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  • ArunSh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-07
    • 6801

    #36
    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
    1. doubling in 1 tourney is much more beneficial than dumping 4 times over a 4 month tourney...more than likely someone will catch you
    Not sure where you got this "4 times in 4 month" figure. I didn't suggest how many times the person would get dumped to in the dailies, I just said "consistent" basis. Certainly I intended that to mean more than once a month though! (at least once per week say).


    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
    2. you cant create a ghost within the final month....for 2b you are correct...maybe if top 15 get paid, then the last week only includes the top 40
    Again was not suggesting when the ghost account might/would be created, but we know (they have been caught) that some of these do exist so if used in the proper way/subtly these could help make a big difference via dumping.
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    • Crusherrr
      SBR MVP
      • 06-27-16
      • 3646

      #37
      Originally posted by ArunSh
      $1500 is about 40000 in betpoints. I would favor something where say the Top 10 on the leaderboard (or Top 20, something like that) divide up 40000 in points. Say if it were Top 20 something like:

      8000-6000-4000-3000-2000-1500-1500-1500-1500 then 1000 for the remaining places

      That spreads it out a bit, and with the prize difference between 1st and 2nd not being huge ($1500 vs $0 as seems to be the suggestion), people would not be nearly as incentivized to collude/cheat.
      As usual ArunSh hits the nail on the head. Still a neat promotion nonetheless. Hopefully I'll be in the running near the end.
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65086

        #38
        Originally posted by ArunSh
        Not sure where you got this "4 times in 4 month" figure. I didn't suggest how many times the person would get dumped to in the dailies, I just said "consistent" basis. Certainly I intended that to mean more than once a month though! (at least once per week say).




        Again was not suggesting when the ghost account might/would be created, but we know (they have been caught) that some of these do exist so if used in the proper way/subtly these could help make a big difference via dumping.
        my point is then poker players would catch it if it was more than once a month
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        • stevek173
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-29-08
          • 27598

          #39
          Originally posted by Crusherrr
          As usual ArunSh hits the nail on the head. Still a neat promotion nonetheless.
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          • ArunSh
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-24-07
            • 6801

            #40
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            my point is then poker players would catch it if it was more than once a month
            Could be true, but that really seems like a big jump to say that so definitively. Again the Panama crew was doing it rather consistently, and they were not caught so quickly.

            And again some scandals that have happened in poker sites where people were cheating on daily basis were also not caught super fast.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65086

              #41
              Originally posted by ArunSh
              Could be true, but that really seems like a big jump to say that so definitively. Again the Panama crew was doing it rather consistently, and they were not caught so quickly.

              And again some scandals that have happened in poker sites where people were cheating on daily basis were also not caught super fast.
              if what you say is true

              there probably needs to be a case opened with bobbywaves leaderboard bet with tripleD


              maybe bobbywaves points should go to him


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              • cincinnatikid513
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-23-17
                • 45360

                #42
                Originally posted by Carseller4
                At this point any poker contest would be great.

                Year is almost over and still no poker contest.
                not for those wjo can afford 100 renew pro dont be a cheapskate
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                • OVAKUL
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-16-17
                  • 1537

                  #43
                  Yes! Let's do this SBR
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                  • 4uk4life
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-09-10
                    • 3302

                    #44
                    Originally posted by stevek173
                    In these tournies non pros clog the field.

                    In ring however, they should be merged with pros, because at that point that's good for pros to rollover.

                    My two cents.
                    This I agree with. I'm going to be non pro as of Tomorrow lol. There's zero chance I'll be able to roll and get the 3000 points at the non pro table. I'm not sure anyone has ever even sat there before? If there was another way to roll I'd keep playing
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #45
                      Originally posted by 4uk4life
                      This I agree with. I'm going to be non pro as of Tomorrow lol. There's zero chance I'll be able to roll and get the 3000 points at the non pro table. I'm not sure anyone has ever even sat there before? If there was another way to roll I'd keep playing
                      there is another way

                      renew pro
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                      • playersonly69
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-04-08
                        • 12827

                        #46
                        Just pay the $100 like everyone else 4UK. Dont spend 3000 points on renewal
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                        • MrSink
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-30-08
                          • 8087

                          #47
                          one tournament for seat is better . make it just deeper than usual
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                          • SBR_Guest_Pro
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-10-15
                            • 3955

                            #48
                            sounds good to me. Go Pro!
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                            • playersonly69
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-04-08
                              • 12827

                              #49
                              I like the Final tournament idea, but maybe only let the final 10 qualify. We actually let too many guys qualify in the past for the final tournament.


                              Think about it, what we are qualifying for is just 1 tournament. But I loveeeeeeeeeeee the idea of the Seat to the Million Maker tournament. I have played in it before
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                              • blankoblanco
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-18-11
                                • 3486

                                #50
                                Originally posted by ArunSh
                                $1500 is about 40000 in betpoints. I would favor something where say the Top 10 on the leaderboard (or Top 20, something like that) divide up 40000 in points. Say if it were Top 20 something like:

                                8000-6000-4000-3000-2000-1500-1500-1500-1500 then 1000 for the remaining places

                                That spreads it out a bit, and with the prize difference between 1st and 2nd not being huge ($1500 vs $0 as seems to be the suggestion), people would not be nearly as incentivized to collude/cheat.
                                Wait, is someone proposing a 4 month long winner-take-all? Please God no. I personally wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole

                                Agree with your suggestions
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                                • 4uk4life
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-10
                                  • 3302

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by playersonly69
                                  Just pay the $100 like everyone else 4UK. Dont spend 3000 points on renewal

                                  I don't bet or anything for living or for fun anymore. With a rather big family, I don't have disposable income to just throw down $100 even if it is once a year. I love playing poker and stuff on here but it's just not something in the cards anymore(pun not intended haha) like it was 10 years ago. If I get 3000 points to renew, that's how I do it. If not, then it is what it is. It's been a good run and while I'd miss some stuff and plenty of people here, I would most likely just let it ride.
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                                  • sweep
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 16753

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by sam9ball
                                    What do you Degens think of a 4 month Texas Hold'em Tournament with a 1st place prize being a $1500 seat to the

                                    Millionaire Maker Seat at WSOP!

                                    Open to all SBR Members


                                    Any Feedback?
                                    Styill working on the details.
                                    Millionaire Maker starts June 5th...the winner here would have about a half an hour to make travel arrangements....
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                                    • Crusherrr
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-27-16
                                      • 3646

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by sweep
                                      Millionaire Maker starts June 5th...the winner here would have about a half an hour to make travel arrangements....
                                      Good catch
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                                      • mpaschal34
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-04-13
                                        • 12084

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by sweep
                                        Millionaire Maker starts June 5th...the winner here would have about a half an hour to make travel arrangements....
                                        It’s the 2021 tournament.
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                                        • mpaschal34
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-04-13
                                          • 12084

                                          #55
                                          Not trying to be racist....but will the WSOP be banning all players traveling from Asia this year?
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                                          • BigOrange
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-13-09
                                            • 6745

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by sam9ball
                                            What do you Degens think of a 4 month Texas Hold'em Tournament with a 1st place prize being a $1500 seat to the

                                            Millionaire Maker Seat at WSOP!

                                            Open to all SBR Members


                                            Any Feedback?
                                            Styill working on the details.
                                            It would need to start very soon and it would need to be only 2 months long for some of us to have time to plan on going to Vegas.
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                                            • rickie65
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-27-07
                                              • 2894

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                              Wait, is someone proposing a 4 month long winner-take-all? Please God no. I personally wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole
                                              great prize but to hard to commit that much time, have to play basically every day to be competitive on points in the end. maybe if only allowed to play in 3 tourneys a week, or only your top 3 scores count for the week
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                                              • BigOrange
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-13-09
                                                • 6745

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by 4uk4life
                                                This I agree with. I'm going to be non pro as of Tomorrow lol. There's zero chance I'll be able to roll and get the 3000 points at the non pro table. I'm not sure anyone has ever even sat there before? If there was another way to roll I'd keep playing
                                                Have you asked for a betpoints loan to go Pro? I would do half if Arun or someone else wanted to do the other half.
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                                                • thetrinity
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-25-11
                                                  • 22430

                                                  #59
                                                  Too much for a winner take all
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                                                  • sweep
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                    • 16753

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                    Too much for a winner take all
                                                    Final table should get a piece of the winner
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                                                    • 4uk4life
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-09-10
                                                      • 3302

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by BigOrange
                                                      Have you asked for a betpoints loan to go Pro? I would do half if Arun or someone else wanted to do the other half.
                                                      Nah bro I'm not wanting to do any loans anymore lol. I get points slow as hell and don't want that on my shoulders anymore. I'll get it eventually. No rush. I do appreciate your offer to loan though. Thanks Boss!
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                                                      • 4uk4life
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-09-10
                                                        • 3302

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                        Not trying to be racist....but will the WSOP be banning all players traveling from Asia this year?
                                                        Here's hoping all of that goes away soon enough.
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                                                        • franklee168
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-06-11
                                                          • 5544

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                          It’s the 2021 tournament.
                                                          Or maybe a 2121 tourney like the 5:00 weekend tourney that was up for a while here.
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                                                          • 4uk4life
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-09-10
                                                            • 3302

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by franklee168
                                                            Or maybe a 2121 tourney like the 5:00 weekend tourney that was up for a while here.
                                                            Still registered for that one, teaching my son to play just in case I'm not here
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                                                            • fried cheese
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-17-13
                                                              • 4459

                                                              #65
                                                              i like the idea of a 4 month event where your total determines the winner instead of just a tourney entry. but i dont really like prizes that require travel and planning your life around.
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82485

                                                                #66
                                                                Have two contests. One for non-pros and one for pros. Winner of each contest goes to coin flip to decide who wins. In this way the pros have a 50% to win the seat. In a free for all format the non-pros will collude and dump chips to win the seat.
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                                                                • stevek173
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 03-29-08
                                                                  • 27598

                                                                  #67
                                                                  4uk is a good presence at the tables, good player.

                                                                  Let's keep him in there.
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                                                                  • thetrinity
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-25-11
                                                                    • 22430

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by sweep
                                                                    Final table should get a piece of the winner
                                                                    Yeah that would be better. Actually like the idea of rewarding regular season places.

                                                                    Something like winner of final event gets 1/3 his action top 5 regular season gets a piece and maybe 2-6 final table gets a piece. So it would be possible to get 2/15s.

                                                                    Also the winner could get 40 percent his own action with a good regular season.
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                                                                    • ArunSh
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-24-07
                                                                      • 6801

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                      if what you say is true
                                                                      there probably needs to be a case opened with bobbywaves leaderboard bet with tripleD
                                                                      maybe bobbywaves points should go to him

                                                                      Yes, I've wondered about that honestly. Bobby's only argument when he got into it with Triple was "I beat you once for 29k" - rather sad! But once it was revealed that bobby was a cheat, did make me wonder if he cheated to win that bet all those years ago. Again, if he had someone stealthily dumping to him on various occasions (not too often to avoid it looking suspicious but enough to make a real difference as well), that could well be why he won the bet given it was fairly close throughout.

                                                                      Obviously no way to know at this point. But can't forget how Bobby used to try to talk down to such a high % of the forum here about how he was superior to them since he had more store cashouts than them. Yet, in something that is indisputable, a good chunk of his store cashouts came via his co-conspirator in the bitcoin scam, firekillex. So the fact that he was bragging/trying to put people down based on that, when he knew he was getting a good portion of those points fraudulently - well that really speaks to what type of fraudulent idiot we were dealing with. Certainly not someone who would have been above cheating to win a 29k poker bet!

                                                                      Anyway who really knows at this point - I wouldn't object to that 16k in points going to Triple though! Bobby is still probably reading this and crying every night about losing them, and if they went to Triple now, it'd probably double his daily flow of tears!
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                                                                      • ArunSh
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-24-07
                                                                        • 6801

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                                        Wait, is someone proposing a 4 month long winner-take-all? Please God no. I personally wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole
                                                                        Agree with your suggestions
                                                                        Thanks! Yes, in prior years when they had a WSOP Main Event seat for the winner, that was obviously a great prize, but winner take all made it too much of a lottery. Don't get me wrong, it was very exciting + good promotion, but when first place got a $10k size prize and second place got maybe at most $500 in betpoints, way too big of a gap!

                                                                        I think more evenly distributed prizes as I suggested will encourage more, for one you really get rewarded for consistent performance + it doesn't seem like a huge lottery at the end with just one huge prize.
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