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  • WillyBoy
    SBR MVP
    • 06-19-18
    • 1988

    #1
    It’s The Brain-Dead Apocalypse!!!!
    Fascinating to watch the brain-dead, FOX-watchers, striving to upend hard facts, like the ever-increasing Covid 19 death numbers. “Look at the flu!!!” they scream. “Why have common flu deaths been so low, and have now almost disappeared?!!!!” Shaking their empty heads, sadly, they all agree, “It’s all the big hoax, a sham,” and, along with the orange blimp, blame the media, the Democrats, the Deep State, the WHO, the Chinese, and Obama (who probably started it all).

    Well, infections and deaths from the common flu was minimized this year by widespread social-distancing and lockdowns, due to Covid 19 fears; and deaths due to the common flu have nearly disappeared because the flu season peaks in February, and is gone by May. Now, that’s a hard concept to get a half a brain around, but it’s a true, real and hard fact, not the bizarre propaganda that issues from FOX. Of course, never letting a fact get in the way of a simple, easy-to-grasp, falsehood – the FOX News diehard philosophy – when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans, they’ll have some new lie to sell to their noodle-headed audience.

    Always up for a laugh, I look forward to it.
  • PAULYPOKER
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-06-08
    • 36581

    #2
    Just posted this in the CORONA the Math! thread
    as it's perfectly in tune with this thread......


    "
    I say open the flood gates and let the people get their COVID 19 Russian Roulette style.....

    Only the stupid naysayers will die.......

    Now I don't care who you are as that'd be a great start........

    We the good guys are confident in our social distancing skills...........

    Knock on wood if you're with me! #1378"

    Now,
    To make it clear, I'm not a liberal/democrat
    or leftest as I am smart enough to know politics are for the weak minded......

    I'm a FUKKIN REALIST!
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    • fried cheese
      SBR MVP
      • 09-17-13
      • 4461

      #3
      Originally posted by WillyBoy
      Fascinating to watch the brain-dead, FOX-watchers, striving to upend hard facts, like the ever-increasing Covid 19 death numbers. “Look at the flu!!!” they scream. “Why have common flu deaths been so low, and have now almost disappeared?!!!!” Shaking their empty heads, sadly, they all agree, “It’s all the big hoax, a sham,” and, along with the orange blimp, blame the media, the Democrats, the Deep State, the WHO, the Chinese, and Obama (who probably started it all).

      Well, infections and deaths from the common flu was minimized this year by widespread social-distancing and lockdowns, due to Covid 19 fears; and deaths due to the common flu have nearly disappeared because the flu season peaks in February, and is gone by May. Now, that’s a hard concept to get a half a brain around, but it’s a true, real and hard fact, not the bizarre propaganda that issues from FOX. Of course, never letting a fact get in the way of a simple, easy-to-grasp, falsehood – the FOX News diehard philosophy – when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans, they’ll have some new lie to sell to their noodle-headed audience.

      Always up for a laugh, I look forward to it.
      when the cdc estimated 80k died of the flu in one winter no one cared. why? because 100k deaths is nothing. you have an extra .03% chance of dying. thats about the difference of how dangerous living in 2019 was compared to 2016 in the usa.

      if you want to argue that the corona virus is dangerous then throw out the million plus estimates.
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      • Auto Donk
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-03-13
        • 43558

        #4
        i thought this was a new harrison ford "flying drunk and lookin' to score" thread............


        how long til video of the latest incident is released?


        who can forget Drunk Indy's "mishap" at John Wayne?

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        • WillyBoy
          SBR MVP
          • 06-19-18
          • 1988

          #5
          Originally posted by fried cheese
          when the cdc estimated 80k died of the flu in one winter no one cared. why? because 100k deaths is nothing. you have an extra .03% chance of dying. thats about the difference of how dangerous living in 2019 was compared to 2016 in the usa.

          if you want to argue that the corona virus is dangerous then throw out the million plus estimates.
          Always good to hear from the brain-dead; in this case, from one whose mental disability makes it impossible to grasp scientific truths – like the differences between the common flu and Covid 19. The most important of which is that the common flu is seasonal; every year it ENDS, in terms of infections and deaths, as warmer weather impacts its virulence. It ENDS! I can’t think of a simpler way to say this. It tails off from February, and ENDS in May – by which time infections and deaths are minimal.

          Covid 19, apparently, has no season and has shown no sign of ending – and I keep looking for that promise of “flattening the curve”. Social distancing and widespread lockdowns have impacted its spread, but it’s not disappearing – it’s still infecting and killing thousands every day. It’s lethality, as compared to the common flu, is not known (it’s worth noting that the comment “you have an extra .03% chance of dying” is pure FOX News fiction), and can’t be known until Covid 19 has run its course – which may be another 1 to 2 years; and this is the reason why it’s too soon to “throw out the million plus estimates”.

          All that said, and speaking on behalf of the human species, such half-witted comments and outright lies, if they lead the brain-dead into high-risk behavior, is a good thing. As they become more likely to be infected and die, the less likely they will reproduce – and the IQ of the human species, in general, can only be enhanced.

          Keep up the good work.
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          • PharaohUB
            SBR MVP
            • 01-23-07
            • 4865

            #6
            Anyone who thinks we should still stay quarantined at a national level is a moron and too dumb to understand complex issues. It's all just REEEEE people are dieing. Okay what about everything else that's happening? You steal a year of life from 99.97% of the population to save the 0.03% of the population 6 months of their life? Do you know math?
            Do you know that life expectancy is highly corerelated with wealth? You know how many lives are getting ruined financially right now? So fk them, right?
            What about the people not going into the doctors office for their checkups and won't catch that fatal disease in time?
            What about the possible long time psychological and health affects on people?
            Also what is YOUR ALTERNATIVE? You do realize we are going to get a spike no matter when we re-open, right? And there's literally no proof that waiting a few more months is going to improve our overall numbers, right?
            You've heard of herd immunity, right? You know a great way to build herd immunity. It's called let healthy people go about their lives while the at risk people stay locked in. It will actually be better for them in the long run and we will save lives.
            I can't think of one solid argument to stay closed. The only reasonable arugment you've ever had is not to overwhelm the hospitals, which that argument is gone at this pont. Hospitals are laying off poeple right now due ot lack of businesss.

            You're only repsonse is hurr durr people are dieing. Yeah, no shit. It's called a virus it kills poeple, whether or not we quarantine. And it will kill people whenever we re-open. You are just dealying the inevitable at what costs?

            Also those fkin numbers are so blown out of porportion and you'd be a moron to believe they are accurate.
            You do know that hospitals are for-profit, and they have a financial incentive to put down Covid, correct? NYC Mayor also has an incentive to encourage that behavior. It pulls money into his state from the federal government. You do know they are going back to heart attacks like six weeks ago and saying "Eh probably covid" and adding it to the numbers, right?

            It's funny that you think you are some brilliant mind to think "death bad". As if everybody else hasn't already figured that out, lol. "ME THINK DEATH BAD YOU DUMB YOU DONT KNOW THAT". Maybe other people are just capable about thinking about the issue at a deeper and more compassionate level to all of humans, and not just 0.03 % of them.
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            • fried cheese
              SBR MVP
              • 09-17-13
              • 4461

              #7
              Originally posted by WillyBoy
              It’s lethality, as compared to the common flu, is not known (it’s worth noting that the comment “you have an extra .03% chance of dying” is pure FOX News fiction), and can’t be known until Covid 19 has run its course – which may be another 1 to 2 years; and this is the reason why it’s too soon to “throw out the million plus estimates”.
              i dont watch fox news. you put out the number of 100k deaths not me. 100k extra deaths in a year translates into a extra .03% chance of dying for americans.
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              • Auto Donk
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-03-13
                • 43558

                #8
                Originally posted by fried cheese
                i dont watch fox news. you put out the number of 100k deaths not me. 100k extra deaths in a year translates into a extra .03% chance of dying for americans.
                cnn, abc, nbc, msnbc, cbs and dems/libs don't want dumbasses like the op and vitturd to focus on that FACT..........

                FACTS MATTER..... BUT NOT TO CNN NOR THE MSM.......

                corona response/numbers in the usa are a total hoax..........

                you have a better chance of harrison ford killing you in a plane crash than dying of coronavirus, unless your 85 yr old or older or live in a nyc nursing home.......
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                • WillyBoy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-19-18
                  • 1988

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PharaohUB
                  Anyone who thinks we should still stay quarantined at a national level is a moron and too dumb to understand complex issues. It's all just REEEEE people are dieing. Okay what about everything else that's happening? You steal a year of life from 99.97% of the population to save the 0.03% of the population 6 months of their life? Do you know math?
                  Do you know that life expectancy is highly corerelated with wealth? You know how many lives are getting ruined financially right now? So fk them, right?
                  What about the people not going into the doctors office for their checkups and won't catch that fatal disease in time?
                  What about the possible long time psychological and health affects on people?
                  Also what is YOUR ALTERNATIVE? You do realize we are going to get a spike no matter when we re-open, right? And there's literally no proof that waiting a few more months is going to improve our overall numbers, right?
                  You've heard of herd immunity, right? You know a great way to build herd immunity. It's called let healthy people go about their lives while the at risk people stay locked in. It will actually be better for them in the long run and we will save lives.
                  I can't think of one solid argument to stay closed. The only reasonable arugment you've ever had is not to overwhelm the hospitals, which that argument is gone at this pont. Hospitals are laying off poeple right now due ot lack of businesss.

                  You're only repsonse is hurr durr people are dieing. Yeah, no shit. It's called a virus it kills poeple, whether or not we quarantine. And it will kill people whenever we re-open. You are just dealying the inevitable at what costs?

                  Also those fkin numbers are so blown out of porportion and you'd be a moron to believe they are accurate.
                  You do know that hospitals are for-profit, and they have a financial incentive to put down Covid, correct? NYC Mayor also has an incentive to encourage that behavior. It pulls money into his state from the federal government. You do know they are going back to heart attacks like six weeks ago and saying "Eh probably covid" and adding it to the numbers, right?

                  It's funny that you think you are some brilliant mind to think "death bad". As if everybody else hasn't already figured that out, lol. "ME THINK DEATH BAD YOU DUMB YOU DONT KNOW THAT". Maybe other people are just capable about thinking about the issue at a deeper and more compassionate level to all of humans, and not just 0.03 % of them.
                  Okay, got your point – “DEATH GOOD”. Especially for the old, who are going die anyway, and the sooner they do, the better. And, sure, there’s huge economic downside to the widespread lockdown, and the longer it persists, the worse things will be.

                  However, on behalf of the old and at risk – Fk you. In fact, fk you very much – and I’ll take those extra 6 months you’d want to begrudge me. And, there is really nothing “inevitable” about a spike in infections and deaths following reopening. This effect could be minimized through a smarter approach than a half-witted, full-speed-ahead, reopening you suggest. It should be approached in the way it has in S. Korea, with targeted cluster testing. (Unless you subscribe to Limbaugh-Logic, which argues that “testing causes infection”, because the number of infections rise when testing occurs). The results in S. Korea are in-your-face proof that their approach has worked.

                  Also, you’re not the first, by any means, to suggest that hospitals and states have an incentive to inflate their Covid 19 deaths, that there’s a “financial incentive”; that it “pulls money…from the federal government”. Well, being a conspiracy buff myself, I’d like to hear what the hell your talking about. Given that the dead are no longer a cost item for hospitals, and are therefore a financial boon to hospitals, why would the feds give them anything. Out of sympathy? Think that Jared Kushner’s heart bleeds for the NY dead? I’m ready to believe anything, but there has to be some logic to it, and it has to come from some source other than FAUX news.
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                  • fried cheese
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-17-13
                    • 4461

                    #10
                    i read hospitals get 20% more money for corona virus patients. i think the money comes from the stimulus plan. hospitals are now able to count probable cases instead of just confirmed cases.
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                    • WillyBoy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-19-18
                      • 1988

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                      i dont watch fox news. you put out the number of 100k deaths not me. 100k extra deaths in a year translates into a extra .03% chance of dying for americans.
                      I said that "when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans" FAUX News will have a new lie, other than the common flu conspiracy they're currently spinning. And it doesn't take half a brain to see that, after a full year, deaths could 5 to 10 times that number. And, of course you don't watch FAUX News, you just channel them word for word. When you said you "just watch laura ingram" (sic), it was another of your fantasies. My bad.
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43558

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fried cheese
                        i read hospitals get 20% more money for corona virus patients. i think the money comes from the stimulus plan. hospitals are now able to count probable cases instead of just confirmed cases.
                        so willy sees COMMON FLU DEATHS SUDDENLY ENDING AND NOT in accordance with years of historical data showing no way in hell it would happen as claimed as "faux news".... guess he's the brain dead mother fukker he's referring to in his title in this thread.....

                        f'n brainwashed lib relying on cnn/msm/google/youtube for his bullshit narrative....

                        throw in free money to lie, and like someone said, shady piece of shit new yorkers like cuomo and de blasidiot will take it every time........

                        the msm/cnn/msnbc narrative is a huge crock of shit....
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                        • WillyBoy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-19-18
                          • 1988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fried cheese
                          i read hospitals get 20% more money for corona virus patients. i think the money comes from the stimulus plan. hospitals are now able to count probable cases instead of just confirmed cases.
                          Where did you read this? Not looking for an argument. As I've said, I'm ready to believe nearly any conspiracy, but I need to see both the facts, as well some logic to it. That some hospitals, strapped for resources, get money from the Fed is hardly surprising or suspicious, but if it's tied to their Covid-19 reporting, then I'd be interested.
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                          • fried cheese
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-17-13
                            • 4461

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WillyBoy
                            Where did you read this? Not looking for an argument. As I've said, I'm ready to believe nearly any conspiracy, but I need to see both the facts, as well some logic to it. That some hospitals, strapped for resources, get money from the Fed is hardly surprising or suspicious, but if it's tied to their Covid-19 reporting, then I'd be interested.
                            i just googled it and looked at some fact check sites.

                            An article shared on Facebook questions whether the count of COVID-19 patients is inflated, saying hospitals have a fina
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                            • WillyBoy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-19-18
                              • 1988

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Auto Donk
                              so willy sees COMMON FLU DEATHS SUDDENLY ENDING AND NOT in accordance with years of historical data showing no way in hell it would happen as claimed as "faux news".... guess he's the brain dead mother fukker he's referring to in his title in this thread.....

                              f'n brainwashed lib relying on cnn/msm/google/youtube for his bullshit narrative....

                              throw in free money to lie, and like someone said, shady piece of shit new yorkers like cuomo and de blasidiot will take it every time........

                              the msm/cnn/msnbc narrative is a huge crock of shit....
                              You insist you don’t watch FAUX News, but you insistently proclaim the fictions they’re selling about the common flu. Being not a dimwit, I’m going to take what the CDC says over Laura Ingraham.
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                              • fried cheese
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-17-13
                                • 4461

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WillyBoy
                                I said that "when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans" FAUX News will have a new lie, other than the common flu conspiracy they're currently spinning. And it doesn't take half a brain to see that, after a full year, deaths could 5 to 10 times that number. And, of course you don't watch FAUX News, you just channel them word for word. When you said you "just watch laura ingram" (sic), it was another of your fantasies. My bad.
                                then use the million death argument because then at least we can have a discussion about how many deaths would justify a lockdown. bringing up 100k deaths and making it seem like a lot just weakens your argument. ive never even heard of laura ingram before lol. i do watch project veritas videos on youtube though if you are looking for conservative outlets that i watch.
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                                • WillyBoy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-19-18
                                  • 1988

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fried cheese
                                  i read hospitals get 20% more money for corona virus patients. i think the money comes from the stimulus plan. hospitals are now able to count probable cases instead of just confirmed cases.
                                  Thanks for that. A good read; although it only suggests a basis for hospital skullduggery. I have always thought Covid 19 infections numbers, themselves, have been inflated, but the fact that the CDC which reports these huge numbers, gets them directly from labs, as well as hospitals and public health officials, makes faked reporting a bit unlikely.
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                                  • fried cheese
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-17-13
                                    • 4461

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WillyBoy
                                    Thanks for that. A good read; although it only suggests a basis for hospital skullduggery. I have always thought Covid 19 infections numbers, themselves, have been inflated, but the fact that the CDC which reports these huge numbers, gets them directly from labs, as well as hospitals and public health officials, makes faked reporting a bit unlikely.
                                    no the infection numbers are much lower than the actual amount most likely. the stanford antibody study suggested that the amount of infected was 50-85 times larger than were actually reported and estimated a .1%-.2% mortality rate. usc study was similar. new york study suggested that 21% of ppl in new york city were infected with around a .5% mortality rate.

                                    the disease is probably very contagious but not as deadly as ppl originally thought.
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                                    • WillyBoy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-19-18
                                      • 1988

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                      no the infection numbers are much lower than the actual amount most likely. the stanford antibody study suggested that the amount of infected was 50-85 times larger than were actually reported and estimated a .1%-.2% mortality rate. usc study was similar. new york study suggested that 21% of ppl in new york city were infected with around a .5% mortality rate.

                                      the disease is probably very contagious but not as deadly as ppl originally thought.
                                      No disagreement: the “actual” numbers may be higher; but the “reported” numbers still seem inflated to me (but that’s just my suspicious mind talking). The rate of “actual” mortality from Covid 19 (and hence its lethality) can only ever be estimated, given the number of in-home deaths of the untested – who may, indeed, have been infected by the Coronavirus - and the fact that we don’t test the dead. Traditionally, better estimates will come as the disease runs its course.
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                                      • slambam
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-10
                                        • 1653

                                        #20
                                        Lol, the entire world has been under lockdown and there's still been 237k deaths, including 65k in the US - thousands that are likely unreported too. Anybody who compares it to the flu is either straight retarded, or a very bad ass who thinks he and his family are invincible. I truly hope the idiotic deniers and protestors get hit hard with COVID.
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                                        • Grosshhit
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-10-09
                                          • 673

                                          #21
                                          We went from "Flatten the curve" to "Perpetual lockdown" in a matter of a few weeks. Thankfully people are fighting back and some of our governors have come to their senses, but there is still way too much authoritarian fuckery going on.

                                          Crazy how fast "15 days to slow the spread" morphed into "you're ordered to stay in your homes until the virus is gone". The lockdowns were sold to the American public as a temporary short-term effort to ensure that hospitals didn't become overwhelmed, not as a quarantine to deal with the virus itself, but Democrats are never ones to let a crisis go to waste without grabbing more power and flexing their authoritarian muscles with the support of millions of hysterical WillyBoys around the country.
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                                          • hehfest
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-28-08
                                            • 7934

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Grosshhit
                                            We went from "Flatten the curve" to "Perpetual lockdown" in a matter of a few weeks. Thankfully people are fighting back and some of our governors have come to their senses, but there is still way too much authoritarian fuckery going on.

                                            Crazy how fast "15 days to slow the spread" morphed into "you're ordered to stay in your homes until the virus is gone". The lockdowns were sold to the American public as a temporary short-term effort to ensure that hospitals didn't become overwhelmed, not as a quarantine to deal with the virus itself, but Democrats are never ones to let a crisis go to waste without grabbing more power and flexing their authoritarian muscles with the support of millions of hysterical WillyBoys around the country.

                                            Just arrive in Michigan. Whit-Lock plays a little game with the protestors. Every time they show up in Lansing, she backs it out 2 more weeks. April 30, May 15, now May 29 or something. This all has led me to think that we can govern ourselves (thought this most of my life). We don't need a government. Sure, for some basic things we could get together in local communities and decide to pave a road, etc. This governor should be arrested immediately. Without a doubt.
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                                            • Stryder
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-10-14
                                              • 668

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by WillyBoy
                                              Fascinating to watch the brain-dead, FOX-watchers, striving to upend hard facts, like the ever-increasing Covid 19 death numbers. “Look at the flu!!!” they scream. “Why have common flu deaths been so low, and have now almost disappeared?!!!!” Shaking their empty heads, sadly, they all agree, “It’s all the big hoax, a sham,” and, along with the orange blimp, blame the media, the Democrats, the Deep State, the WHO, the Chinese, and Obama (who probably started it all).

                                              Well, infections and deaths from the common flu was minimized this year by widespread social-distancing and lockdowns, due to Covid 19 fears; and deaths due to the common flu have nearly disappeared because the flu season peaks in February, and is gone by May. Now, that’s a hard concept to get a half a brain around, but it’s a true, real and hard fact, not the bizarre propaganda that issues from FOX. Of course, never letting a fact get in the way of a simple, easy-to-grasp, falsehood – the FOX News diehard philosophy – when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans, they’ll have some new lie to sell to their noodle-headed audience.

                                              Always up for a laugh, I look forward to it.
                                              You are the brain-dead one

                                              Fake laugh and cry more

                                              Pansyface
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                                              • mezmurized2
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-02-19
                                                • 1232

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by WillyBoy
                                                Fascinating to watch the brain-dead, FOX-watchers, striving to upend hard facts, like the ever-increasing Covid 19 death numbers. “Look at the flu!!!” they scream. “Why have common flu deaths been so low, and have now almost disappeared?!!!!” Shaking their empty heads, sadly, they all agree, “It’s all the big hoax, a sham,” and, along with the orange blimp, blame the media, the Democrats, the Deep State, the WHO, the Chinese, and Obama (who probably started it all).

                                                Well, infections and deaths from the common flu was minimized this year by widespread social-distancing and lockdowns, due to Covid 19 fears; and deaths due to the common flu have nearly disappeared because the flu season peaks in February, and is gone by May.
                                                Now, that’s a hard concept to get a half a brain around, but it’s a true, real and hard fact, not the bizarre propaganda that issues from FOX.
                                                Of course, never letting a fact get in the way of a simple, easy-to-grasp, falsehood – the FOX News diehard philosophy – when June comes around, and Covid 19 deaths close in on 100,000 Americans, they’ll have some new lie to sell to their noodle-headed audience.

                                                Always up for a laugh, I look forward to it.
                                                Plus, the coronavirus killed 60,000 Americans
                                                just in the month of April, plus one day !!


                                                And that was WITH tough mitigation measures reducing the spread!

                                                No "flu" ever did that...
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                                                • mezmurized2
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-02-19
                                                  • 1232

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                  you have a better chance of harrison ford killing you in a plane crash than dying of coronavirus, unless your 85 yr old or older, or live in a nyc nursing home.......
                                                  ...or drive a bus,

                                                  ...or are a police officer,

                                                  ...or a crewman on an aircraft carrier,

                                                  ...or WORK in a nursing home,

                                                  ...or WORK in a hospital,

                                                  ...or WORK in a Veterans care facility,

                                                  ...or WORK in a meat-packing plant

                                                  ...or are one of the 50 MILLION Americans under age 65 with Asthma or diabetes

                                                  Other than that, your chances of actually dying are likely slim.

                                                  You may get damn sick though...but not dead.
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                                                  • Sol Diablo
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-03-12
                                                    • 489

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                                    Anyone who thinks we should still stay quarantined at a national level is a moron and too dumb to understand complex issues. It's all just REEEEE people are dieing. Okay what about everything else that's happening? You steal a year of life from 99.97% of the population to save the 0.03% of the population 6 months of their life? Do you know math?
                                                    Do you know that life expectancy is highly corerelated with wealth? You know how many lives are getting ruined financially right now? So fk them, right?
                                                    What about the people not going into the doctors office for their checkups and won't catch that fatal disease in time?
                                                    What about the possible long time psychological and health affects on people?
                                                    Also what is YOUR ALTERNATIVE? You do realize we are going to get a spike no matter when we re-open, right? And there's literally no proof that waiting a few more months is going to improve our overall numbers, right?
                                                    You've heard of herd immunity, right? You know a great way to build herd immunity. It's called let healthy people go about their lives while the at risk people stay locked in. It will actually be better for them in the long run and we will save lives.
                                                    I can't think of one solid argument to stay closed. The only reasonable arugment you've ever had is not to overwhelm the hospitals, which that argument is gone at this pont. Hospitals are laying off poeple right now due ot lack of businesss.

                                                    You're only repsonse is hurr durr people are dieing. Yeah, no shit. It's called a virus it kills poeple, whether or not we quarantine. And it will kill people whenever we re-open. You are just dealying the inevitable at what costs?

                                                    Also those fkin numbers are so blown out of porportion and you'd be a moron to believe they are accurate.
                                                    You do know that hospitals are for-profit, and they have a financial incentive to put down Covid, correct? NYC Mayor also has an incentive to encourage that behavior. It pulls money into his state from the federal government. You do know they are going back to heart attacks like six weeks ago and saying "Eh probably covid" and adding it to the numbers, right?

                                                    It's funny that you think you are some brilliant mind to think "death bad". As if everybody else hasn't already figured that out, lol. "ME THINK DEATH BAD YOU DUMB YOU DONT KNOW THAT". Maybe other people are just capable about thinking about the issue at a deeper and more compassionate level to all of humans, and not just 0.03 % of them.
                                                    Great post.
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                                                    • mezmurized2
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-02-19
                                                      • 1232

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                                      i just googled it and looked at some fact check sites.

                                                      https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...D-19-payments/
                                                      Thanks for the link.

                                                      Interesting read too from that site...

                                                      Article Quote:

                                                      "This is no scandal," Antos said. "The 20% was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can't provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped."

                                                      Julie Aultman, a member of the editorial board of the American Medical Association’s AMA Journal of Ethics, told PolitiFact it is "very unlikely that physicians or hospitals will falsify data or be motivated by money to do so."

                                                      "There are strict policies for reporting and, quite frankly, healthcare workers are only focusing on helping their patients and doing as much as they can with little resources," said Aultman, who is director of the medical ethics and humanities program at Northeast Ohio Medical University. "Ohio is reporting confirmed and suspected cases and so this is how our providers are responding to their patients -- they are being very transparent about confirmed versus suspected."

                                                      As for the suggestion that there is an overcount of COVID-19 cases,
                                                      "the data has suggested that, in fact, there’s
                                                      a significant undercount of deaths due to COVID,"


                                                      Jennifer Kates, the Kaiser Family Foundation’s
                                                      director of global health & HIV policy, told PolitiFact.


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                                                      • mezmurized2
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                                                        • 12-02-19
                                                        • 1232

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fried cheese
                                                        no the infection numbers are much lower than the actual amount most likely. the stanford antibody study suggested that the amount of infected was 50-85 times larger than were actually reported and estimated a .1%-.2% mortality rate. usc study was similar.
                                                        the disease is probably very contagious but not as deadly as ppl originally thought.
                                                        The actual number of cases of infected people is undoubtedly higher than reported
                                                        because 98% of the American population has NOT been tested.
                                                        However those two studies you referred to, after they were each peer reviewed,
                                                        were refuted by their peers as flawed.
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                                                        • fried cheese
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-17-13
                                                          • 4461

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mezmurized2
                                                          The actual number of cases of infected people is undoubtedly higher than reported
                                                          because 98% of the American population has NOT been tested.
                                                          However those two studies you referred to, after they were each peer reviewed,
                                                          were refuted by their peers as flawed.
                                                          ah, i see that they are saying that the study didnt account enough for the possible variance in the false positive percentages in the tests they used. i guess their tests indicated about a .5% false positive rate but were refuted saying it could potentially vary to up to a 1.7% rate. according to the article i read they responded and from my calculations on their revised numbers its now around .12%-.38% mortality rate.

                                                          the argument that the test could have a much higher false positive rate so that it is inconclusive is fine for a single study but are all the antibody studies having much higher than average false positives? it seems unlikely that the stanford, usc, new york, germany, and massachusetts antibody tests all experienced high variance from the average. they all estimate much a lower mortality rate than the 2% originally estimated for the virus.

                                                          looking at the death statistics by state i also wonder if stay at home orders are even accomplishing anything. the 6 states that didnt issue stay at home orders are all doing very well. they are all relatively low density states though, but even when comparing them to states with similar density they are still doing better on average.
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                                                          • hostile takeover
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-06-09
                                                            • 2258

                                                            #30
                                                            I say let the libs hide in their homes. Probably better that way.

                                                            I live in a red county near St Louis. Very little cases of the zombie flu. People have been outside and visiting establishments as much as possible for quite some time.

                                                            People are happy around here. People are socializing.

                                                            Of course, people around here don't have cnn or pmsnbc turned on to scared the sh*t out of us.
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                                                            • WillyBoy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-19-18
                                                              • 1988

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by hostile takeover
                                                              I say let the libs hide in their homes. Probably better that way.

                                                              I live in a red county near St Louis. Very little cases of the zombie flu. People have been outside and visiting establishments as much as possible for quite some time.

                                                              People are happy around here. People are socializing.

                                                              Of course, people around here don't have cnn or pmsnbc turned on to scared the sh*t out of us.
                                                              Apparently, just like Florida, Missouri has the kind of Covid 19 that appears and spreads only by magic (not through social contact), and is way less lethal than the kind that’s killing in the rest of the world. And, if I was a “lib”, I’d urge you to continue to party, (killing off your parents), because the Coronavirus is just ordinary flu (even though flu season is all but ended), which translates into a diminish red state population by November. Santa Claus is real. The Earth is flat. Believe in FAUX News and the Missouri miracle.
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