Derailer AKA BuffaloNickle is no longer a pro! SBR isnt messing around! Kudos

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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65086

    #71
    Originally posted by BigDeem5
    Is it possible IAG was told about contests by derailer

    And derailer and Danica are same person?

    And IAG is separate?
    If only this was suggested earlier

    Oh wait....
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    • RockBottom
      SBR MVP
      • 12-03-08
      • 1448

      #72
      Originally posted by Chi_archie
      so did IAG get paid?

      or did she not get paid due to suspicion?? I'm honestly asking because I didn't follow the bart simpson analogy.

      did Derailer get any punishment due to suspicion? as in banning, stripping of Pro status, limiting contests in future?

      seems odd to be willing to do anything punitive if its really only on Suspicion but not willing to actually let the paying pro members be made Whole and think its fair to them to not get paid the amount they deserve instead of a cheater?
      She declined it not to be an issue, told them they could reassign it or donate it to Big Day.
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      • Alright Alright
        SBR MVP
        • 09-02-16
        • 2451

        #73
        Where is "across the street?" Why can't we refer to them by their real name? Yes, I am a dumbass!
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        • playersonly69
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-04-08
          • 12827

          #74
          Well we have finally got down to the ROCK BOTTOM of all of this.


          We cant say the othrr forums nane, but dont worry there are only about 15 different posters there and another 40 ghosts.
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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 51879

            #75
            Originally posted by Chili_Powder
            Enough with the IAG “living saint” spiel. There was a connection, SBR wasn’t comfortable making rulings on anything that in their mind was less than 100.00% guilty.
            Also considering they (all 3) did this starting with the 9 month nascar contest too there is no maybe about any of it.
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            • RockBottom
              SBR MVP
              • 12-03-08
              • 1448

              #76
              Originally posted by playersonly69
              Well we have finally got down to the ROCK BOTTOM of all of this.


              We cant say the othrr forums nane, but dont worry there are only about 15 different posters there and another 40 ghosts.
              Rock bottom was about my place in BTP.
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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65086

                #77
                i really think she was an innocent party to this

                but i just wonder why they all 3 entered this contest back to back to back?

                surely at that point she knew something fishy was going on?




                also think sbr did the right thing by paying

                there is no rule that you cant tail someone's picks ((((this year)))
                Last edited by RudyRuetigger; 01-02-19, 08:49 AM.
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63165

                  #78
                  Originally posted by RockBottom
                  Is derailer giving her picks a crime? The only crime I see is derailer using a ghost.
                  exactly

                  I don't think multiple posters having super correlated plays can be considered cheating.

                  a) The damn plays still have to win

                  b) Making the same plays does not mean the accounts are the same person (although it sounds as though SBR determined Derailer and Danica were linked)

                  c) The damn plays could just come from some tout that a few posters buy from. (don't we have a tout forum where plays are shared?)
                  - https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/

                  d) The damn plays could come from some forum chat, skype, email, text, Denny's syndicate meeting between posters that have weekly roundtable discussions and break down various segments of the NFL. No reason people can't pool their knowledge in capping and come to the consensus on the 3-5 best plays of the week, and again, the plays have to WIN.


                  e) Its basically a free contest from SBR I find this whole situation intriguing but not at all outrageous. Can't be mad at people looking for angles. but its just a hobby and past time for me and I didn't win any bitcoin in this thing so I guess its just easy for me to say that. Tricks are for kids
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                  • RockBottom
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-03-08
                    • 1448

                    #79
                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                    i really think she was an innocent party to this

                    but i just wonder why they all 3 entered this contest back to back to back?

                    surely at that point she knew something fishy was going on?




                    also think sbr did the right thing by paying

                    there is no rule that you cant tail someone's picks this year
                    Derailer sent a PM about it.
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                    • Chi_archie
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-22-08
                      • 63165

                      #80
                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                      i really think she was an innocent party to this

                      but i just wonder why they all 3 entered this contest back to back to back?

                      surely at that point she knew something fishy was going on?




                      also think sbr did the right thing by paying

                      there is no rule that you cant tail someone's picks this year
                      let's say i'm texting or talking to you on phone because we are friends off forum.

                      I say,
                      1) "hey there's another interesting contest, but you gotta confirm you are in. here i'll send you the link. "

                      2) I go sign up and then I sign my ghost up.

                      3) the person I sent the link to signs up

                      its not rocket brain surgery science
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #81
                        Originally posted by RockBottom
                        Derailer sent a PM about it.
                        are you guessing again like the derailer 'not banned here' post?

                        it sounds like im being a smartass, but im not..just asking

                        THANKS
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65086

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                          let's say i'm texting or talking to you on phone because we are friends off forum.

                          I say,
                          1) "hey there's another interesting contest, but you gotta confirm you are in. here i'll send you the link. "

                          2) I go sign up and then I sign my ghost up.

                          3) the person I sent the link to signs up

                          its not rocket brain surgery science

                          derailer isnt the real person either

                          she should just give up who derailer is to clear her name

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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63165

                            #83
                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            derailer isnt the real person either

                            she should just give up who derailer is to clear her name


                            I'd think that she's not a snitch and what's a clear name on a dirty forum that a person is not really invested in mean anyways?

                            I'd guess that would be her thinking.

                            knowing her. I think she has thought about that whole contest and this situation about 100x less than all of us that have posted in this and the other thread.
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65086

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                              I'd think that she's not a snitch and what's a clear name on a dirty forum that a person is not really invested in mean anyways?

                              I'd guess that would be her thinking.

                              knowing her. I think she has thought about that whole contest and this situation about 100x less than all of that have posted in this and the other thread.
                              i think she cares. shes been a mod at thex and many other forums

                              im sure shes met tons of sharps across them all


































                              my point is with the 3 in a row posts, if shes not derailer (and i dont think she is), then she knows derailer

                              and since shes been across all sports betting forums, i think she also knows the main online screen name of the real poster
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63165

                                #85
                                she cares at other forums maybe.

                                not here. I doubt she gives a shit about what anyone at SBR thinks about her. I don't....Do you?

                                again

                                why is it against the rules to KNOW someone else in a contest? or use from the same picks pool?

                                of course she knows him and knows derailers original or most known handle

                                but why the fuk should she snitch?

                                i'd lose respect for her if she did. that's real e forumville cred.
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                                • RockBottom
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-03-08
                                  • 1448

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                  are you guessing again like the derailer 'not banned here' post?

                                  it sounds like im being a smartass, but im not..just asking

                                  THANKS
                                  She told me.
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65086

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                    she cares at other forums maybe.

                                    not here. I doubt she gives a shit about what anyone at SBR thinks about her. I don't....Do you?

                                    again

                                    why is it against the rules to KNOW someone else in a contest?

                                    of course she knows him and knows derailers original or most known handle

                                    but why the fuk should she snitch?

                                    i'd lose respect for her if she did. that's real e forumville cred.
                                    this is the point i was addressing

                                    so maybe she isnt innocent if she knows that line to be true
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                                    • Chi_archie
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-22-08
                                      • 63165

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                      this is the point i was addressing

                                      so maybe she isnt innocent if she knows that line to be true
                                      and the point i'm addressing is.

                                      why does it matter if she knows him or who others know him as?

                                      is RudyRuetigger your first SBR user name?


                                      just because she knows who was behind Derailer, doesn't mean she knows that same person was behind Danica or any other name
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                                      • RockBottom
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-03-08
                                        • 1448

                                        #89
                                        A lot of misinformation here, of course much of it by Rudy. She was never a rx mod.

                                        Rudy, you’re trying way too hard to be relevant here. Why don’t you go across the street and ask her? Doesn’t mean she’ll return the courtesy since you are accusing her.
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65086

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          and the point i'm addressing is.

                                          why does it matter if she knows him or who others know him as?

                                          is RudyRuetigger your first SBR user name?


                                          just because she knows who was behind Derailer, doesn't mean she knows that same person was behind Danica or any other name
                                          you probably shouldve read the whole thing

                                          lets pretend this cheating is a family tree in 5th grade

                                          derailer isnt the tip top where your great great grandparents

                                          theyve been caught before, most recently under buffalo nickel
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65086

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by RockBottom
                                            A lot of misinformation here, of course much of it by Rudy. She was never a rx mod.

                                            Rudy, you’re trying way too hard to be relevant here. Why don’t you go across the street and ask her? Doesn’t mean she’ll return the courtesy since you are accusing her.
                                            sorry

                                            mod at SPORTS PRESCRIPTION
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                                            • RockBottom
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-03-08
                                              • 1448

                                              #92
                                              Why do you care so much about who derailer is? As long as its not IAG, that’s all that matters?
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                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-24-10
                                                • 65086

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by RockBottom
                                                Why do you care so much about who derailer is? As long as its not IAG, that’s all that matters?
                                                the better question is, why are you here worried about it when you have 869 posts in 10 years
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                                                • playersonly69
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-04-08
                                                  • 12827

                                                  #94
                                                  At the end of the day, it appears that no one in the top 10 even cares. And they woukd be the only ones to actually win very much more money.


                                                  They got one over on the posters here
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82531

                                                    #95
                                                    I remember a long time ago maybe 10-12 years ago someone won BTP, when the prizes were peanuts compared to now, by using picks from a paid service (which costed more than the 1st prize money) and it was still within the rules. If you want to spend $2000 to win $1000 for example SBR is not going to stop you.

                                                    It is quite possible this 4-5 individuals are different posters who pulled in their money together to buy picks from a service and they got good picks from them. So they may have invested $5,000 to win $10,000 and then split the profits. It was a risky decision but it paid off.

                                                    Now the moral of the story is "Is this fair for the other SBR Pros who didn't pay for picks?" Probably not.

                                                    "Does SBR prohibit paying for picks and then sharing them on multiple accounts to win a contest?" No, it's not in the rules of the game.

                                                    SBR is not going to stop some individuals who want to burn $5,000 of their money for a chance to win $10,000.

                                                    If some individuals pool their money to buy $5,000 lottery tickets for a ruffle with the prize being $10,000 the organizer of the ruffle is not going to care. Same with SBR.
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63165

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      theyve been caught before, most recently under buffalo nickel
                                                      I've read about the Buffalo Nickel connection.

                                                      did he cheat? or get banned for having multiple user names?


                                                      I don't know seems like a lot of digging and suspected collusion.

                                                      didn't know SBR had so many uptight liberal cuckwad posters that get offended so easily in contests.
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                                                      • RockBottom
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-03-08
                                                        • 1448

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        the better question is, why are you here worried about it when you have 869 posts in 10 years
                                                        I know right from wrong whether it’s 864 posts or 86.400 posts.
                                                        How many should I have? I have 100k roughly in 18 years if it matters.
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65086

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          I remember a long time ago maybe 10-12 years ago someone won BTP, when the prizes were peanuts compared to now, by using picks from a paid service (which costed more than the 1st prize money) and it was still within the rules. If you want to spend $2000 to win $1000 for example SBR is not going to stop you.

                                                          It is quite possible this 4-5 individuals are different posters who pulled in their money together to buy picks from a service and they got good picks from them. So they may have invested $5,000 to win $10,000 and then split the profits. It was a risky decision but it paid off.

                                                          Now the moral of the story is "Is this fair for the other SBR Pros who didn,t pay for picks?" Probably not.

                                                          "Does SBR prohibit paying for picks and then sharing them on multiple accounts to win a contest?" No, it's not in the rules of the game.

                                                          SBR is not going to stop some individuals who want to burn $5,000 of their money for a chance to win $10,000.

                                                          If you some individuals pool their money to buy $5,000 lottery tickets for a ruffle with the prize being $10,000 the organizer of the ruffle is not going to care. Same with SBR.
                                                          except you actually burn $0 here since you can keep cashing out points

                                                          most posters would multi account even if there wasnt a BTP contest
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65086

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by RockBottom
                                                            I know right from wrong whether it’s 864 posts or 86.400 posts.
                                                            How many should I have?
                                                            i said they should be paid

                                                            i said shes probably not guilty of the main situation

                                                            i agree she shouldnt say who it is
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                                                            • 5mike5
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-21-11
                                                              • 51879

                                                              #100
                                                              Funny to be innocent and be involved in 2 diff cash contests doing same thing with the same ghost accounts of derailer/danica

                                                              Come on
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82531

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                except you actually burn $0 here since you can keep cashing out points

                                                                most posters would multi account even if there wasnt a BTP contest
                                                                How do you know the picks they entered were free? That was my point. They may have paid thousands for the picks that won the contest. If they were taking shots why not use different picks for each account that they didn't pay for.
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65086

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  How do you know the picks they entered were free? That was my point. They may have paid thousands for the picks that won the contest. If they were taking shots why not use different picks for each account that they didn't pay for.
                                                                  1st part is off topic, but you can make up much more just by being a pro if you are that desperate for money


                                                                  2nd part dealing with different picks...sbr moves slow lines because they first have to change at the book. im sure i could pick out many that only place wagers before a line moves........i said sbr should have software dealing with people that are too stupid in sportsbetting but have the time to create multiple accounts
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65086

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                    didn't know SBR had so many uptight liberal cuckwad posters that get offended so easily in contests.
                                                                    i was banned during the contest anyway so i dont really care

                                                                    make a picks thread and lets talk about them instead
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #104
                                                                      BigDEEM closed this case long ago.

                                                                      Let's move on.

                                                                      Great contest!
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                                                                      • BigDeem5
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-26-11
                                                                        • 17191

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Rudy got buried here.
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