collusion

[hunterwrot]

what percent of players work togather online? anyone have a guess? i have seen a few players playing oddly that makes me beleive they are cheating. lucky for me i figured this out and it worked to my advantage. neither of them cashed in the two i played with them.

[rdo37]

Most sites have security teams that will take notice when a few players are ALWAYS on the same tables.

I'm mainly a cash game player when I play and I think it does happen to some extent. You could get 3-4 players with wireless air cards dominating on a 6-max table. This could probably go undetected if they all play at more than one table with different people and log on and off at different times. So if a player with a winrate of 2BB/100 decides to do this even on only one table of their many tables, I'm sure they could see their winrate increase to at least 5BB/100 which is very respectable. A winrate of 5BB/100 at certain limits could make you 50k-100k/year.

Also I've heard stories of 3 guys colluding together and entering 4-person HU Tournaments. So basically 1 player is guaranteed to play in the final match, and lots of the time they eliminate the odd man out in the first round and enjoy their easy cash.

[JohnnyDr@ma]

its not illegal to colude in 4-person HU tournaments and lots of people team-play, its perfectly legal by the poker sites.

[sinmiedo]

ok.they send me a mail indicating that they will be crediting my accoun with 50 and i have to calim the bonus to /ap
now, apparenlty i have to earn 200 points before i can withraw
is this correct?

[swaindexter]

I have not noticed two of the same players at the same game time after time. Maybe I missed it...

[B1GER1C828]

<1% is my guess they spot collusion quickly

[hunterwrot]

thx guys. watch out for it. ill try to get the names of the guys i played with. i usually have a few games going at once so i dont catch names just look at avatars.

[OmgUrMom]

thx guys. watch out for it. ill try to get the names of the guys i played with. i usually have a few games going at once so i dont catch names just look at avatars.

some people play like 20-30 tables so it won't be rare to see the same names over and over again.....

[sq764]

i take notes on both players I see in sitngos that look like they're doing this... when I see them both back at the table I know to be careful... not hard to spot, when you get down to 4 people left (top 3 pay), you see them never playing each other

[Phightin' Phils]

i take notes on both players I see in sitngos that look like they're doing this... when I see them both back at the table I know to be careful... not hard to spot, when you get down to 4 people left (top 3 pay), you see them never playing each other

call me crazy, but maybe, just MAYBE everyone plays a lot tighter near the bubble. I know this concept is hard to grasp and some might even call me insane for suggesting it, but is it possible that these players just want to cash and not risk losing their stack/doubling someone up?

[Jshap1515]

i take notes on both players I see in sitngos that look like they're doing this... when I see them both back at the table I know to be careful... not hard to spot, when you get down to 4 people left (top 3 pay), you see them never playing each other

Very dumb comment. Its because they wanna cash like the person above said

[JohnnyDr@ma]

lol

[icancount2one]

A lot of the time the way the cards shake out at the bubble it feels like a couple people are colluding against you. Colluders aren't enough to hurt the profits of good sit n' go grinders, so it's probably not that big of a problem. Also, skilled colluders are rare. Usually they're doing it because they can't beat the games themselves, and it's rare that the collusion helps.

If three people want to play a 4 person HU tourney... LMAO! The only thing they're accomplishing is paying more rake.

[B1GER1C828]

lol if u see same 3-4 people on each table its prob because their multi tabling anyway....not colluding

[pokernut9999]

Use to be on pokerstars 2 guys from Phoeniz that were always in the same PLO games together.

As many as 6 tables at a time , never saw both of them see the same flop ever. Hard not to believe they were in together.

[icancount2one]

Use to be on pokerstars 2 guys from Phoeniz that were always in the same PLO games together.

As many as 6 tables at a time , never saw both of them see the same flop ever. Hard not to believe they were in together.

ah, the "best hand" system of collusion, plus it's PLO, so dude, we'll know 4 cards out of the deck! Clowns probably got stacked every time someone had a case card.

[Dante]

I would say its a high %

[pat venditto]

It's way to easy to cheat on my online poker sites and im 100% sure it does happen daily. People getting scammed out of their hard earned money. It's not worth it don't play online poker.

[shari91]

High percentage. At least on FT. I've been invited to do it several times by randoms on there. In fact, the only way I'll ever sit in a ring game on there now would be if I was doing it myself.

[Swinging Johnson]

Pokernut...we're square baby. Thanks for the help!

[andrew5]

it sucks but im sure that it could be done and is done very easy to do

[sq764]

the worst part is the poker rooms swear they are so against collusion yet they could give a flying shit

[sinmiedo]

that is why i rather play casinos or my own games
but even there you find couples of friend controlling the tables

[JohnnyDr@ma]

esp the asians, they collude a lot

[Phightin' Phils]

esp the asians, they collude a lot

hahaha just curious about your reasoning behind this one? bad experience with some asian dudes?