Can Vegas mobile sportsbooks detect VPNs or remote logins?

**jjgold** · 07-25-12, 03:33 PM

Ok

Hesitant to jail break iPhone and fuk it up

**YorkHunt** · 07-25-12, 03:36 PM

JJ...you can always do a hard restore and your Iphone is back to normal.

Chance of bricking your iphone these days is pretty low. Even if you did just restore back.

**jjgold** · 07-25-12, 03:53 PM

Thanks Yorkie

**YorkHunt** · 07-25-12, 03:54 PM

Yup JJ anymore help just PM me

**jjgold** · 07-25-12, 03:58 PM

Ok

Friday I will fuk around with this

Yorkie do my current apps stay if I jailbreak iPhone?

**YorkHunt** · 07-25-12, 04:04 PM

Yes.. And jail breaking also entitles you to any apps in the app store free

**onlooker** · 07-25-12, 10:47 PM

Geo-fencing = Setting a physical boundary, via a GPS system to where someone can roam.

Cantor Gaming Comments: Cantor Gaming Opps For Locaid's Mobile Sports Wagering App

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http://www.cantor.com/press_releases/Cantor_Gaming_Comments_Cantor_Gaming_Opps_For_Locaids_Mobile_Sports_Wagering_App.html

May 3, 2012, TMCnet.com

Locaid, a Location-as-a-Service company, said that it partnered with Cantor Gaming to provide location services for its mobile sports wagering application, available on Android devices, including cell phones and tablets.

In a release, the Company said that it worked with Cantor Gaming to provide a secure and patented privacy platform that enabled Cantor Gaming to extend its wagering functionality beyond the casino floor. As a result, Cantor Gaming's mobile sports wagering application allows customers access to the entire spectrum of wagers available in Cantor Race and Sports Books from anywhere in the state of Nevada.

By using Locaid's location services, Cantor Gaming's application only works within the state of Nevada and will not function once patrons travel out-of-state, compliant with Nevada Gaming Control Board regulations.

By using Locaid's unspoofable, privacy protected, secure cell-ID location service, which checks a mobile device's positioning against a geo-fence, Cantor Gaming can securely and instantly validate the location of a mobile device and determine if it is within the state boundaries.

"To comply with state law, it was critical to ensure a mobile user's location for mobile gaming and safeguard against today's sophisticated spoofing technologies; Locaid enabled us to meet this challenge," said Paul Williams, CTO of Cantor Gaming. "Locaid is the only compliant network location-based solution for mobile sports betting in Nevada, and their services allow us to extend our reach of mobile gaming to the entire state." "Locaid utilizes geofence technology that meets the most rigorous compliance standards in the country," said Rip Gerber, President and CEO of Locaid.

"Locaid is pleased to help Cantor ensure that mobile gamers only place wagers on their smartphones when they are physically located in a legally approved area. Our Location-as-a- Service is the 'only game in town' when it comes to authenticating the real world location of a smartphone in Nevada. As other states evaluate and adopt smartphone-based gaming, Locaid's partnership with Cantor Gaming serves as a roadmap on how to deliver a superior mobile gaming experience that exceeds all federal and state compliance requirements." Cantor Gaming is an affiliate of the financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald.

In order to use the Cantor sportsbook on your device, you have to download and install the Cantor Gaming Sportsbook App and the Cantor Gaming Device Validator.

The Cantor Gaming Device Validator must over ride whatever setting you have on your phone. As I have GPS off, and this uses it to detect the geo-fence.

Everytime you log into the app, it validates your location, which takes a minute or so to complete. So don't try to make any last minute bets, because this might just shut you out of them.

**jjgold** · 07-25-12, 10:50 PM

Great info thread

Onlooker ???

Maybe we can call you and you can funnel bets in for us???

**onlooker** · 07-25-12, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Great info thread

Onlooker ???

Maybe we can call you and you can funnel bets in for us???

If it ever comes down to that, we can talk about running bets.

**stuntin909** · 07-26-12, 12:12 AM

I think it's easier with IOS than with Android. I used to fake my location to bypass blackout restriction on NBA League Pass, and MLB Extra Innings apps on my phone. Worked like a charm.

Gold make sure you backup your phone before you fuk with it.

**xelemental** · 07-26-12, 12:43 AM

Dude this would be awesome if you can really trick it. I already have a rooted Android so I can easily fake my location. I rather use books from Vegas that I know I will get paid out on than use sketchy offshore books that take 8 months to get a withdrawal. This is huge if we can really do this. Please keep me updated!

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by stuntin909

I think it's easier with IOS than with Android. I used to fake my location to bypass blackout restriction on NBA League Pass, and MLB Extra Innings apps on my phone. Worked like a charm.

Gold make sure you backup your phone before you fuk with it.

Originally posted by xelemental

Dude this would be awesome if you can really trick it. I already have a rooted Android so I can easily fake my location. I rather use books from Vegas that I know I will get paid out on than use sketchy offshore books that take 8 months to get a withdrawal. This is huge if we can really do this. Please keep me updated!

Read post 42.

I think this is a little bit more complex then a sports package app.

**HoulihansTX** · 07-26-12, 01:07 AM

I will go to the Hard Rock and ask the manager about it.

Will report back Friday

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 01:16 AM

Guys I will test this out. This weekend probably

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

I will go to the Hard Rock and ask the manager about it.

Will report back Friday

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Guys I will test this out. This weekend probably

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 01:26 AM

Onlooker...the system they use I'm familiar with. It is meant to carry out fake IPs or masking IPs. The system this program uses on the iPhone is completely different. It's not using the IP but just changing the locations directing to a "bug" in the apple location services system

**xelemental** · 07-26-12, 01:29 AM

These are the threads on SBR that makes this forum relevant. I'd rather see these type of threads vs "my biggest life saving air bets ever" type of threads. This would be ground breaking if we can make this happen. Will wait for your reports.

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Onlooker...the system they use I'm familiar with. It is meant to carry out fake IPs or masking IPs. The system this program uses on the iPhone is completely different. It's not using the IP but just changing the locations directing to a "bug" in the apple location services system

Don't get me wrong, I'm interested to see the results of the test, but I just think Locaid has made it harder then this to crack.

Also, Cantor Gaming doesn't have a Sportbook App for the iPhone currently.

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 01:55 AM

I meant Ipad because security wise they run on the same security system

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

I meant Ipad because security wise they run on the same security system

Oh, I didn't know they had one for iPad.

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 01:58 AM

Not sure? Havent even downloaded it yet. Is android the only system that has it for real money?

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 01:59 AM

If so I will need ANYONE with an android to PM me so we can try this out

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Not sure? Havent even downloaded it yet. Is android the only system that has it for real money?

Originally posted by YorkHunt

If so I will need ANYONE with an android to PM me so we can try this out

Yeah, the Sportsbook App is only on Android for the time being. They keep saying they are actively working on a iPhone App.

Here is the iPad Game App. Xp points, no real money.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cantor-games/id507469864

‎Connecting to Apple Music.

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 02:04 AM

Ok. Im going to buy an Android phone either this weekend or early next week. This has to work. Anyone with a current Android phone PM ME ASAP

**TheCentaur** · 07-26-12, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

Guys I will test this out. This weekend probably

ok let us know.

Also, SBRJohn and online sportsbook owners, no need to feel threatened by this, the type of players that would be determined to figure this out are not the type the books want as customers anyway, probably already limited or banned.

**jjgold** · 07-26-12, 05:36 AM

Yorkie get ready to dish out $600 if I fuk my phone up

Yorkie I know you live in Boston, Mass near a Starbucks

**jjgold** · 07-26-12, 09:27 PM

TOP

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 09:30 PM

JJ just hold off cantor gaming app for iPhone will be out later only on android now

**stuntin909** · 07-26-12, 09:36 PM

I am 95% positive it can be done. As mentioned, the hack over rides the apps, not the other way around.

I'm just concerned on how to register with Cantor. Do you need a Nevada address? Or just leave a deposit and be physically in Nevada to wager?

I'm going to give it a shot soon. Finishing school in a few weeks. Will report

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 09:40 PM

You need to deposit in person at cantor gaming I'm assuming you don't need to be a resident they just want to ensure your placing the wagers in Nevada. I'm sure they give you an account number when you deposit.. Anyone know?

**jjgold** · 07-26-12, 09:41 PM

Here is my question

Betting Apps that do use location services will it also read your phone IP address or does it just read your fake location you put in?

**YorkHunt** · 07-26-12, 09:42 PM

Phone ip is nothing to do with location. Its just the identifier unlike Internet ip

**poker6469** · 07-26-12, 10:33 PM

william hill,formaly leroys has iphone mobile app for nevada .http://www.williamhill.us/mobile

**jjgold** · 07-26-12, 10:59 PM

I wonder if UK Will Hill Customers if in Vegas can bet with their accounts?

**onlooker** · 07-26-12, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by poker6469

william hill,formaly leroys has iphone mobile app for nevada .http://www.williamhill.us/mobile

I use that App too, and actually think it is better then the Cantor one.