so insulted in my entire life after that.

    Couple of weeks later in my hometown as I was putting gas, some bum comes up to me and ask me for some change. So I tell him, "If you are thirsty or want some food, we can both go inside and get you something to eat otherwise I won't suppose anything else". The bum hesitated and then said, "well I gotta be honest. All I really want is some booz to drink". I replied, "well I gotta be honest, I don't support that because it's my money". Bum walked away with a failed face.

    My opinion on supporting these type of people; I don't have time to do charity or walk into a shelter and donate in what I believe in but out in the streets to the ones who don't look for homeless shelter or programs and ask for my money will encounter that the only thing I support is watching them eat the food I buy them. We all know that bums and homeless people just want to drink alcohol and well the more we encourage that with our money the more they won't change. Now when I get approach by these beings, my only response now is; "sorry, I only have my CC on me.Better luck next time". Please, don't waste my time.
  • ncat12
    SBR MVP
    • 11-24-09
    • 1170

    #2
    as the commercial says "its my money and I want it now"...btw think I could get some points to get a pizza..I wont gamble with I promise ..lol.....
    you did the right thing on both occasions..imo...I have been through the exact same thing here in good ol Mary-land
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    • Dutch
      SBR MVP
      • 09-21-10
      • 4339

      #3
      I likes to honk and make rude sexual gestures at homeless people walking down the street.
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      • Finch Dinero
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-28-11
        • 421

        #4
        You've got a good heart kid. For me I guess it depends on the situation, I find myself donating more to the older homeless in wheelchairs.
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        • Marv001
          SBR MVP
          • 02-27-10
          • 1147

          #5
          Hate them, most of them pricks.
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          • Ralphie Halves
            SBR MVP
            • 12-13-09
            • 4507

            #6
            You were naive, and now you know what they really do with your money after they lie to everyone. It's like graffiti, people out there try and highlight the 1% of good and make it seem that it's always like that. Just like graffiti, homeless people suck ass. We all learn this at some point.
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            • MatI
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-17-11
              • 5200

              #7
              Homeless people don't usually go hungry. They wait until you leave and will eat all the left overs out of the bin.

              Money is for booze or drugs. Always.
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              • JMobile
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-21-10
                • 19074

                #8
                And here I was thinking that I was going to be vilified for what I believe in. You learn a lot of things and sometimes being a good Samaritan is lying to them too about not carrying any simple cash.

                And someone said earlier that they wait until we're finish and come by and eat what's left. If those type of people came by my table while I was eating, yeah my sympathy would be to share my food with them. Hell, if I was still hungry after, I could always by more food to go.

                Thanks guys, I feel good. Hope to see some of you at the bash!
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                • Thunder Gulch
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-30-10
                  • 996

                  #9
                  There are just some really sad cases of people down on their luck or with real mental illness, but the con artists outnumber them by a wide margin.
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                  • DOMINATER
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-10-09
                    • 3698

                    #10
                    I have helped many homeless I give them 10 to 50 dollars depending on the situation, there is one guy he drives a car ,parks and plays the game, not good.Many are junkies some just are what I call lost souls.I actually talk to these people if traffic is not a problem. I do look into their eyes deep I see their souls most are gentlre people who can't maintain a home ,just not capable. I am involved with helping them in crossroads. If I ever hit the lotteryI will build housing and be of help. In the eighties the Politicians set them free from all the state mental hospitals etc.In Europe its critical.Listen I understand they want the money for booze,I will give them money for booze ,it will stop them from commiting a petty crime.
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                    • Maniac
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-12-11
                      • 667

                      #11
                      Had a few I would give money to on occasion when I was in London - sometimes at the end of the night I would see a girl wandering round with a bag full of books trying to sell them, would usually give her some money and usually not even look at the books, but I liked the way that she was at least making an effort.

                      There was another guy I would see in the station sometimes when I would go for my lunch and sometimes would give him a few coins, not always though - the final straw with him though was coming out of a nightclub one night a few years later and saw the same guy who asked for money, I didnt have any so said no and he pretty much chased me down the road really badgering me for "just 50p" "just 20p" "just 5p" etc and that annoyed me - I had said no the first time, so I dont know what made him think that to keep pestering me would make me give him some.

                      Bought a can of dog food and a sandwich for a guy who was sat down with a dog outside the supermarket once - similart to the OP, he just looked at me as if I was an idiot...
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                      • Maverick22
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-10-10
                        • 807

                        #12
                        Same thing happened to me in college. We used to take wrapped hot dogs and hamurgers from the cateria when we left. This guy approaches me on my way to my next class. Saying he was hungry and wanted food. So i pulled the hot dogs out my bag and offer them to him. And this guy had the nerve to say "Nah, I dont want that".
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                        • dudekid
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-08-09
                          • 3200

                          #13
                          wow this is actually a really good thread, i work in downtown boston which i swear next to san fran is the land of the homeless...one of them sits outside wendys every day, i bought him a crispy chicken sandwich (sure it was a dollar but its a tasty sandwich) and he refused it and said he just wanted money...after that i just either ignore them or tell them i only have plastic...my real favorites are the ones that just come up to you and straight up ask you for $$ for cigarettes or weed or booze, i just look at them like are you kidding me?
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                          • Grits n' Gravy
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 13024

                            #14
                            Better off donating to a good local charity. Every city has shelters for abused kids and women along with Veterans association.
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                            • JMobile
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-21-10
                              • 19074

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DOMINATER
                              I have helped many homeless I give them 10 to 50 dollars depending on the situation, there is one guy he drives a car ,parks and plays the game, not good.Many are junkies some just are what I call lost souls.I actually talk to these people if traffic is not a problem. I do look into their eyes deep I see their souls most are gentlre people who can't maintain a home ,just not capable. I am involved with helping them in crossroads. If I ever hit the lotteryI will build housing and be of help. In the eighties the Politicians set them free from all the state mental hospitals etc.In Europe its critical.Listen I understand they want the money for booze,I will give them money for booze ,it will stop them from commiting a petty crime.
                              I'm not sure if they ever discovered that in prison they can get free health care and food from our taxes. The only disadvantage is, they can't drink booze or drugs.

                              Originally posted by Maniac
                              There was another guy I would see in the station sometimes when I would go for my lunch and sometimes would give him a few coins, not always though - the final straw with him though was coming out of a nightclub one night a few years later and saw the same guy who asked for money, I didnt have any so said no and he pretty much chased me down the road really badgering me for "just 50p" "just 20p" "just 5p" etc and that annoyed me - I had said no the first time, so I dont know what made him think that to keep pestering me would make me give him some.

                              Bought a can of dog food and a sandwich for a guy who was sat down with a dog outside the supermarket once - similart to the OP, he just looked at me as if I was an idiot...
                              He saw you as his primary supporter and since you said yes once, he was trying to make you say yes again.

                              It's a shame that some homeless will walk around with a dog for a better surplus of goods but won't use them for the dog and rather for their own personal use. But what you did was the best way of demonstrating our fashion of making sure both got taken cared of.

                              Originally posted by Maverick22
                              Same thing happened to me in college. We used to take wrapped hot dogs and hamurgers from the cateria when we left. This guy approaches me on my way to my next class. Saying he was hungry and wanted food. So i pulled the hot dogs out my bag and offer them to him. And this guy had the nerve to say "Nah, I dont want that".
                              beggars can't be choosers. And I love hot dogs any day of the week. I'm hungry now!
                              Originally posted by dudekid
                              wow this is actually a really good thread, i work in downtown boston which i swear next to san fran is the land of the homeless...one of them sits outside wendys every day, i bought him a crispy chicken sandwich (sure it was a dollar but its a tasty sandwich) and he refused it and said he just wanted money...after that i just either ignore them or tell them i only have plastic...my real favorites are the ones that just come up to you and straight up ask you for $$ for cigarettes or weed or booze, i just look at them like are you kidding me?
                              Just tell them that you don't support that. Makes me rage when a bum doesn't take the advantage of eating real food.

                              Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                              Better off donating to a good local charity. Every city has shelters for abused kids and women along with Veterans association.
                              Shelters also have a stipulation where drugs and alcohol is not allowed. So they won't show up and so they come to us for "help".
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                              • mighty maron
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-20-09
                                • 4215

                                #16
                                A gift should be unconditional. You stress less and feel the joy of giving. If your moral compass steers you to give, then give and be on your way. Being a double-minded man is the worst thing for your own well being.

                                But for the grace of God.....
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                                • JMobile
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-21-10
                                  • 19074

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mighty maron
                                  A gift should be unconditional. You stress less and feel the joy of giving. If your moral compass steers you to give, then give and be on your way. Being a double-minded man is the worst thing for your own well being.

                                  But for the grace of God.....
                                  The issue here is the type of gift. I regret nothing that I have experienced from all this.
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                                  • chico2663
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-02-10
                                    • 36915

                                    #18
                                    i have actually got in fights with these knuckleheads. i had where a brother said he ran out of gas and had his child in the car. I gave him 10 and ran into him 2 blocks later and he was drinking. Was pissed off but said that it was my fault for being so gullible. 2 weeks later, i ran into him and he tried the same shit. Told him to go **** himself and asshole took a swing. Cops came by and i was on top of him but lucky that i knew one of them. Another time i had a huge hillbilly ask for money. i said no and he hit my car with rock. (I work in over-the-rhine in cincinnati,ohio) i carry a over-sized driver for protection. i smacked the ass-hole on the shins. Food for thought; whenever a bum starts my way I ask them first if they have any money I can have. They are left speechless.
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                                    • Weems2k
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-11-11
                                      • 559

                                      #19
                                      War bums using tacos for wallets....
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                                      • LordVodka
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-17-09
                                        • 5206

                                        #20
                                        Homeess should be euthanized. Get rid of this human garbage.
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                                        • Lick496
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-07-11
                                          • 590

                                          #21
                                          I never, ever, ever give them money if they are just begging. There have been a few circumstances where one was doing some kind of street performance, or in some way doing something to work for a tip, and in those cases a i might toss them a dollar.

                                          The main reason I dont support them is because I work my ass off anywhere from 50-80 hours a week, struggling to survive. How is that fair, for me to do all that I do, and then get harassed when I don't give someone who begs?

                                          I do actually appreciate the homeless men and women who collect cans though. They are not only trying to make money for themselves, but helping out the community a little bit as well.
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                                          • TheCentaur
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-28-11
                                            • 8108

                                            #22
                                            My last trip to Vegas I saw one of those panhandlers on a bridge on the strip with a cute little puppy, then a few hrs later walking back I saw a different person in the same spot with the same little puppy
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                                            • GamblerSpirit
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-18-11
                                              • 4085

                                              #23
                                              JMobile you're probably a bigger bum than the bum you insulted with your pennies. **** outta here \*\*\*\*\*\*. Keep your pennies to yourself, bum.
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                                              • OMGRandyJackson
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-07-10
                                                • 1680

                                                #24
                                                I cannot afford to give to the homeless. Plus 90% of them are undeserving of my help. In my city there are TONS of churches and community outreach programs designed to help them. Majority refuse the help. Change starts with you, not someone else helping you. Why help someone who resists the change and does NOT want to work to better themselves?
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                                                • nick86
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 04-27-11
                                                  • 632

                                                  #25
                                                  I disagree with this post. Most of these bums as you call it suffer from some kind of mental problems and are addicted to alcohol or drugs. If we are to be a humane society we should be looking after them, not by providing them with money to buy drugs and alcohol but to support the government in providing them with mental health services, shelter, and food. Not all can be saved, but there will always be a few.
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                                                  • baskets
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-24-11
                                                    • 11691

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LordVodka
                                                    Homeess should be euthanized. Get rid of this human garbage.

                                                    LordVodka for the win.


                                                    Good job, sir.
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                                                    • HoulihansTX
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                      • 30566

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Weems2k
                                                      War bums using tacos for wallets....
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                                                      • OMGRandyJackson
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                        • 1680

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nick86
                                                        I disagree with this post. Most of these bums as you call it suffer from some kind of mental problems and are addicted to alcohol or drugs. If we are to be a humane society we should be looking after them, not by providing them with money to buy drugs and alcohol but to support the government in providing them with mental health services, shelter, and food. Not all can be saved, but there will always be a few.
                                                        My community does offer these services and majority refuse to use it. They want to smoke their crack.
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                                                        • JMobile
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-21-10
                                                          • 19074

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by GamblerSpirit
                                                          JMobile you're probably a bigger bum than the bum you insulted with your pennies. **** outta here \*\*\*\*\*\*. Keep your pennies to yourself, bum.
                                                          Pauly is looking for you in your thread, U Mad Bro?

                                                          Originally posted by nick86
                                                          I disagree with this post. Most of these bums as you call it suffer from some kind of mental problems and are addicted to alcohol or drugs. If we are to be a humane society we should be looking after them, not by providing them with money to buy drugs and alcohol but to support the government in providing them with mental health services, shelter, and food. Not all can be saved, but there will always be a few.
                                                          The event in this thread is based opposing from what I have highlighted. We have stop giving them money to facilitate themselves with these habits. From some of the posters, including me, you will read that instead of money we have bought them food and handed to them knowing that it wasn't food they wanted but money to buy these drugs and alcohol. We are against that. We are proud that the goverment provides these special necessities for the homeless which can be known as rehab programs. But the reality of it all, some can't let go of these habits and prefer to wonder out and beg for money.

                                                          Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                          My last trip to Vegas I saw one of those panhandlers on a bridge on the strip with a cute little puppy, then a few hrs later walking back I saw a different person in the same spot with the same little puppy
                                                          UNREAL!!!!!! This makes me mad.

                                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                                          i have actually got in fights with these knuckleheads. i had where a brother said he ran out of gas and had his child in the car. I gave him 10 and ran into him 2 blocks later and he was drinking. Was pissed off but said that it was my fault for being so gullible. 2 weeks later, i ran into him and he tried the same shit. Told him to go **** himself and asshole took a swing. Cops came by and i was on top of him but lucky that i knew one of them. Another time i had a huge hillbilly ask for money. i said no and he hit my car with rock. (I work in over-the-rhine in cincinnati,ohio) i carry a over-sized driver for protection. i smacked the ass-hole on the shins. Food for thought; whenever a bum starts my way I ask them first if they have any money I can have. They are left speechless.
                                                          They hand out a lot at gas stations, man. In my city, they tend to hang out on Thursday nights. I haven't figured out why? Maybe its the day of the week where gas prices change and brings more business???
                                                          Originally posted by Lick496
                                                          I never, ever, ever give them money if they are just begging. There have been a few circumstances where one was doing some kind of street performance, or in some way doing something to work for a tip, and in those cases a i might toss them a dollar.

                                                          The main reason I dont support them is because I work my ass off anywhere from 50-80 hours a week, struggling to survive. How is that fair, for me to do all that I do, and then get harassed when I don't give someone who begs?

                                                          I do actually appreciate the homeless men and women who collect cans though. They are not only trying to make money for themselves, but helping out the community a little bit as well.
                                                          My reason too. It's my money and I decide what to do with it. If I wanna buy them food, I'll do just that. Other than that, I don't support anything else.
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JMobile

                                                            Pauly is looking for you in your thread, U Mad Bro?

                                                            Yes the little pussy is mad J,

                                                            He got the mods to destroy the fade thread he made that blew up in his face............
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                                                            • JMobile
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-21-10
                                                              • 19074

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                              Yes the little pussy is mad J,

                                                              He got the mods to destroy the fade thread he made that blew up in his face............
                                                              Unreal, I just notice this.
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