Shooting at Elementary School in Texas

**The Kraken** · 05-26-22, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

That makes too much sense, so they won't do it.

Instead, they will pass background checks, which mass shooters can pass.

Add in take a gun safety course prior to purchasing any firearm. Not all shootings are pre-planned, some are spur of the moment. Put as many road blocks up as reasonably possible that prevent someone from buying a gun at 11am and killing people at lunch break.

No reason society should shoulder the burden of every tom, dick and harry wanting to own a gun for "safety" (which is absolutely ironic) unless they're trained to carry that weapon.

Worried about your safety folks, go eat a salad. That gun you own is more likely to kill you than to save your life.

**slayer14** · 05-26-22, 03:07 PM

If a country wanted to invad USA the government could easily supply weapons to its citizens. I think the guns should be handed in now.

**slayer14** · 05-26-22, 03:09 PM

Its ridiculous the coward cops never done anything for 40 minutes

**pavyracer** · 05-26-22, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Well, people certainly would have heard that and had a chance to respond quicker.

You can't just shoot a lock and the door automatically opens. That only happens in the movies.

What do you think school doors are made of? I design schools for a living and I know what materials the doors are made of. You can blast the door with an AR-15 or AK-47 very easily.

**edawg** · 05-26-22, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

Its ridiculous the coward cops never done anything for 40 minutes

And they will still have gun protection along with the politicians, judges, and dictators trying to enslave you.

**slayer14** · 05-26-22, 03:17 PM

21 children lives are not going down in vain some massive changes have to be made to USA gun policy.

**Kermit** · 05-26-22, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

What do you think school doors are made of? I design schools for a living and I know what materials the doors are made of. You can blast the door with an AR-15 or AK-47 very easily.

And it's going to probably make noise, right? He could have probably smashed or shot a window as as well. Do you see what I am getting at? People would have heard the noise and could have reacted sooner than when he casually strolled into their classroom and began shooting.

**Kermit** · 05-26-22, 03:27 PM

Well, here we go.

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**Kermit** · 05-26-22, 03:33 PM

Just read that the husband of one of the teachers has also died. Sounds like it was a heart attack. I cannot imagine the stress these families are going through.

Husband of slain teacher dies ‘of grief,’ family confirms

Family says Joe Garcia died, asked for prayers

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/26/husband-of-slain-teacher-dies-of-grief-family-confirms/

**The Kraken** · 05-26-22, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

21 children lives are not going down in vain some massive changes have to be made to USA gun policy.

Nothing significant will change

Just like it didn't change after the Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora theater, Sandy Hook, Orlando nightclub, Las Vegas concert, Parkland High School, El Paso Wal-Mart mass shootings

Those kids died in vain so a bunch of insecure adults can continue to carry a gun they'll never use

**Snowball** · 05-26-22, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

Its ridiculous the coward cops never done anything for 40 minutes

naw. it's a good thing they didn't charge in. that saved lives.
read about it...

Border Patrol agents saw taking down Uvalde gunman as 'suicide' mission

**b1slickguy** · 05-26-22, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

Its ridiculous the coward cops never done anything for 40 minutes

A few of them went in after their own kids before the shooter was taken out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a Texas DPS Lieutenant telling a local station that some officers breached the school to get their own children BEFORE the shooter was taken down. <a href="https://t.co/BrvS4sCqp6">pic.twitter.com/BrvS4sCqp6</a></p>— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) <a href="https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1529808809719480320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >May 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**bigtymer56** · 05-26-22, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Nothing significant will change

Just like it didn't change after the Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora theater, Sandy Hook, Orlando nightclub, Las Vegas concert, Parkland High School, El Paso Wal-Mart mass shootings

Those kids died in vain so a bunch of insecure adults can continue to carry a gun they'll never use

Dont worry Kraken...just have to wait till like 2050 for significant change, when all the kids that have lived through this are middle aged and have positions of power.

**Git Lo** · 05-26-22, 04:02 PM

Looking like a real ACAB moment is brewing.

**Kermit** · 05-26-22, 04:19 PM

Good old Obama getting buried.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brah, this ain't it. Little kids slaughtered at school is not the equivalent of Floyd dying after resisting arrest while high. <a href="https://t.co/RYQBzvJpnN">https://t.co/RYQBzvJpnN</a></p>— Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1529582758653304837?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-26-22, 04:46 PM

Dems all respond like how Al Sharpton used to...

quick on the draw.

Where has AL been lately? Has he given up?

Obama is an annoying POS.

**pavyracer** · 05-26-22, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

And it's going to probably make noise, right? He could have probably smashed or shot a window as as well. Do you see what I am getting at? People would have heard the noise and could have reacted sooner than when he casually strolled into their classroom and began shooting.

If there was a law in place that wouldn't allow an 18 year old that never owned guns before to buy 2 military grade assault weapons with no background checks this wouldn't have happened.

Quit blaming the school door. The school door didn't cause this tragedy.

**Kermit** · 05-26-22, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If there was a law in place that wouldn't allow an 18 year old that never owned guns before to buy 2 military grade assault weapons with no background checks this wouldn't have happened.

Quit blaming the school door. The school door didn't cause this tragedy.

The worst mass school shooting in history didn't happen with any military grade assault weapons.

And it's not even that. What if the cops are chasing some criminal and they decide to enter a school? The last place that you want that person to go and hide(or possibly take hostages) is in a school. There are kids getting shot in schools in the inner cities in the cafeteria during lunch by people that don't even go to that school. Schools should always be locked once classes begin.

You take guns away, and some sick fukker will sit outside of a school and wait until after school ends and the street fills with kids and then mow them down with a U-haul van.

Personally, I don't think anyone needs to have (or should be able to buy) an AR-15, but that isn't going to solve this problem.

Anyone trained to shoot handguns can do just as much damage with one in each hand.

We're arguing over AR-15s and the large majority of gun murders are with hand guns.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by VeggieDog

WTF are you talking about? No resources? There are a million government programs to house, feed, and educate people.

and those fukks want to cut every social program out there. Why? Because they don't give a shit about the masses. They only care about the lobbyist lining their pockets.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

This is so foul.

People have been killing each other since the beginning of time but WHEN THE FUKK have you seen 1 person wipe out dozens of little kids in a few minutes? Their bodies so mutilated that their own parents could not identify them because even their c a foelothes and shoes were so shot up they were unrecognizable. FUKK YOU for even trying to compare a fukking rock with these death machines. Our forefathers never, ever imagined one person could inflict so much damage. Our forefathers had muskets and were looking to defend themselves and their country against a foe across the Atlantic. Never did they imagine that their own people would be gunning down other citizens.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

They love to hide behind that 2nd amendment bullshit. why not get a spine and admit you love that nra money.

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Unfortunately, these gunmen are only killing soft target little children. If they were gunning down congressmen and women, they would pass something immediately.

**Thor4140** · 05-26-22, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

The callous, insensitive nature of Biden and O'Rourke floored me. They're two notches below ambulance-chasing attorneys.

Or maybe just maybe he is pissed the fuk off like most Americans. How many shootings till you nitwits stop falling for programmed talking points.

**Thor4140** · 05-26-22, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Unfortunately, these gunmen are only killing soft target little children. If they were gunning down congressmen and women, they would pass something immediately.

Yep just lik their precious Supreme Court got a little heat on them and they quickly ran to protect them. In minutes and if that Supreme Court leaned left there would not have been one republican vote just like the domestic terrorism vote.

**The Kraken** · 05-26-22, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

The worst mass school shooting in history didn't happen with any military grade assault weapons.

And it's not even that. What if the cops are chasing some criminal and they decide to enter a school? The last place that you want that person to go and hide(or possibly take hostages) is in a school. There are kids getting shot in schools in the inner cities in the cafeteria during lunch by people that don't even go to that school. Schools should always be locked once classes begin.

You take guns away, and some sick fukker will sit outside of a school and wait until after school ends and the street fills with kids and then mow them down with a U-haul van.

Personally, I don't think anyone needs to have (or should be able to buy) an AR-15, but that isn't going to solve this problem.

Anyone trained to shoot handguns can do just as much damage with one in each hand.

We're arguing over AR-15s and the large majority of gun murders are with hand guns.

You bring up a good point

Gun legislation should be broad to encompass most weapons. Not bans but make it harder for people to buy them, yes. There is already mass proliferation of guns in America, we could afford to reverse course a bit

And yes, AR'a a specific challenge and problem as they were designed and marketed to soldiers in war, for mass killing. And thats exactly what they're doing, unfortunately just not on the battlefield

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

Obviously everyone would be a lot safer if the 2nd amendment was simply ignored but the same can be said about the fourth amendment as well as the first one. Eliminate all rights and freedoms and safety will increase; China is the perfect example.

Do you have any data that by eliminating rights/freedom that that increases safety? You do know that there are other democratic countries that have sensible gun laws and they do not have gun murders like this country. This country is the fukking wild wild west. EVERYONE has a gun and very few even know how to use them. Then half this country is fukking crazy and here we are. Let's cut to the chase. Most citizens are not mentally fit to have a gun. Many US citizens are so full of rage and hate. They hate their miserable lives, they hate that they're broke, don't have a job, thinking about suicide. They don't care about their own lives, so they don't give a fukk about your life. How do you stop someone that doesn't care about dying?

You are a dumb ass if you push open gun laws. If you have a gun, great, good. But why in the hell would you want your neighbor to have one? You do know statistically, you are 1,000 times more likely to die from a gun from someone you know or yourself instead of a stranger. Most all my neighbors have guns. Many are responsible. But I know there are some that are not as responsible and some are not all there. Some have kids that are all not there. What happens when these people snap and yes people will snap. What do you think happens then? Just look at the evening news and you will get your answer. The first 20 minutes of a 30 minute news is all about gun violence in your city. It's every damn day of the week. Why?

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

You could buy a M1 Carbine through the mail in the 1960s. Semi-auto, high capacity magazine, quick change magazine, all similar characteristic as the AR

Not in 1994 to 2003... and it would take at least a minute to fire off 30 rounds. Apples to oranges...

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

If outlawing guns worked, Chicago would be the safest place in the US.

Stop this bullshit take. If Chicago was on an island, I'd buy what you're pedaling but guns are easily brought into the city from neighboring states.

Plus, take away gang bangers killing each other and Chicago is one of the safest cities in the country. The crime that takes place in Chicago is concentrated in just a few areas. There's 2 sides of Chicago. One is the incredible city, awesome food, sports, shopping, outdoors and there's the handful of neighborhoods plagued by poverty, drugs and crime. All you've seen and heard are the few bad spots. Chicago's murder rate is much lower than most other cities. Chicago is way down on the list. Trying to equate sensible gun laws to Chicago is absolutely stupid. Stop it.

Conde Naste Traveler has voted Chicago “Best Big City in the U.S.” two years in a row

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Many countries have mental illness issues, many countries have kids who play violent video games, many countries have access to social media but… Only one country has mass shootings every week, can you guess which one?

These dumb fukks know that more guns equate to more people shot by guns but they think they are more free if everyone has guns. They think it's okay for young kids to shoot assault rifles at a gun range. They are so mentally stuck on their guns that they can't think straight. One day it will come back to them. Someone they love will be murdered by someone with a gun. Maybe, just maybe then, they will start questioning why so many stupid people have easy access to guns.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-22, 06:49 PM

Must buy a gun and protect self, property and others! You don't go to a gun fight with just your fists. End of story!

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by GT21Megatron

Its just like beer dude. If kids want it bad enough they know how to get their hands on it

You have to be 21 to buy a beer. You can get a gun here in Houston, as easy as buying candy.

Most of these psychos would not go out of their way to get a gun to mass shoot people. But because it's so easy, they can do it. Imagine if this guy was denied purchasing those guns, where was he going to go next? Imagine if there were red flag laws in place. Now law enforcement receive a tip that this guy is trying to buy guns. Maybe we should monitor him a bit closer the next few weeks, just in case.

Ohio use to have a cooling off period. Not sure they still have it? You had to wait at least 3 or 4 days to actually pick up the gun. You had to pay upfront and wait because statistics showed that most murders were of passion, where someone said they were going to kill someone and goes out, gets a gun and kills them. The cooling off period lowered shootings tremendously because people had time to really cool off and think.

**The Kraken** · 05-26-22, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Must buy a gun and protect self, property and others! You don't go to a gun fight with just your fists. End of story!

Such a pussy

Id hate my life if I was so scared of the world I thought I need a gun to survive the day

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 05-26-22, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Do you have any data that by eliminating rights/freedom that that increases safety? You do know that there are other democratic countries that have sensible gun laws and they do not have gun murders like this country. This country is the fukking wild wild west. EVERYONE has a gun and very few even know how to use them. Then half this country is fukking crazy and here we are. Let's cut to the chase. Most citizens are not mentally fit to have a gun. Many US citizens are so full of rage and hate. They hate their miserable lives, they hate that they're broke, don't have a job, thinking about suicide. They don't care about their own lives, so they don't give a fukk about your life. How do you stop someone that doesn't care about dying?

You are a dumb ass if you push open gun laws. If you have a gun, great, good. But why in the hell would you want your neighbor to have one? You do know statistically, you are 1,000 times more likely to die from a gun from someone you know or yourself instead of a stranger. Most all my neighbors have guns. Many are responsible. But I know there are some that are not as responsible and some are not all there. Some have kids that are all not there. What happens when these people snap and yes people will snap. What do you think happens then? Just look at the evening news and you will get your answer. The first 20 minutes of a 30 minute news is all about gun violence in your city. It's every damn day of the week. Why?

Don't need data, it's coomon sense. A lot of what you posted is true (the 1,000 times is not) but if you're going to eliminate the 2A because "times have changed" then no part of the Constitution is safe and you might as well rip it up and turn us into China. It's unfortunate but it's a fact: it's the price we pay for freedom.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

You are trying to tell a bible story but you need to get your story right. NOWHERE in the bible did it say that Cain used a rock. All these bible toting, hypocrites love to spew scripture but never really read the book. Pathetic.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-22, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Such a pussy

Id hate my life if I was so scared of the world I thought I need a gun to survive the day

More like I Love my life and must protect it at all costs! Come at me bro and see what happens!

**Mac4Lyfe** · 05-26-22, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

get members of this church to work security at the schools

good guys with guns+The Lord Jesus Christ=bravery=dead bad guys burning in hell

This kinda proves the point. If this church shooter had an AR15, he would have gunned down all the parishioners before they could shoot back. It looked like he had a shotgun. Imagine an AR15, dozens of people would have been killed. I have no problem with people carrying pistols but there is no logical reason why people should have assault rifles. Get rid of them now.