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  • TheLock
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-06-08
    • 14427

    #141
    donjuan/durito

    is it really necessary to continue baiting the OP?

    we get it. you're smart and we are stupid wastes of oxygen only here to be ridiculed and laughed at by the almighty all knowing gods of sportsbetting.

    satisfied yet?
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    • Hoja Verdes
      SBR MVP
      • 08-23-06
      • 1403

      #142
      Originally posted by pokernut9999
      Please explain one thing to me. Why can one not bet 2 games that are played at the same time ?
      Because then you can't use his Martingale variation of escalating bet size based on the outcome of the previous bet rather than on each successive bet's relative value.
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      • St. Andrew
        SBR MVP
        • 02-23-08
        • 2265

        #143
        Originally posted by pokernut9999
        Please explain one thing to me. Why can one not bet 2 games that are played at the same time ?
        Because the results of each game determine how much to bet on the next one. If you have two going at the same time they could cancel each other out, ruining the pyramid, and it also opens the door to a lack of discipline. The system is designed for winning streaks.

        It's in Bankroll Management, first post.
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        • pokernut9999
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-25-07
          • 12757

          #144
          Damn rjt !!!!! You are only going to be up +69 units after tonight , maybe you should start following some of these rules.
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          • durito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #145
            Bankroll Management

            You sure I can't book your bets?

            You can pick from Matchbook, Pinnacle, 5dimes, Cris, or Greek lines
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            • donjuan
              SBR MVP
              • 08-29-07
              • 3993

              #146
              is it really necessary to continue baiting the OP?

              we get it. you're smart and we are stupid wastes of oxygen only here to be ridiculed and laughed at by the almighty all knowing gods of sportsbetting.

              satisfied yet?
              I'm not baiting anyone but rather asking pertinent questions. You're right in that the vast majority of posters on SBR should be reading more than writing though.
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              • rjt721
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-06-07
                • 7929

                #147
                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                Damn rjt !!!!! You are only going to be up +69 units after tonight , maybe you should start following some of these rules.
                No more totals, no faves higher than -139, no more RLs and no more betting games played at the same time. What was I thinking?
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                • St. Andrew
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-23-08
                  • 2265

                  #148
                  Originally posted by durito
                  Yet you changed your entire system midway through the thread when you decided to only play two game parlays based on the results of a gigantic sample of 27 parlays
                  With an average return of +160, I don't even need to hit a high percentage of 2-teamers to be profitable. Yet I predict that not only will I hit 60%, I will also mount several win streaks of 5-7 games. We'll just have to see what happens. I need goals in order to stay disciplined.
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #149
                    You think you can win 60% at +160?

                    Now I've really heard it all.

                    How about this:

                    I will give you 3 to 1 odds you can't hit 60% of your two team parlays over the next 50 plays (assuming average payout odds of +160 or higher).
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                    • Hoja Verdes
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-23-06
                      • 1403

                      #150
                      Originally posted by St. Andrew
                      With an average return of +160, I don't even need to hit a high percentage of 2-teamers to be profitable. Yet I predict that not only will I hit 60%, I will also mount several win streaks of 5-7 games. We'll just have to see what happens. I need goals in order to stay disciplined.
                      That's a bold prediction. Just promise to post all your plays here so we can follow your progress over the next few weeks.
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                      • smitch124
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-19-08
                        • 12566

                        #151
                        Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                        That's a bold prediction. Just promise to post all your plays here so we can follow your progress over the next few weeks.
                        He's been posting every play, all season.
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                        • St. Andrew
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-23-08
                          • 2265

                          #152
                          Originally posted by durito
                          You think you can win 60% at +160?

                          Now I've really heard it all.

                          How about this:

                          I will give you 3 to 1 odds you can't hit 60% of your two team parlays over the next 50 plays (assuming average payout odds of +160 or higher).
                          This is where I tell you that this is my hobby, but if you want to make a serious wager with me I will challenge you straight-up for any amount of money that you specify. Are you interested in doing that?
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                          • TheLock
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-06-08
                            • 14427

                            #153
                            Originally posted by durito
                            You think you can win 60% at +160?

                            Now I've really heard it all.

                            How about this:

                            I will give you 3 to 1 odds you can't hit 60% of your two team parlays over the next 50 plays (assuming average payout odds of +160 or higher).

                            60% will be really tough.

                            What odds would you give him if he hit 55%?
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                            • donjuan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-07
                              • 3993

                              #154
                              You think you can win 60% at +160?

                              Now I've really heard it all.

                              How about this:

                              I will give you 3 to 1 odds you can't hit 60% of your two team parlays over the next 50 plays (assuming average payout odds of +160 or higher).
                              Bingo. Make this thread at least worthwhile/backed up with something. I'd be up for that prop bet as well.
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #155
                                Originally posted by St. Andrew
                                This is where I tell you that this is my hobby, but if you want to make a serious wager with me I will challenge you straight-up for any amount of money that you specify. Are you interested in doing that?
                                For the terms of the bet I offered, or for something else?
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                                • TheLock
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-06-08
                                  • 14427

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by smitch124
                                  He's been posting every play, all season.


                                  This.
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                                  • jtuck
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-18-08
                                    • 2051

                                    #157
                                    Proper Bankroll Management

                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

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                                    • donjuan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-29-07
                                      • 3993

                                      #158
                                      This is where I tell you that this is my hobby
                                      In other words, "I am not willing to back up a single thing I say with money."
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                                      • St. Andrew
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-23-08
                                        • 2265

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by durito
                                        For the terms of the bet I offered, or for something else?
                                        For you and me one-on-one. I'll set the terms. My money promise is rock-solid.
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                                        • St. Andrew
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-23-08
                                          • 2265

                                          #160
                                          Deafening Silence
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-19-07
                                            • 31794

                                            #161
                                            "This could go on forever Baby"
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                                            • rjt721
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-06-07
                                              • 7929

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by St. Andrew
                                              Deafening Silence


                                              It's been three minutes.
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                                              • durito
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-03-06
                                                • 13173

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by St. Andrew
                                                For you and me one-on-one. I'll set the terms. My money promise is rock-solid.
                                                Propose a bet in good faith, and I will evaluate it and determine my strategy from there like I do with any bet.

                                                I've already offered you 3 to 1 on something you think you can do. What is wrong with that specific bet?
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                                                • donjuan
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-29-07
                                                  • 3993

                                                  #164
                                                  Deafening Silence
                                                  Keep moving the goalposts. Why wouldn't you take +300 on hitting 60% at +160 when you say you will do that (presumably easily)?
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                                                  • TheLock
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-06-08
                                                    • 14427

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                    In other words, "I am not willing to back up a single thing I say with money."

                                                    AKA, "Baiting".


                                                    This thread is starting to get back on track a little, don't dummy it back up.
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                                                    • durito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                      • 13173

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by TheLock
                                                      60% will be really tough.

                                                      What odds would you give him if he hit 55%?
                                                      Ignoring the parlay for a minute,

                                                      55% at +160 is an edge of 43%. These kind of edges just don't exist in sportsbetting.

                                                      If they did, you could turn a $5,000 bankroll into $280,776,459 in just 100 bets by following the kelly criterion.
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                                                      • St. Andrew
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-23-08
                                                        • 2265

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by durito
                                                        Propose a bet in good faith, and I will evaluate it and determine my strategy from there like I do with any bet.

                                                        I've already offered you 3 to 1 on something you think you can do. What is wrong with that specific bet?
                                                        Alot of my parlays are in the +150 range. Go that low and you're on. 60% from now until the end of the year, and I have to make a minimum of 25 bets. If you're telling me you will give me three to one on that, I will take it.
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                                                        • St. Andrew
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-23-08
                                                          • 2265

                                                          #168
                                                          Byrd is about to get exploded on
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                                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-19-07
                                                            • 31794

                                                            #169
                                                            yeah maybe but don't bust a nut on yourself just yet .................
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                                                            • St. Andrew
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-23-08
                                                              • 2265

                                                              #170
                                                              Harden may throw a no-hitter if he can keep the pitch count down. D-Backs aren't in the same zip code.
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                                                              • Hoja Verdes
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-23-06
                                                                • 1403

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by smitch124
                                                                He's been posting every play, all season.
                                                                Straight wagers, sure.

                                                                I predict that his win percentage falls off precipitously now that he's made the decision to play 2-gamers only. But I definitely wish him the best of luck and will be rooting for him to pull of the unthinkable...if he does, I'll paypal him $100 (up from my original $50), no strings attached.

                                                                Again, St. Andrew, PLEASE be sure to post all these 2-gamers here so we can see just how good you are.
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                                                                • St. Andrew
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-23-08
                                                                  • 2265

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                                                                  Again, St. Andrew, PLEASE be sure to post all these 2-gamers here so we can see just how good you are.
                                                                  It's always been there, all 28 that I've already placed. Why stop now?
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                                                                  • TheLock
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-06-08
                                                                    • 14427

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Hoja

                                                                    I'm like 99% sure he has posted ALL of his 2 teamers in 2008 (that's what you're alluding to right?)
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                                                                    • durito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                                      • 13173

                                                                      #174
                                                                      25 bets is an insanely small sample size.

                                                                      So is 50, but I'm willing to take my chances there.

                                                                      I propose:

                                                                      1) 50 2 team parlays from now till the end of the baseball season or till you hit 50
                                                                      2) Use lines from the Greek -- you must post in a thread we will create with the odds of the two games at the time (so they can be verified via SBRlines in case of discrepancies)
                                                                      3) Your parlay odds can be +140 and above.
                                                                      4) If you win 30 parlays or more you win, 29 or less and I win.

                                                                      I will pay 3/1 odds.
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                                                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                                        • 31794

                                                                        #175
                                                                        the odds on this kinda Scenario happening is like 30/1 ............ no ?
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