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  • Da Manster!
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-07
    • 17720

    #36
    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
    Not trying to act or sound like an a-hole... this place was booming because of a unique pattern. Highly thought out... and it made things more entertaining... Poker... Betpoints (that were worth something)... a sportsbook. Beat The Prick... a few bashes. I totally understand... things do change. The die hards are still around... but soon they will fade out. It happens... it's called life.

    Throw in a ridiculous NHL Finals... and NBA Finals... and it's proof in the pudding. No one cares when things are lame.

    I wish everyone an amazing Summer! Enjoy the weather!! Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
    Tim,

    Politics aside, I love you like a brother!...you are fam to me...I really miss your "blind date stinky gash" threads. I loved that one blonde chick with the lazy eye (maybe wearing glasses?) spreading her legs taking a selfie! Damn I belched! and honorable mention to the pool (billiards) chick with the short skirt!
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    • daneblazer
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-14-08
      • 27861

      #37
      It’s not just gambling forums it’s all forums. Only type of forum I’ve seen that’s flourishing still is college sports
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      • flyingillini
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 41219

        #38
        Originally posted by daneblazer
        It’s not just gambling forums it’s all forums. Only type of forum I’ve seen that’s flourishing still is college sports
        Some forums are still thriving. I’ve been posting at ISG for years. There are thousands of new posters. It’s busier than it’s ever been. Probably the most entertaining content as well.
        המוסד‎
        המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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        • daneblazer
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-14-08
          • 27861

          #39
          Yea there are outliers but as a whole forums are dying down. The days of 2005-2010 are likely over
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          • franklee168
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-06-11
            • 5544

            #40
            When you take away the locker room atmosphere, people leave the locker room.

            Can't have degens crossing their legs and folding their napkins at the table.
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            • Nate rasta
              SBR MVP
              • 05-30-22
              • 2953

              #41
              Nothing ever stays the same. Change is always persistent. For good or for bad.
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              • Madison
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-16-11
                • 6442

                #42
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                Here is what happened. 25 years ago when forums started posters where 25 years younger, don't laugh yet. The primary bettors in forums were guys in this demographic 35 years to 60 years old. Now after 25 years these people are 60 - 85 years old (most likely half of them dead as gamblers are fat, drink a lot and smoke and sit all day watching screens and never exercise).

                When the forums where big in 2005-2010 the forums didn't invest in attracting young members as their only concern was to maximize profits from their current demographic (35-60). As posters kept dying or retiring there was no new blood replacing them and here we are where we are now.

                When I was a teenager my dad would take me to the racetrack or taught me how to gamble with his local. I would ask questions about spreads, totals, etc to learn. Now how many of you in this forum who have children are teaching them about sports gambling? If you don't teach the new generation how to gamble then the forums will eventually die as kids now have so many other hobbies like Tik Tok, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.
                That's my two cents.
                I had my 5 yr old grandson making air bets on TVG until my daughter walked in on me. LOL

                Financials and gambling should be mandatory in high school.
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                • stevenash
                  Moderator
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65461

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Nate rasta
                  Nothing ever stays the same. Change is always persistent. For good or for bad.
                  Change is usually a good thing.
                  But...
                  Your can't expect change to be successful overnight.
                  I get it, this is the instant gratification era, people want things, and they want them in a hour or less.
                  That's not going to happen here, there, or anywhere.

                  Patience.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65461

                    #44
                    Originally posted by homie1975
                    you are misunderstanding my original question/statement.

                    i was talking about Sports Forum Message Boards, not general boards like REDDIT

                    there is 100x more on REDDIT about cooking and recipes than there is about sports.
                    I do and did understand the OP, my post was not directed at any one individual.
                    It was directed at individuals that say message boards on the whole are dead, they are not.
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                    • italianbandit
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-17-11
                      • 2622

                      #45
                      While all forums are having less traffic, this place has crashed. I’ve been at Covers the last couple of years and it’s very vibrant there.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61367

                        #46
                        Originally posted by italianbandit
                        While all forums are having less traffic, this place has crashed. I’ve been at Covers the last couple of years and it’s very vibrant there.
                        Covers is the model SBR is trying to emulate. As the same group of people are running both sites and you're right that the model has proven successful over there where it started a year or so earlier than here.
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                        • Eddy Munny
                          Restricted User
                          • 08-13-13
                          • 15767

                          #47
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          I do and did understand the OP, my post was not directed at any one individual.
                          It was directed at individuals that say message boards on the whole are dead, they are not.
                          Reddit isn't even comparable. It's the Amazon of message boards, any reasonable topic is fair game, they have the market cornered. As sportsbetting goes, you get more insightful dialogue on a YouTube comments section than the average message board.
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                          • italianbandit
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-17-11
                            • 2622

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            Covers is the model SBR is trying to emulate. As the same group of people are running both sites and you're right that the model has proven successful over there where it started a year or so earlier than here.
                            Also, in retrospect, it wasn't a good move for SBR to abandon their reputation of being a ally of players from offshore books. It's what they made their name and reputation on. Both bases could have been cultivated.
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                            • ChuckyTheGoat
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-04-11
                              • 37282

                              #49
                              I'll chime in with a few opinions. I have enjoyed posting here over time. Enjoyed the camaraderie of bull-shitting with guys who had similar interests.

                              Two main objections which could be a sticking point:
                              1) What happened to the Point system?
                              ...As a new member here, that was a big selling point. I don't think anyone is asking for the world. Would just be nice to think that these accumulated points could translate to a few gift cards.

                              2) Poker needs to come back (in some form).
                              ...I actually think the old Poker promos were brilliant. A qualifying season with a one-day Final tournament, that was brilliant. Kept guys interested on a daily basis. Chance to bullshit with guys in the chat, and a chance to win some prize money. You really need to bring Poker back.
                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                              • ChuckyTheGoat
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 04-04-11
                                • 37282

                                #50
                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                Not trying to act or sound like an a-hole... this place was booming because of a unique pattern. Highly thought out... and it made things more entertaining... Poker... Betpoints (that were worth something)... a sportsbook. Beat The Prick... a few bashes. I totally understand... things do change. The die hards are still around... but soon they will fade out. It happens... it's called life.

                                Throw in a ridiculous NHL Finals... and NBA Finals... and it's proof in the pudding. No one cares when things are lame.

                                I wish everyone an amazing Summer! Enjoy the weather!! Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
                                Hey, Shot. Great minds think alike!

                                I had not yet read your post. Funny how we BOTH bring up two of the same points. Somebody needs to revamp the Poker and Betpoints system.

                                It's just nice to feel like your time has some value. Posting into a fukin vacuum is no fun.
                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                • jackpot269
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-24-07
                                  • 12842

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by homie1975
                                  is forumville dead?

                                  are the days of the mid to late 2000's when sports forums were ablaze with activity, gone?

                                  if so, then why all of a sudden is this happening now?

                                  it is like the activity has fallen off a cliff at the some of the most popular ones, like this one.

                                  thoughts ?
                                  I did not read thru all the post so may have already been said, but social media, as we all know has completely changed how we use the internet (or World wide web) to communicate.
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                                  • jackpot269
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-24-07
                                    • 12842

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                    Hey, Shot. Great minds think alike!

                                    I had not yet read your post. Funny how we BOTH bring up two of the same points. Somebody needs to revamp the Poker and Betpoints system.

                                    It's just nice to feel like your time has some value. Posting into a fukin vacuum is no fun.
                                    I've been around SBR for a little while and Chucky is truly one of the smartest people who post here! Knows so many interesting things in most sports and life. Knowlege of the history in most sports, is rarely matched.
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                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-04-11
                                      • 37282

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by jackpot269
                                      I've been around SBR for a little while and Chucky is truly one of the smartest people who post here! Knows so many interesting things in most sports and life. Knowlege of the history in most sports, is rarely matched.
                                      Thanks, jack! The sports-knowledge is something I picked up as a young boy. Honestly, the great athletes jumped off the page to me, truly bigger than life.

                                      Of all the athletes I admired, I have to put Lew Alcindor (later Kareem) in a class of his own. His statuesque figure made me question whether this guy was even real. Rarely would I say that an athlete was so good that the game was unfair (for opponents), but that was a young Alcindor.
                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                      • jackpot269
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-24-07
                                        • 12842

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                        Thanks, jack! The sports-knowledge is something I picked up as a young boy. Honestly, the great athletes jumped off the page to me, truly bigger than life.

                                        Of all the athletes I admired, I have to put Lew Alcindor (later Kareem) in a class of his own. His statuesque figure made me question whether this guy was even real. Rarely would I say that an athlete was so good that the game was unfair (for opponents), but that was a young Alcindor.
                                        The first time I ever saw Hersel Walker run the ball as a true freshman, it was like he was the man, and everyone else was the boys, it always sticks out with me.
                                        also

                                        Derrick Thomas (LB, Alabama, 1985-88)
                                        Tackles: 204 | Tackles for loss: 68 | Sacks: 52
                                        For two seasons, Thomas played with Cornelius Bennett. The next two seasons, Thomas played like him. As a senior, the 6-foot-4, 230-pound Thomas made 39 tackles for loss, 27 of them sacks, and added 44 quarterback hurries. His tackles behind the line of scrimmage tally is a record that might never be matched. Put it this way: Thirty-one seasons later -- after a period in which the Crimson Tide have won six national championships and put 23 consensus All-American defenders on the field -- no Alabama player has come within 12 of Thomas' mark of 39 tackles for loss in a season. He was named All-American and won the Butkus Award in 1988.


                                        27 sacks in a collage season, I don't know who is #2 but I don't think anyone else has 20.

                                        Interesting fact, I know you like those chucky,
                                        When Thomas was playing at Alabama the NCAA did not keep sacks as a stat, but the SEC did, Thats why sometimes when they talk about sack leaders for all time in collage you don't hear his name, but nobody comes close. He was a nightmare for QB's
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 04-04-11
                                          • 37282

                                          #55
                                          That's great stuff, jack. Yes, Derrick Thomas was an amazing player.

                                          The one college player that comes to mind as a pass rusher is Tedy Bruschi. He was a spectacular pass rusher. Had one season where he recorded a Sack in every single game.

                                          Like you say, it took a while for the NCAA to record Sacks as an Official Stat.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • homie1975
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15452

                                            #56
                                            I guess we can chalk/chock up the record low traffic right now to "the dog days of summer".

                                            If traffic has not gone up at least three fold from where it is today, by Sat 8/26 when college football has like 8 or 10 games slated, then we will know that sports betting forumville has really changed.

                                            Either way, I will be around to irritate you all from time to time :-)
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65461

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                              I guess we can chalk/chock up the record low traffic right now to "the dog days of summer".

                                              If traffic has not gone up at least three fold from where it is today, by Sat 8/26 when college football has like 8 or 10 games slated, then we will know that sports betting forumville has really changed.

                                              Either way, I will be around to irritate you all from time to time :-)
                                              Personally speaking, I wouldn't want it any other way :-)

                                              I'm expecting traffic to be up come pre-season NFL, and better when NFL kicks off.
                                              I'll be highly disappointed if it's not.
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                                              • Da Manster!
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-13-07
                                                • 17720

                                                #58
                                                What ever happened to the one and only Michael Jack Corbin?...Shari?...Can someone give me the skinny on them?
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                                                • DwightShrute
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                  • 103091

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                  What ever happened to the one and only Michael Jack Corbin?...Shari?...Can someone give me the skinny on them?
                                                  JJ is exposing another forum with endless losing picks and in the process creating several more GA members.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 61367

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                    What ever happened to the one and only Michael Jack Corbin?...Shari?...Can someone give me the skinny on them?
                                                    They both finished up with SBR 3-4 months ago. Shari has a busy real life and JJ is now working at Bookmakersreview.com
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                                                    • Thor4140
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-09-08
                                                      • 22296

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                      i've been involved in this business since 1996.
                                                      This is one of the first things I noticed all these years ago.
                                                      All sports forums will be quiet the next eight to ten weeks.

                                                      Outside of MLB, this is what you have, US Open Golf, Wimbledon, a couple of other golf and tennis majors, and that's pretty much it.
                                                      You have posters from all sites going away for vacations, etc. etc.

                                                      Then football cranks up, and everybody comes back to life so to speak.

                                                      You can't make a proper assessment to the question "Is Forumville dead"? Until at least the beginning of the NFL playoffs.
                                                      Until then, it's a wait and see.

                                                      Riddle me this?
                                                      If message boards are a dinosaur, explain why Redditt is still at top ten GLOBAL message board website?
                                                      i agree with a lot of what you said Nash but are people coming back to a half ass line board which was one if not the best things SBR offered. How about the former beat the prick contest? Is that coming back? Political vanished and so did around 20 of the posters. I know it gets heated in there but the bottom line is traffic not hiring someone with thin skin to help run the joint. Like i said when this all started and if it was a stock i would have shorted it with all the ridiculous changes and from what i read (and could have missed it) there never is an explanation for the change. I am not a big point guy but a lot of guys loved the challenged of building your points. Are they still worthless? They pretty much just took them.
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                                                      • homie1975
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                        • 15452

                                                        #62
                                                        ^ Thor we are still getting 12 points a day as PROS when we log in so that is good !

                                                        would definitely like to use the points on something though.
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                                                        • slewfan
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-01-15
                                                          • 15899

                                                          #63
                                                          SBR was very lenient with forum posters compared to Covers. Covers has an “ old boy network “ and you cannot voice an opinion …

                                                          I think one thing Covers excels at is their “ SCORES “ and games coverage. Best coverage I’ve ever found. When first joining SBR they asked some questions. I told them the model Covers uses is spectacular. They cover every aspect of the games, from A to Z, pretty much. Tons of information…

                                                          I use their coverage of games, but their Forums do not compare to SBR. In my opinion anyway.. SBR is way superior, or had been up until last year.. Especially when I’m not putting my own foot in my mouth..

                                                          The “ Scores and Matchup “ page is what I am referring to .
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 15767

                                                            #64
                                                            Lol, and now we've quietly landed in the Saloon... That is, until next week when another oblivious poster suddenly notices things aren't quite the same as they were some years ago and starts a thread about it, thinking they've uncovered some peculiar gemstone and would like to call attention to it.

                                                            It'll gain some traction, then some more, then the mods will get involved, the momentum will exceed any other thread, including ones pertaining to sports, and then BAM! The Saloon door smacks 'em in the ass again.

                                                            Rinse and repeat.

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                                                            • Thor4140
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-09-08
                                                              • 22296

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                                              ^ Thor we are still getting 12 points a day as PROS when we log in so that is good !

                                                              would definitely like to use the points on something though.
                                                              Reminds me of my wave app where i get a high five for reporting a pot hole or cop lol. How many points do you have to get to for them to be worth something? They could have ask people to turn them in in the beginning and honor them but they just took them like thieves in the night. I always thought when a company buys out another they have to honor what hey bought. Guess not
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                                                              • TheMoneyShot
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-14-07
                                                                • 28672

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by slewfan
                                                                SBR was very lenient with forum posters compared to Covers. Covers has an “ old boy network “ and you cannot voice an opinion …

                                                                I think one thing Covers excels at is their “ SCORES “ and games coverage. Best coverage I’ve ever found. When first joining SBR they asked some questions. I told them the model Covers uses is spectacular. They cover every aspect of the games, from A to Z, pretty much. Tons of information…

                                                                I use their coverage of games, but their Forums do not compare to SBR. In my opinion anyway.. SBR is way superior, or had been up until last year.. Especially when I’m not putting my own foot in my mouth..

                                                                The “ Scores and Matchup “ page is what I am referring to .
                                                                Covers had their "favorites".... with all due respect... those "favorites" had way too much freedom. I can't think of the old time moderator over there? Forgot his handle... but he can f### off. I questioned the integrity of a post by someone... and I was banned. Never verbally went off on anyone. Never humiliated anyone. I was banned because I hurt the feelings of his friend. Plain and simple. They can stick the website up their a##.
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                                                                • homie1975
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                                  • 15452

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I don't think this thread should have landed in the Saloon so quickly.

                                                                  Mods
                                                                  I disagree with your decision.

                                                                  What i said is relevant and topical.
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                                                                  • Eddy Munny
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 08-13-13
                                                                    • 15767

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                    I don't think this thread should have landed in the Saloon so quickly.

                                                                    Mods
                                                                    I disagree with your decision.

                                                                    What i said is relevant and topical.
                                                                    Well hot diggity dog, you got this little number moved back to PT. Color me impressed. I know how these things work, I've seen the day soaps as a child. You sleep with the right people and their power rubs off a bit...

                                                                    Which begs the question, who are you bangin' to get that kinda pull? Optional? Nasher? Stealthy Burrito?

                                                                    Please do not get upset or unruly. It is just a question.
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                                                                    • Otters27
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 07-14-07
                                                                      • 30750

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                      Here is what happened. 25 years ago when forums started posters where 25 years younger, don't laugh yet. The primary bettors in forums were guys in this demographic 35 years to 60 years old. Now after 25 years these people are 60 - 85 years old (most likely half of them dead as gamblers are fat, drink a lot and smoke and sit all day watching screens and never exercise).

                                                                      When the forums where big in 2005-2010 the forums didn't invest in attracting young members as their only concern was to maximize profits from their current demographic (35-60). As posters kept dying or retiring there was no new blood replacing them and here we are where we are now.

                                                                      When I was a teenager my dad would take me to the racetrack or taught me how to gamble with his local. I would ask questions about spreads, totals, etc to learn. Now how many of you in this forum who have children are teaching them about sports gambling? If you don't teach the new generation how to gamble then the forums will eventually die as kids now have so many other hobbies like Tik Tok, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.

                                                                      That's my two cents.
                                                                      Ya. No young people are going to do forums. All tiki tok shit
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                                                                      • homie1975
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                                        • 15452

                                                                        #70
                                                                        in general, the more the traffic the better it is.

                                                                        how do we get traffic up ?
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