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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #71
    Originally posted by ** PICKS
    What arent you banned from?

    Good question LOL
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    • YorkHunt
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-11-10
      • 7496

      #72
      Wow... Sad
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      • UCANT OUTCAPME
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-04-10
        • 35

        #73
        had a garage sale sold some furniture to pay for a rams loss to the 49ers on monday nite back in the 80's
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        • Emily_Haines
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-09
          • 15917

          #74
          Originally posted by Brock Landers
          but have since been banned by Paypal for stiffing them over a bank account payment that i sent to a friend
          This is nothing to be proud of. Idiots like you make it tougher for the rest of us.
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          • Boner_18
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-24-08
            • 8301

            #75
            A guy I know was opperating a kenel back in 2008 and all his clients were Wall St. guys. Well, the clients dried up but he had about 2 litters worth of dogs that were growing fast and were unsold. HE was looking at thousands in food costs and he didn't want to lose his license. I offered to take the pups off his hands for a couple of grand... needless to say the only homes I found them were either at the bottom of a lake or in a dumpster behind the local Applebees.

            Took the 2k and tailed Venditto right off a cliff. Woof.
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            • Brock Landers
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 06-30-08
              • 45359

              #76
              Originally posted by Boner_18
              A guy I know was opperating a kenel back in 2008 and all his clients were Wall St. guys. Well, the clients dried up but he had about 2 litters worth of dogs that were growing fast and were unsold. HE was looking at thousands in food costs and he didn't want to lose his license. I offered to take the pups off his hands for a couple of grand... needless to say the only homes I found them were either at the bottom of a lake or in a dumpster behind the local Applebees.

              Took the 2k and tailed Venditto right off a cliff. Woof.
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              • gators0708
                SBR MVP
                • 10-07-10
                • 2318

                #77
                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                Thats f****n sick...
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                • Killer_Demo
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-15-08
                  • 8409

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boner_18
                  A guy I know was opperating a kenel back in 2008 and all his clients were Wall St. guys. Well, the clients dried up but he had about 2 litters worth of dogs that were growing fast and were unsold. HE was looking at thousands in food costs and he didn't want to lose his license. I offered to take the pups off his hands for a couple of grand... needless to say the only homes I found them were either at the bottom of a lake or in a dumpster behind the local Applebees.

                  Took the 2k and tailed Venditto right off a cliff. Woof.
                  what a piece of shit you are if this is true
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                  • HoulihansTX
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-12-09
                    • 30566

                    #79
                    Did anyone read EZ Money's post.

                    Easily put Brock to shame on the Degen totem pole.
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                    • LostBankroll
                      Restricted User
                      • 02-10-10
                      • 4538

                      #80
                      wow this thread is giving me ideas hmmmmmmm.
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #81
                        Originally posted by eyeball
                        A sick one
                        I took out 5K from my 9 year old daughters bank account she had for college. I lost it all and never replaced it. But later on I got divorced and had to pay child support, plus her college


                        Wow.
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Boner_18
                          A guy I know was opperating a kenel back in 2008 and all his clients were Wall St. guys. Well, the clients dried up but he had about 2 litters worth of dogs that were growing fast and were unsold. HE was looking at thousands in food costs and he didn't want to lose his license. I offered to take the pups off his hands for a couple of grand... needless to say the only homes I found them were either at the bottom of a lake or in a dumpster behind the local Applebees.

                          Took the 2k and tailed Venditto right off a cliff. Woof.
                          Is this legit?

                          This thread is unreal.
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                          • MendozaLine
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-11-10
                            • 4088

                            #83
                            worked a little harder the next pay period at work
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                            • No coincidences
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-18-10
                              • 76300

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                              i've got a great job and loving family. My parents can overlook my gambling penchant
                              "Penchant" -- now there's a word for it. Talk about the understatement of the century.
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                              • chipper
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-07-10
                                • 1994

                                #85
                                My wife questions that I might have a gambling problem... I gotta' show her this thread and all the heat will be off of me when she sees what some others have done.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Ez Money 77
                                  Okay I am going to try to list what I can remember, trust me when I say there is a good chance I leave some stuff out. Okay well I am 34 years old right now so these are things that basically I have done because of gambling in the last 16 or so years.

                                  I'll begin with when I was like 18/19 years olds and I was still living with my mom. At this point I was already going to the Indian casino's and played blackjack. You only had to be 18 years old to go there. After about a year of being hooked to gambling I was like $2300 behind on my car I owned and one night while I was sleeping I woke up and it was gone. Well not to drag this out, I borrowed the money from my uncle. Problem is I went to the casino that night instead of getting it back. Thing is I didn't lose it all. I was down to $100 and then proceeded to get it back swearing to god as I was thanking him, I won't come back. Well the next night I went to another casino and lost it all. Made up a lie to my mom about meeting some girl off the internet who spent the night and while I was sleeping she went in my drawer and stole my money. The next day my mom felt so bad that she went and bought a new car so I could have her second car, a truck. She didn't have the money to get my car back. She just recently found out the truth about this story actually.

                                  Okay when I was about 22 I got a bookie now BAD IDEA. After doing okay for a few weeks, meeting this bookie every week and paying up or collecting money I had a bad week. I now owed like $1500 and at the time this was big time money. What do I do? Nothing. I don't contact the bookie and I don't think we had cell phones at the time so I just ignored his beeps on my beeper.After a litte while I stopped getting beeps so I never had to pay it back.

                                  Now I am 27 and just recently married. I again have a bookie, BAD IDEA. I was doing real well actaully had cashed for 3 weeks in a row for close to $5,000 total. The wife knows about the bookie and everything since we hadn't been married long or even together very long. During the nice run we went out and lived life, partied it up and paid some bills. Then the next week I had the weekend from hell. I was playing all straight plays in NFL and went on to lose like 13 straight games, including trying to double up for like a $5000 bet on the Sunday night game. After losing all these games and the $5000 I just made the last few weeks (which I don't have anymore). I didn't know what I was going to do. I didn't tell my wife anything that was happening. Well I decide I am going to try to double or nothing on Monday night. I didn't like the MNF game or my luck on football so I went with a NBA game. I did so much research and found to go $5000 on an over of an NBA game. Well at the end of the game I was like 5 points away and the team that was down 3 points got fouled at the buzzer on a three point attempt to try to tie the game. OMG I had a chance. Yeah fat chance. Guy misses the 2nd free throw and I end up losing. Now I was down like $11,000. Had to tell the wife. Told her that night, almost got a divorce. We had to borrow money from friends and family and got a payment plan with the bookie for the remaining. I promised the wife that I would never bet on sports again.

                                  About a year passes and I am playing online poker almost everyday. The wife know and I am secretly depositing/withdrawing money that she doesn't know about so she doesn't know how Im doing exactly. I go to a site that has a sports book and I had a good balance going so I say **** it I'm just gonna bet a game or two. Well I end up getting right back into it. This goes on for about a year and she has no idea. I too am floating checks on NetTeller and then it gets real bad. I now have a bookie through my dad "for a friend" is what I said. Everything is done online and I am the middle man for my "friend" and my dad. I was losing here and there and needed some cash. This is when I really got bad. My credit is bad and I couldn't get a CC for more then $300 from anyone. I decided to get 2 cards in my wife's name. They both came and had lines of like $2500 or so. I even had to call in and sound like a chick so they would activate them. Well I ended up maxing those out and my wife had no idea about them. One morning I woke up to my wife hold my cell phone asking me "what is this?" Acting like I had no idea what she was referring to when I was looking at a mobile web site for betting. I JUST downloaded this site a week ago for my phone. I told her that was old. She went on to say she knew I was lying that she saw these teams just played yesterday blah blah blah. I ended up just confessing and then went on to tell her all the stuff I was doing for the last 18 months including the card I got in her name. We almost broke up again "she should have" but I promised not to ever gamble again, again.

                                  Now I owed some money to one of friends and had for a while. We were in the process of selling our second car which we did one day. We got like $3500 for it. Problem was after I sold it I just held the money in my pocket the next day and while I was supposed to be at work I ended up sitting at the blackjack table at another casino. I was only gonna play like $200, that was the plan. All of a sudden after losing that $200, chased. Chased big time now I was down $2500 of the $3500 I had. I said **** it and went all in on one hand for the $1000 and of course I lost. I didn't know what to do. My wife was sure to leave me is what I was thinking. When she was at work I sent her a text the next night saying that our friend called me and said he really really needed the money we owed him, which was like $4000 so I told her I figured she would be okay with finally paying him since we had the money. She had no idea it was a lie. She didn't find out for a long time when I ****** up from something and came out with it.

                                  Just a side note I stopped gambling after this time and was doing really well. I didn't bet a game for over two years. Then one day last year my wife came home and talked to me about some "5Dimes.com" that has a live blackjack dealer that one of her friends told her about , I guess the guy won a lot of money. Told her I would help her set it up so she could play. Well she put $100 in and just watching her I wanted to play so bad. The next day I opened up my own account to play bj. Well couldn't do it because we had another account in the same house. I didn't know till after I put in the $100. What do I do? They have sports I decide to play a little. HOOKED AGAIN. I never put in too much money 100-200 or so. Few months pass and the wife and I have a talk because I have like 4 pay day loans out and also tell her about the dimes account. Told her I am going to do what I want to do and she can leave if she wants. We were having many many other problems that this wasn't the problem at the time.

                                  The one thing I have learned from all my **** ups is that I will never have a bookie again. At least when I lose money it is only money I can get my hands on and not some imaginary number that I have no way of obtaining if I lose.

                                  I know for sure there are more of these I just can't remember them all. I know I am a MAJOR degenerate though I have gotten much better then how I was.


                                  My favorite part:

                                  I decided to get 2 cards in my wife's name. They both came and had lines of like $2500 or so. I even had to call in and sound like a chick so they would activate them.
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                                  • Cuse0323
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #87
                                    This is what SBR is all about, reading others stories that make you feel better about your own degeneracy. Cheers fellas
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                                    • PickWinnerAllDay
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-31-11
                                      • 12722

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      This is what SBR is all about, reading others stories that make you feel better about your own degeneracy. Cheers fellas
                                      Holy shit EZ Money puts everyone to shame.

                                      That girl is either the most forgiving the girl in the world or not too bright!
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                                      • easyliving
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-25-12
                                        • 8876

                                        #89
                                        After I turned 18 I decided to get in on the action and deposited $200 into bodog. I was a junior in high school at the time. Lost the money in a month. told myself I'd be more patient next time and deposited another 200. I was more patient but blew that in 2 months time. I had a college savings account under my name my parents had opened for me. I had worked the past 2 summers and my parents had put in some cash as well and I had around 3k on it. I told myself I knew what I was doing wrong and I would fix things up and have better bankroll management and make smarter bets. Deposited 2.5k of the money into my Bodog account. Around the same time I started having an obsession with poker as well. Lost small chunks on sports gambling but the most damage was done in Poker. I was a complete donk at the tables and within 3 months I was down to $500. I learned my lesson and withdrew the cash. One of the worst mistakes I ever made. Parents saw the check and questioned me and found out what was going on. I would have rather lost that $500 as well. I had to work my entire senior year to replace the money I had lost and my parents have never trusted me with money since.
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                                        • paranoyd androyd
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-01-11
                                          • 6459

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Boner_18
                                          A guy I know was opperating a kenel back in 2008 and all his clients were Wall St. guys. Well, the clients dried up but he had about 2 litters worth of dogs that were growing fast and were unsold. HE was looking at thousands in food costs and he didn't want to lose his license. I offered to take the pups off his hands for a couple of grand... needless to say the only homes I found them were either at the bottom of a lake or in a dumpster behind the local Applebees.

                                          Took the 2k and tailed Venditto right off a cliff. Woof.
                                          I hope you get your throat slit.
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                                          • 19th Hole
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-22-09
                                            • 18927

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by easyliving
                                            After I turned 18 I decided to get in on the action and deposited $200 into bodog. I was a junior in high school at the time. Lost the money in a month. told myself I'd be more patient next time and deposited another 200. I was more patient but blew that in 2 months time. I had a college savings account under my name my parents had opened for me. I had worked the past 2 summers and my parents had put in some cash as well and I had around 3k on it. I told myself I knew what I was doing wrong and I would fix things up and have better bankroll management and make smarter bets. Deposited 2.5k of the money into my Bodog account. Around the same time I started having an obsession with poker as well. Lost small chunks on sports gambling but the most damage was done in Poker. I was a complete donk at the tables and within 3 months I was down to $500. I learned my lesson and withdrew the cash. One of the worst mistakes I ever made. Parents saw the check and questioned me and found out what was going on. I would have rather lost that $500 as well. I had to work my entire senior year to replace the money I had lost and my parents have never trusted me with money since.
                                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~`

                                            I like the 18 year old junior in high school part.
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                                            • AraiWa
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 05-23-12
                                              • 288

                                              #92
                                              Good stuff here. The only thing I've ever done is sell a camera to assist in putting together my bankroll.

                                              Money management, money management, money management, that's the key to not losing yer ass, at least, it's worked for me up until now. 2%-3% bets no matter what. No matter if I think it's the lock of the century, 2%-3%. It's not always easy but the alternative isn't easy either.
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                                              • hawley
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-10-10
                                                • 14270

                                                #93
                                                Some sick shit in this thread.
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                                                • AraiWa
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-23-12
                                                  • 288

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                                  sold some drugs...not proud but ya gotta stay in action
                                                  Oh, I didn't know this counts. If this counts, guilty as charged. About 20 years ago I moved quite large quantities of an illegal yummy white substance. I used to do all sorts of wild shite with that money. Forgot all about the wagering. Most of it went to going out to clubs and getting strange but I did manage to blow some of it with the bookies.
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                                                  • ZetaPsi808
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-18-08
                                                    • 12119

                                                    #95
                                                    wow this thread is fukking awesome.

                                                    good topic brock
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                                                    • GunShard
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-05-10
                                                      • 10031

                                                      #96
                                                      Hopefully Boner was just trolling and did not acually do that shit.
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                                                      • 19th Hole
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-22-09
                                                        • 18927

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by mrmarket
                                                        King Niche
                                                        grinder

                                                        Join Date: Sep 2008
                                                        Location: hero call blvd.
                                                        Posts: 621


                                                        Re: Degen Stories....
                                                        one time i was sitting in my house on my own i had just split up with my gf who was a crack head but she was nice.. the room was dark i was surrounded by bottles of piss half eaten sandwiches i even had a crust behind my ear i was quite sad because i was busto and heartbroken i thought maybe we would make it work and she would be my main squeese anyway she left me for a crack dealer..so at this point im feelin like ten dewey heart aching empty busto feeling and linger tilt from stacking off with a flush draw because some crotch monkey over bets the pot and i run into the swinging blade and throw up 2 clanging bricks and I just punch my ****in monitor almost put my fist through it and then i kicked my coffee table but not like a regular person no no no..i have to hit it as hard as I can with my ****ing shin!!!! wtff was i thinking im not van damme or some **** that hurt so bad i collapsed in agony and started crying i just laid there whimpering in agony sobbing and eventually the pain eased off but i had blood running all the way down my leg..i just laid there on the carpet for 2 hours staring into space i even knocked one out while laying in the recovery position i felt so lazy like a lazy slob and i smelt so rank like chinese food in a dumpster for days..i eventually get up im wearing stripey boxers and half of them is up my ass ive got my ass cheek showing but i dont care i sit at my pc and watch some 200/400 on betfair wishing i was in the game..i kept sitting at a table hoping i would have cash in my account i actually prayed to mary magdagascar..i check my emails and boooom titan poker have put free money in my damn account!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woooooooooooooo..it felt like a blessing. Its like 5 dollars..so I go straight to max but in 5c/10c or some BS where u get nit on nits and I run that **** up to 20 in no time, then I but in at 25/50 and I hit a big overset and and I make some decent bluffs I get my stack to 145..at this point im thinking ok just play this mother****ing cool dont be a degen waste of lung capacity but i say *** it i will take a shot at 2/4...

                                                        so I pick the easiest table luckily for me they are all easy and first hand I shove with the doyle brunson just for good luck everyone folds secnd hand i get AA..I shove I get 2 callers an Iwin and im oer 400 i say**** this and i goto 5/10 witha short stack what else am i suppose to do..i run this upto 3k pretty easily and step up to 10/20 and in 3 hours I have 13k..then it happened..I GET KING ****ING KING and some guy called han solo (TILTED) raises me to 30 dollars I re raise to 180 He raises to 550 I call planning to shove any flop flop comes AAA ..he says to me in chat I HAVE IT and bets the pot im like wtf ..thats areverse reversal bluff damn *** he must have it **** i cant fold i felt my heart speed up kind of like a panic attack how can i fold this my dad is in my ear saying DONT CALL he has the 4 of a kind im like no dad let me play my own damn hands why cant you go and play poker with otis redding always ****** interfering ..and i start arguing with him cant believe i have gone from 5 dollars to over a 20k pot in just hours..I call and he flips over QQ..I FIST PUMP LIKE IM OHN MACKENROE SHOUTING NOW WHAT NOW WHAT DAD HE DIDNT SAY **** TURN QUEEN RIVER QUEEENNNNNNNNNNN>>OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I MWAS SO ****IN MAD I STARTED SPITTINGup BLOOD FOAMING UP ...PUNCHED MY SELF in teh side of the head AND STARTED SHOUTING AT MY DAD INSIDE MY HEAD IM LIKE **** OFF LEAVE ME ALONE GET OUT OF My HEAD.. OMGG IM BUSTO AGAIN I FEEL LIKE A WORM WHO HAS HAS BIN SHOVELLED WHEN THE GROUND IS COLD OR MABE STUCK HIS HEAD IN A TURD..I FELT LIKE SUCH A ****INg DEGEN I COULD HAVE PLAYED 5/10 with 13k so easily and made decent rake and maybe found me some new pussy easily when i tell em im back to being a pro...first i burnt my hand on the stove on purpose omggg i was so wasted i went out in the backyard stark naked i started climbing the trees and just trying to get back to nature and forget the damn poker..loking back id lost my damn mind that pot had eloctrocuted my noodle..it started to rain and i looked so pathetic i couldnt even get a crack whore to stay with me and I had a big hemmaroid and my white pastey body stood out under the grey sky i must have looked like a sagging bag of milk...

                                                        ..all i wanted to do was grind for 18 hours a day and fester in my own filth and live the life of a poker pro grind on the mind till i die make my tomb a house of cards.. i wanted to give up so bad.. now i was busto and i couldnt see a break in the clouds or any hope the next day when i woke up i had to masturbate just so i could get out of bed i browsed 2+2 and went back to bed for 3 days..I didnt even get up to go peepee i just pissed the bed because i was busto and nothing else mattered..i kept reminded myself that atleast i nwasnt the fat sloth puppet in that movie seven where he gets locked in a bat cave and is made to eat spaghetti till his guts spill open..but this didnt make me feel any better..
                                                        whats urine and the smell of a cheesy ritz cracker ass crack when you lost a 26k pot? i didnt give a **** about pissing on myself by that point..i could of had a milllion dingelberries attatched to my ass i wouldnt have cared...i was so upset the lowest point for so long even lower than when i talked myself out of a guy giving me a BJ for $100 I just couldnt do it..i felt lower than when my mom force fed me flowers..I almost killed myself on day 2 when metallica came on the radio..i dont know how I ever made it out alive..i always swear to this day it was just the hope of being back in action someday..it lifted me out of the bottomless pit and gave me reason to live and breathe..never quit guys..not even when they are dragging your face through the ****..there is always someone worse off than you..like a guy with a glass eye with a fish in it....keep grind on the mind


                                                        The whole thread is gold

                                                        http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...tories-447948/


                                                        Holy sh1t !!!
                                                        This drops the definition of degeneracy from the rat infested sewer to the inner circle of hell.

                                                        Not only is King Niche wearing the only crown issued to a degen....He has the makings of
                                                        a scriptwriter for the present day apocalypse.

                                                        William Seward Burroughs II meet Charles Bukowski
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                                                        • SBRMAN23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-07-11
                                                          • 6905

                                                          #98
                                                          Lmfao this is classic
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                                                          • tony_come
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-31-10
                                                            • 21695

                                                            #99
                                                            I recycle cans/bottles to stay in action
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                                                            • icancount2one
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-05-10
                                                              • 1507

                                                              #100
                                                              I work on spreadsheets and simulators for hours and hours sometimes into the morning.
                                                              Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 04-04-11
                                                                • 37202

                                                                #101
                                                                EZ Money, u are a mess. Poster-of-Month!

                                                                Boner, u are a sick fuq. If those were my dogs, we'd have a big problem. F u, man.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • Ez Money 77
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-23-11
                                                                  • 2585

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Yeah I've made many many many mistakes. Now I never have a bank roll of over $1500 in my dimes account at any time. I know myself and know that I have most every cent that's in my account In action everyday so I just don't leave it in there.
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                                                                  • Emily_Haines
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-14-09
                                                                    • 15917

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                                    Holy shit EZ Money puts everyone to shame.

                                                                    That girl is either the most forgiving the girl in the world or not too bright!
                                                                    He does not even come close to Brock. Even though he did some scummy things it was never for huge amounts of money that Brock has done. The thing is he knew he was going to lose but with Brock he is always the optimist thinking he will always win when in all actuality he is probably the worst capper on the site.
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                                                                    • Ez Money 77
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-23-11
                                                                      • 2585

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                      He does not even come close to Brock. Even though he did some scummy things it was never for huge amounts of money that Brock has done. The thing is he knew he was going to lose but with Brock he is always the optimist thinking he will always win when in all actuality he is probably the worst capper on the site.
                                                                      Hey I never thought I was gonna lose wtf lol
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                                                                      • BIGDAY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 02-17-10
                                                                        • 48245

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Wow. Don't know what to think of this thread.

                                                                        Amazing.
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