Changes coming to the SBR Points program, August 1st.

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  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #71
    Do you not see the obvious problem this will create? What's to stop someone from open shoving 500 points 5x's to get quick folds at the small buy in tables?
    Please let me know when you are going to try this...I'd love to be at the table.

    Yes you can go all in to try to get through your rollover. You can also get called and lose it all. It will be fun and thats what its all about.

    As far as US guys playing and winning or losing in real money games; the US guy starts with loyalty points and he is free to try to run them up. The key is he never bought anything. If he loses he will have lost nothing so he did not really gamble...he simply participated in a loyalty program.
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    • borednaz
      SBR MVP
      • 08-28-10
      • 3809

      #72
      Originally posted by gryfyn1
      that wont work, poker rollovers generally only considered money that is put into the pot as "wagered" uncalled bets dont count.
      Thanks for that info,
      but that only handles one problem.
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      • borednaz
        SBR MVP
        • 08-28-10
        • 3809

        #73
        Originally posted by SBR_John
        Please let me know when you are going to try this...I'd love to be at the table.
        John I've seen your calling range, so for sure if I'm going all in on a shove fest I want your call
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        • a4u2fear
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-29-10
          • 8147

          #74
          If you plan on poker rollover, there better be tourneys on weekends and SnGs all the time. Ring games really suck when you're on a shit streak and SnGs lets people play comfortably while earning rollover.
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          • Bill Dozer
            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
            • 07-12-05
            • 10894

            #75
            Originally posted by pittmatt80
            That's all well and good, just don't like the fact that SBR will be buying and selling points. Also was wondering where the $200 "donation" will be going.
            Being able to buy points will make it more fun. You clean a guy out in open play poker and he decides to come at you again and reups...more action.
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #76
              Originally posted by borednaz
              John I've seen your calling range, so for sure if I'm going all in on a shove fest I want your call
              We discussed this dynamic a lot. Let's see how it plays out. I think the experienced players will be licking their chops at the thought of someone trying to sneak through a roll over and grab a couple of 5 point blinds with an all-in bluff.
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              • Wiggums5
                SBR MVP
                • 12-05-10
                • 2409

                #77
                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                Being able to buy points will make it more fun. You clean a guy out in open play poker and he decides to come at you again and reups...more action.
                It will also make looking at the SBR bank account more fun for you guys
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82665

                  #78
                  I would be more concerned with this scenario for poker rollovers. Pavy and JJ earned 500 points playing poker in a tourney. They go to the ring tables after joining a chat room. They proceed to play by themselves while discussing each others hands on chat until they both rollover 5X their 500 points by equally losing and winning the same amount of hands. Sure they will lose some small rake but they will roll it over in 5 minutes or less.
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                  • blackbeSSt
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-06-08
                    • 9398

                    #79
                    forgive if its already been asked, but are we still getting our 100 points per year we've been here on our anny?
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                    • minet123
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-17-07
                      • 10280

                      #80
                      How does one rollover points won in a sports contests ?
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                      • THE HITMAN
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-16-07
                        • 2393

                        #81
                        OK, whatever you guys say is cool
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                        • ACoochy
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-19-09
                          • 13949

                          #82
                          Looking forward to using MoneyBookers account for some point action Lobby ur pollies USA, MB is the shiz and atm they are giving away free BBQ per day promo Thankyou SBR
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                          • SBR_John
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-12-05
                            • 16471

                            #83
                            Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                            forgive if its already been asked, but are we still getting our 100 points per year we've been here on our anny?
                            Yes of course. If for any reason you did not get yours please PM Lou.

                            Pavy, could happen. Just like betting on red to get through a casino rollover. If we see anyone breaking collusion rules we will reserve the right to limit their participation in SBR poker. I think it will be fine but we will adapt as needed.
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                            • SBR_John
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 16471

                              #84
                              Originally posted by minet123
                              How does one rollover points won in a sports contests ?
                              lets say you come in 15th in BTP. Let's say it pays 2,000 points. You will be required to wager 5x or 10,000 points before you can haul them into the store.

                              Over 90% of you guys play way more than 5x anything you win around here. This rule nips at the ultimate angle shooter who wants to supplement his food budget with pizza.
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                              • downsouth
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-13-11
                                • 11580

                                #85
                                How will poker rollover be calculated?
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                                • saints7011
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-21-09
                                  • 5544

                                  #86
                                  still refuse to answer "what's the status of sportsbook cash/freeplays" for US players...
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                                  • doublej95
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 14094

                                    #87
                                    effing stupid. why in the world would I want to donate $200 to SBR when I could deposit it in a book that I currently use. No point in going with a sponsored book when it makes sense to go with a book I have used for years and have no problem with.

                                    EPIC FAIL by SBR.
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                                    • jgray
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-06-09
                                      • 3599

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      I would be more concerned with this scenario for poker rollovers. Pavy and JJ earned 500 points playing poker in a tourney. They go to the ring tables after joining a chat room. They proceed to play by themselves while discussing each others hands on chat until they both rollover 5X their 500 points by equally losing and winning the same amount of hands. Sure they will lose some small rake but they will roll it over in 5 minutes or less.
                                      The folks around here would rat you two out quickly. Point fraud detectives love that shit. You might get away with it every now and again, but you'd be caught. Posters have too much time on their hands.
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                                      • Wiggums5
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-05-10
                                        • 2409

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by saints7011
                                        still refuse to answer "what's the status of sportsbook cash/freeplays" for US players...
                                        one of the admins did you retard...he said he doesn't know shit yet and when he does he will let us know immediately.

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                                        • Wiggums5
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-05-10
                                          • 2409

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by doublej95
                                          effing stupid. why in the world would I want to donate $200 to SBR when I could deposit it in a book that I currently use. No point in going with a sponsored book when it makes sense to go with a book I have used for years and have no problem with.

                                          EPIC FAIL by SBR.
                                          dude, he said the $200 would be going to a charity
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                                          • saints7011
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-21-09
                                            • 5544

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Wiggums5
                                            one of the admins did you retard...he said he doesn't know shit yet and when he does he will let us know immediately.

                                            link it up wise guy...



                                            dulas
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                                            • saints7011
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-21-09
                                              • 5544

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Wiggums5
                                              dude, he said the $200 would be going to a charity
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                                              • minet123
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-07
                                                • 10280

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                lets say you come in 15th in BTP. Let's say it pays 2,000 points. You will be required to wager 5x or 10,000 points before you can haul them into the store.

                                                Over 90% of you guys play way more than 5x anything you win around here. This rule nips at the ultimate angle shooter who wants to supplement his food budget with pizza.
                                                Ok How will SBR or myself Know the difference when i transfer them from my wallet to the sportsbook
                                                I.e. I have 2000 points in my wallet before I come in 15th in BTP
                                                than another 2000 points show up in my book wallet
                                                will the software automatically know the diffrence
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                                                • doublej95
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-26-10
                                                  • 14094

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Wiggums5
                                                  dude, he said the $200 would be going to a charity

                                                  to John's hot wife shopping fund.
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                                                  • Wiggums5
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-05-10
                                                    • 2409

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by saints7011
                                                    link it up wise guy... dulas
                                                    do you read any of the posts in a thread before you post in it?

                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                    • shari91
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                      • 32661

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by saints7011
                                                      link it up wise guy... dulas
                                                      It's in this thread.

                                                      aslud
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                                                      • saints7011
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-21-09
                                                        • 5544

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Wiggums5
                                                        do you read any of the posts in a thread before you post in it?

                                                        http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...l#post10708733

                                                        I dont see it...




                                                        dulas
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                                                        • Doc JS
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-15-06
                                                          • 6885

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by saints7011
                                                          I dont see it...




                                                          dulas
                                                          Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                          We are studying the price. I think we may peg them at 7 cents.

                                                          There is no news on sportsbook cash for US citizens btw. The moment there is any update it will not be withheld.
                                                          It's post 43 in this thread...
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                                                          • jonmic
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-25-06
                                                            • 685

                                                            #99
                                                            i like the changes, should be good long term
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                                                            • ttwarrior1
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 06-23-09
                                                              • 28450

                                                              #100
                                                              why would someone donate 200 to a charity when they can put it in a book to gamble. Id like to see who does this over a book

                                                              Not that Im against charities , its just that most charities are in peoples names for a reason. There will never be a cure for cancer or athritis simply because they aren't even looking, but they will take your money
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                                                              • opie1988
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-12-10
                                                                • 23429

                                                                #101
                                                                I'd like to ask that one of the charities be "The Human Fund- money for people"

                                                                Thanks in advance.
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                                                                • Grandmaster B
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-05-09
                                                                  • 6035

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                                                  why would someone donate 200 to a charity when they can put it in a book to gamble. Id like to see who does this over a book

                                                                  Not that Im against charities , its just that most charities are in peoples names for a reason. There will never be a cure for cancer or athritis simply because they aren't even looking, but they will take your money
                                                                  sharpest post by you to date here on SBR
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                                                                  • minet123
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-17-07
                                                                    • 10280

                                                                    #103
                                                                    And what about contest that we buy into with SBR points that have no added points from SBR do they have a 5x rollover now
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                                                                    • FishFace5
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-15-09
                                                                      • 1768

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by ngates815
                                                                      Come on now. We're not actually "better" or more "valuable" than you. We just give people shit, obviously not you, because I've never seen you post before. But to say that Points mean nothing, and since there is no Sportsbook cash available to US players is a stupid reason not to become a PRO. I understand you've been here before the points, so you're obviously not just one of the non-pros who signed up just to get "free" points to gamble with here, because they are too broke to gamble real money. 12 X 365 = 4XXX Now that is what PRO'S get for points. Amazon gift card is 1050 or so points. 4200 points for 200 worth of gift cards. It costs 200 to become a pro, there is no restriction on that 200 you deposit, it's just your money to gamble with like usual. BUT now you are also receiving 200 dollars in gift cards just for gambling your own money that you'd be gambling anyways. Whoa, there is actual perks to becoming a PRO. So don't say points mean nothing.
                                                                      Where in my post did I even mention the value of the points? I said I dont have the need for a new book and personally don't care about the points.
                                                                      I also never criticized anyone for being a pro, there's no reason to.
                                                                      My point was simply to take a shot at the posters who talk about a "PRO" status like its an elite club.
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                                                                      • Duff85
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-15-10
                                                                        • 2920

                                                                        #105
                                                                        The US posters who are whinging at SBR about no free plays and not being able to buy points - take that up with your government... its not an SBR call! Either that or move into the free world (Canada, UK, Australia, NZ, even Mexicans can gamble without government intervention).
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