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  • DISTROYA
    SBR MVP
    • 04-26-12
    • 2911

    #1
    This is exactly why this country has turned to shit
    Awful debate as usual.
    Blaming and criticizing each other non stop.
    Not answering any question directly.
    Neither have any concrete plan whatsoever or any issue facing the nation.
    Can't wait till the next one. Someone off these 2 freaks please.
  • 7deuceoff$uit
    SBR MVP
    • 04-08-16
    • 2212

    #2
    Is this the first debate you've ever watched?
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    • BrickJames
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-05-11
      • 9749

      #3
      Trump 2020 get on board or get ran over.
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      • BOA12
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-19-12
        • 20622

        #4
        Originally posted by DISTROYA
        Awful debate as usual.
        Blaming and criticizing each other non stop.
        Not answering any question directly.
        Neither have any concrete plan whatsoever or any issue facing the nation.
        Can't wait till the next one. Someone off these 2 freaks please.
        Mothers Boy, Proud Christian, might Right, the sinking ship?
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        • od120731
          SBR Sharp
          • 11-28-18
          • 255

          #5
          Are debates ever good on the other hand?
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          • pologq
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-07-12
            • 19899

            #6
            sadly debates never do what they are supposed to do
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65565

              #7
              Originally posted by od120731
              Are debates ever good on the other hand?
              The last good one one was when I was a kid.
              Ron Reagan.
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              • StackinGreen
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-09-10
                • 12140

                #8
                The media/moderator/culture currently gives Trump only one option: aggression. What's more? It works. Fight and win or roll over and die while the overton window shifts to normalizing pedophilia.
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                • MinnesotaFats
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-18-10
                  • 14758

                  #9
                  It's the culture

                  Today's left is so far removed from the realities of the world, let alone the realities of US domestic life

                  The party exists solely to redistribute other peoples money and create political capital out of the insignificance of causes important to extreme minority groups (ie incarcerated blacks, gay marriage, transgender rights, homosexuality in military, bathroom rights, marijuana, abortion)

                  It doesn't serve a purpose preserving the rights and standard of living of the majority of working Americans or majority of States in the Union....restricted voting rights limited to those who own a stake in the Country (deeds) is the only way to have a civil dialog.

                  To continue believing that the policies of the Left are anything short of ransom or robbery by political force is insane- the party cannot exist without taking the money of the constituents of the other party. This is relatively new to American politics....and it's a disaster for the culture, and future of America.
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                  • BOA12
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-19-12
                    • 20622

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                    It's the culture

                    Today's left is so far removed from the realities of the world, let alone the realities of US domestic life

                    The party exists solely to redistribute other peoples money and create political capital out of the insignificance of causes important to extreme minority groups (ie incarcerated blacks, gay marriage, transgender rights, homosexuality in military, bathroom rights, marijuana, abortion)

                    It doesn't serve a purpose preserving the rights and standard of living of the majority of working Americans or majority of States in the Union....restricted voting rights limited to those who own a stake in the Country (deeds) is the only way to have a civil dialog.

                    To continue believing that the policies of the Left are anything short of ransom or robbery by political force is insane- the party cannot exist without taking the money of the constituents of the other party. This is relatively new to American politics....and it's a disaster for the culture, and future of America.
                    Jim Crow Your solution? MAGA
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                    • BOA12
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-19-12
                      • 20622

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stevenash
                      The last good one one was when I was a kid.
                      Ron Reagan.
                      H bitch, State Right advocate, slept W/one eye open every night in H's WH. Fear mongering tool.
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                      • paulll
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 06-05-19
                        • 130

                        #12
                        Trump hooliganized a lot, if he had let Biden finish at least one sentence, it would have been clear that grandfather was already quite mad, while both lost, but there was clearly two on one
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65565

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BOA12
                          H bitch, State Right advocate, slept W/one eye open every night in H's WH. Fear mongering tool.
                          I get it, you are a left leaning liberal.
                          All good, best of luck to 'ya.
                          It's obvious we don't see eye to eye on politics but like I said, it's all good.
                          I prefer it if everybody didn't see eye to eye with me anyway, what fun would that be?
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                          • BOA12
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-19-12
                            • 20622

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            I get it, you are a left leaning liberal.
                            All good, best of luck to 'ya.
                            It's obvious we don't see eye to eye on politics but like I said, it's all good.
                            I prefer it if everybody didn't see eye to eye with me anyway, what fun would that be?
                            I'm an Anti evil backing American. U back voter suppression? It's Ok nash, said it B4, guys like U why I'm here. You the SBR Buffer now? Good choice.
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65565

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BOA12
                              I'm an Anti evil backing American. U back voter suppression? It's Ok nash, said it B4, guys like U why I'm here. You the SBR Buffer now? Good choice.
                              What can I tell you, I'm a Ron Reagan Republican.
                              I'm here for the baseball though, not here for guys like you.
                              And no, I'm not a buffer for anything.

                              Doesn't change the fact I still will die for your right to express your opinions though.
                              Like I said before, it's all good.
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                              • PharaohUB
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-23-07
                                • 4865

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                It's the culture

                                Today's left is so far removed from the realities of the world, let alone the realities of US domestic life

                                The party exists solely to redistribute other peoples money and create political capital out of the insignificance of causes important to extreme minority groups (ie incarcerated blacks, gay marriage, transgender rights, homosexuality in military, bathroom rights, marijuana, abortion)

                                It doesn't serve a purpose preserving the rights and standard of living of the majority of working Americans or majority of States in the Union....restricted voting rights limited to those who own a stake in the Country (deeds) is the only way to have a civil dialog.

                                To continue believing that the policies of the Left are anything short of ransom or robbery by political force is insane- the party cannot exist without taking the money of the constituents of the other party. This is relatively new to American politics....and it's a disaster for the culture, and future of America.
                                Very well said, but I think most democrats mean well they just are not very smart. They focus on emotions and what feels right, rather than focusing on what is actually best for country as a whole in the long term.

                                Running around "fighting racism" "feels right and good" to them. But really what they are doing is creating more divide and more racists. The exact opposite of what they say they are trying to achieve.

                                Giving free money and incentives to single poor parents "feels right and good" to them, because shouldn't all kids get the same opportunity? Realistically you make it so poor people don't have much to lose when they have a child, where as middle class people have to make very tough decisions as it will impact them very hard financially. This incentivizes poor people to have more children than middle class, and now you have more kids growing up in bad situations, which is what they were trying to solve in the first place.

                                Most (not all) liberal policies have consequences contrary to what they are trying to achieve, but liberals lack the ability to use deductive reasoning. It's why most young people are liberals. It's something you learn with experience and age. Not to mention it's easy to throw other peoples money at problems, even if it's being used inefficiently if you think a few bucks might trickle down to you.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65565

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                  Very well said, but I think most democrats mean well
                                  Yes, I am on record of saying some of the democrat backed programs are sound.
                                  I am not a big fan of their tax and spend methods though.
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                                  • BOA12
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-19-12
                                    • 20622

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    What can I tell you, I'm a Ron Reagan Republican.
                                    I'm here for the baseball though, not here for guys like you.
                                    And no, I'm not a buffer for anything.

                                    Doesn't change the fact I still will die for your right to express your opinions though.
                                    Like I said before, it's all good.
                                    Fair enough. Will trump die for your right to express your opinion? I'll leave the saloon W/ that, not here for EWE guys, either. Adios, nash, here for the horses.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65565

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BOA12
                                      Fair enough. Will trump die for your right to express your opinion? I'll leave the saloon W/ that, not here for EWE guys, either. Adios, nash, here for the horses.
                                      Not a Trump nor a Biden fan.
                                      There's a solid Indie running for state rep here in Ct. I am backing though.

                                      Best of luck fella.
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                                      • Auto Donk
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-03-13
                                        • 43558

                                        #20
                                        I thought this was why:


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                                        • BOA12
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-19-12
                                          • 20622

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          Not a Trump nor a Biden fan.
                                          There's a solid Indie running for state rep here in Ct. I am backing though.

                                          Best of luck fella.
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                                          • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-10-15
                                            • 3955

                                            #22
                                            are we all voting for jojo jorgeson now?
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                                            • dlowilly
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-09-16
                                              • 13862

                                              #23
                                              The winner of that debate was Kanye

                                              Seriously though, Trump fuked up and I’m sure by now he knows he fuked up

                                              If Biden’s handlers wheel him out for another one u can bet Trump will have corrected his strategical errors, Biden will look like the corrupt career politician he is, the odds will even out, and the election will once again show polls are worth about as much as sound investment advice to a welfare queen.
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                                              • mynameismud
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-13-12
                                                • 5461

                                                #24
                                                This is another case of “the lesser or two evils”. Four years ago Clinton was the lesser, this year it’s Biden. This is the greatest crounty on the planet and these two fukk are the only ones left standing. Says a lot about our society.
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                                                • DISTROYA
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-26-12
                                                  • 2911

                                                  #25
                                                  A-M-E-N mynameismud.
                                                  I am not left/right dont even know WTF all that shit is about. But watching these guys made me even more depressed not a SINGLE question answered based on content even remotely, 6th graders wouldve done much better in debate class.
                                                  Dumb and dumber.
                                                  7deuce, no it isnt the first debate Ive watched. Clearly this is the most out of touch and pathetic attempt at one dont you agree?
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                                                  • MinnesotaFats
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-18-10
                                                    • 14758

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BOA12
                                                    Jim Crow Your solution? MAGA
                                                    It's not Jim Crow, it's common sense.

                                                    Is it fair to allow direct recipients of public welfare or subsidies to vote on the matter?

                                                    It it fair to allow those who do not get directly taxed on their ownership interests in a community to vote on the impact to those that do?

                                                    This is the disconnect in politics today. A smaller and smaller portion of the populous is actually invested in the community funding the public treasury and a larger and larger portion is drawing benefits from the public treasury....

                                                    See how this ends?
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                                                    • dlowilly
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-09-16
                                                      • 13862

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mynameismud
                                                      This is another case of “the lesser or two evils”. Four years ago Clinton was the lesser, this year it’s Biden. This is the greatest crounty on the planet and these two fukk are the only ones left standing. Says a lot about our society.
                                                      Biden is the lesser of two evils? No

                                                      He is the personification of Washington evil. Corruption for personal gain, swampy ineffectiveness, all talk and no action or the opposite action.
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                                                      • slewfan
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-01-15
                                                        • 15930

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                        Biden is the lesser of two evils? No

                                                        He is the personification of Washington evil. Corruption for personal gain, swampy ineffectiveness, all talk and no action or the opposite action.
                                                        This is truly stated. Trumps Presidential record proves his effectiveness and leadership. Bidens record proves his inability to govern in every aspect of his career.
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                                                        • PAULYPOKER
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 12-06-08
                                                          • 36581

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          The last good one one was when I was a kid.
                                                          Ron Reagan.
                                                          That's because he was paid to lie his entire life Bro..
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                                                          • BrickJames
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-05-11
                                                            • 9749

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            The last good one one was when I was a kid.
                                                            Ron Reagan.
                                                            God I wish we could go back to the 80's, greatest decade ever! Plenty of good cheap cocaine floating around, 12% interest rates, blacks going to jail where they belong and not a cell phone in sight.

                                                            The kids today will never understand how good it once was.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48383

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                              It's not Jim Crow, it's common sense.

                                                              Is it fair to allow direct recipients of public welfare or subsidies to vote on the matter?

                                                              It it fair to allow those who do not get directly taxed on their ownership interests in a community to vote on the impact to those that do?


                                                              This is the disconnect in politics today. A smaller and smaller portion of the populous is actually invested in the community funding the public treasury and a larger and larger portion is drawing benefits from the public treasury....

                                                              See how this ends?
                                                              So you’re saying Trump shouldn’t be allowed to vote?
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                                                              • DISTROYA
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-26-12
                                                                • 2911

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BrickJames
                                                                God I wish we could go back to the 80's, greatest decade ever! Plenty of good cheap cocaine floating around, 12% interest rates, blacks going to jail where they belong and not a cell phone in sight.

                                                                The kids today will never understand how good it once was.
                                                                And the NBA did not suck ass

                                                                LAL-BOS-PHIL... good shit
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                                                                • StackinGreen
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                                  • 12140

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                  It's the culture

                                                                  Today's left is so far removed from the realities of the world, let alone the realities of US domestic life

                                                                  The party exists solely to redistribute other peoples money and create political capital out of the insignificance of causes important to extreme minority groups (ie incarcerated blacks, gay marriage, transgender rights, homosexuality in military, bathroom rights, marijuana, abortion)

                                                                  It doesn't serve a purpose preserving the rights and standard of living of the majority of working Americans or majority of States in the Union....restricted voting rights limited to those who own a stake in the Country (deeds) is the only way to have a civil dialog.

                                                                  To continue believing that the policies of the Left are anything short of ransom or robbery by political force is insane- the party cannot exist without taking the money of the constituents of the other party. This is relatively new to American politics....and it's a disaster for the culture, and future of America.
                                                                  Spot on.
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The big picture is that you have to have a skin in the game society, which is why the Founders had very limited voting rights and why the Constitution in its original form is genius, save a few frailties. But the few, powerful elites that can change things over time due to myriad factors, know that most people are manipulable and not that smart, which only matters if you can somehow allow them the ability to vote. This of course also incentivizes things like buying voters, importing voters, promising things from redistribution (all Democrat tactics) that can last and entrench politicians, but do not allow for a sustainable society. Multiculturalism without christianity or another virtuous religion (we don't have one anymore) can never work for many reasons. It's not a coincidence 3rd worlders are being imported and as a result, do 3rd world things --- but note that this creates an atmosphere where the elites can control to a much higher degree - hook them on the government and divide the populace = another Dem strategy.

                                                                    If you don't have a majority and an identity, you can't last, and you definitely can't produce or create a high standard of living if you lose the European majority. This is a known historical fact of life, to any honest analysis.
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                                                                    • BigDofBA
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-30-09
                                                                      • 19313

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by od120731
                                                                      Are debates ever good on the other hand?
                                                                      A debate has never been an utter disaster like that was. It was an embarrassing.

                                                                      I'm a registered Republican and have voted Republican in every election but I really feel like neither party suits me. Each side keeps getting more and more extreme. Instead of people just disagreeing on policy, it's turned into this. If you vote Republican you're a racist. If you vote Democrat you're a communist. It's a joke

                                                                      I didn't like Trump and it would have been the first time I ever voted Democrat last election but the Democrats threw Hillary at me. Now they're firing Biden out there....like wth. How do we not have better candidates? As for Trump, I'm not one of these crazy people that hates people that vote for someone different than me but these are some of the reasons I think he is kind of a moron.

                                                                      - Suggested nuking a hurricane to stop it
                                                                      - Altered a NOAA weather map with a sharpie because he incorrectly said a hurricane was headed toward Bama
                                                                      - Suggested to cleans the body by ingesting bleach...
                                                                      - Suggested hitting the inside of the body with UV rays
                                                                      - Said the virus was much more dangerous than the flu and airborne in February....then tells the public it's a hoax
                                                                      - Fires anyone that disagrees with him
                                                                      - Pays nothing in taxes because he is a failing business man
                                                                      - Claims America first but pays more in taxes to other countries

                                                                      Then you have a list of respected Republicans and Generals that have said how horrible he is

                                                                      - Colin Powell
                                                                      - John McCain
                                                                      - George Bush
                                                                      - Mitt Romney
                                                                      - General Mattis

                                                                      I mean, people are going to rationalize and make excuses for his comments. "He didn't mean this". "He didn't mean that". It's fine. If you believe that whatever. There are just too many things for me to get over. BUTTTTTTT......the freaking Dems give us Biden as the alternative. WTF.

                                                                      I really thought Trump was a successful business man four years ago but now it's obvious he isn't by his massive losses and even his inability to get a gaming license because of financial issues. There is a reason the Trump Hotel in Vegas doesn't have a casino in it...
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