UFC fights getting kind of boring?

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  • RaiderNation MMA
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-05-10
    • 598

    #36
    saturdays ufc acutally turned out pretty good imo
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    • Poppa Catfish
      SBR MVP
      • 09-22-10
      • 3352

      #37
      Originally posted by RaiderNation MMA
      saturdays ufc acutally turned out pretty good imo
      yep, agreed. I think the novelty is just wearing off for some casual fans
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #38
        Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
        Personally I think it's a combination of expanding too quickly on the number of fighters now in the UFC, and pumping out PPV's every 3 weeks or so. Times are a changing in the UFC, as the old guard such as Liddell, Machida, Penn, Courture, etc. are on the way out, and the young guns such as Jones, Velasquez, Rua etc. are taking over. The only guys still on their game from the "old" stable are Silva and GSP. But your point is valid as Dana is trying to make the UFC a global brand and he puts cards in places like Australia, Dubai, Germany, etc. and then he tries to put home town boys on the cards to make them more appealing. The problem is he's watering down his product. People want to see the headliners, not the clowns.
        I wouldnt say Shogun is a "young gun" dude!
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #39
          Originally posted by RaiderNation MMA
          saturdays ufc acutally turned out pretty good imo
          Ye I dont get all the hate!? Were the Pearson/Fisher and Gustaffson/Te HUna fights boring? The Noke fight certainly wasnt boring, Lytle/Ebersole was quite entertaining (and an upset so not predictable), Bisping/Rivera couldnt of been anymore entertaining for me...it had profanities, illegal knee, spitting, and a finish...even tho Bisping is perceived to be a decision artist...what more do these people want?! Moreover, witnessed a great upset in Siver vs GSot...if GSot had of submitted Siver everybody would be sayin how boring and predictable tht fight was!
          Last edited by Vaughany; 02-28-11, 05:53 AM.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #40
            Originally posted by shaggy3000
            its rigged now to keep fan favorites fighting. if they went at it all out they would have no clue who would win, so how could they build up a huge drawing card. if you watched last night you would believe what im saying. Penn got his ass beat the final round and they called it a draw. fans like to see him fight so they gave him the draw. he said at the end of the fight he didnt win or deserve to win.

            you think this would be a billion dollar sport if they just let everyone go at it as hard as they can? how could they build hype for a fight if they had a bunch of upsets all the time?
            This is a ridiculous argument! Surely the Edgar vs Penn fight (and rematch) would of been "rigged" in Penn's favour then seein as Edgar was the big underdog, and is not a casual fan favourite?!
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #41
              Originally posted by Smoke
              Clay guida is one of the only fighters that is actually fun to watch. Dude is high intensity the whole way.

              Today ufc kinda sucks compared to the old ufc back in the mid 90's. Back then there were no gloves, no weight classes, and you could wear a fukkin karate uniform if u wanted. Also back then I don't think the refs could stop the fights. It was either stopped by tapout or throwing the towel.

              I miss the old ufc but I guess the current ufc is better than nothing. If it wasn't for Dana white the ufc would be dead
              This kind of sums up the whole issue! You perceive Guida as being a fun fighter to watch while many others perceive Guida to be a boring fighter!
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              • Cap dat 4ss
                Restricted User
                • 10-11-10
                • 3665

                #42
                The fight isn't judged on most damage done or most dominant round, it is judged round by round, hence the draw. I would rather see a draw than an underserving fighter win just to have a winner.

                As for the fights getting boring I don't agree. Having a background in both MT and BJJ I appreciate the art and enjoy the technical aspects, the footwork, head movement, positioning, transitions, submission defense and such. Not just the KO or submission.
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                • Poppa Catfish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-22-10
                  • 3352

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Cap dat 4ss
                  The fight isn't judged on most damage done or most dominant round, it is judged round by round, hence the draw. I would rather see a draw than an underserving fighter win just to have a winner.

                  As for the fights getting boring I don't agree. Having a background in both MT and BJJ I appreciate the art and enjoy the technical aspects, the footwork, head movement, positioning, transitions, submission defense and such. Not just the KO or submission.
                  Well said.

                  Fights are getting boring I suppose you guys either don't remember or weren't around for the early days without time limits, now some of those turned into 8-15 minute grind fests.
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                  • kiefynugs
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-20-10
                    • 572

                    #44
                    man penn/fitch was the highlight of the night for me despite the draw and the money loss. Watching Penn scoring TDs on fitch was mind boggling and I don't think anybody--fitch most of all--expected that fight to go down the way it did
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                      Well said.

                      Fights are getting boring I suppose you guys either don't remember or weren't around for the early days without time limits, now some of those turned into 8-15 minute grind fests.
                      ha yeah, I dont think cardio had been invented back then had it?!
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #46
                        Originally posted by kiefynugs
                        man penn/fitch was the highlight of the night for me despite the draw and the money loss. Watching Penn scoring TDs on fitch was mind boggling and I don't think anybody--fitch most of all--expected that fight to go down the way it did
                        ha Yep tht was another thing that happened which wasnt expected on tht card! Guess it's just the culture we live in...all about highlighting the negatives while overlooking the positives..some people are just never happy!
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                        • kickenchicken
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-17-10
                          • 430

                          #47
                          the ufc has gone way to mainstream, too commercial... to many people just in it to get a 1 day payday
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                          • PingPong
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-10-08
                            • 988

                            #48
                            yea fitch is an amazing athlete. i wouldn't be surprised if NFL teams are calling him lol
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                            • Smoke
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-09-09
                              • 48111

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              This kind of sums up the whole issue! You perceive Guida as being a fun fighter to watch while many others perceive Guida to be a boring fighter!
                              How the fukk could people consider guida borin? Dude scraps the whole fight. The fukkin crowd chants his name when he fights. Anyone that doesn't like guida either hasn't seen all his fights or likes fights that go to the ground
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Smoke
                                How the fukk could people consider guida borin? Dude scraps the whole fight. The fukkin crowd chants his name when he fights. Anyone that doesn't like guida either hasn't seen all his fights or likes fights that go to the ground
                                I agree, but search the forums and u'll see plenty of dudes predicting Guida to win by "boring lay n pray" against the likes of Gomi and Dos Anjos.
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                                • terpkeg
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-26-09
                                  • 2364

                                  #51
                                  Fitch is getting so much hate for his performance. I thought it was admirable to be down 2-0 against a great fighter like Penn and completely take over and dominant the third round to save his ass from an L. Everyone says he should have been going for the finish, like it is just that easy. If Penn manages to get back up, he probably losses the fight and some of those elbows he was dropping were doing some serious damage.

                                  I thought it was an exciting night of fights.
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                                  • freelee
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-02-10
                                    • 751

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Smoke
                                    How the fukk could people consider guida borin? Dude scraps the whole fight. The fukkin crowd chants his name when he fights. Anyone that doesn't like guida either hasn't seen all his fights or likes fights that go to the ground
                                    against Diaz guida didn't throw a punch, a kick, or go for any submissions the whole fight and won by decision no joke
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                                    • Pabinator
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-04-09
                                      • 1238

                                      #53
                                      If you think UFC is boring, you must think boxing is watching paint dry
                                      Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                      • colchonero10
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 11-26-10
                                        • 66

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Pabinator
                                        If you think UFC is boring, you must think boxing is watching paint dry
                                        did you see the showtime fights on saturday?

                                        woof.
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                                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-25-08
                                          • 7237

                                          #55
                                          what a bunch of whinners. Boring??? you had great standup figths with Pearson/Fisher, Siver/Sotir, Lytle/Ebersole. Some Ko's Bisping and Hunt. Some subs Noke and Gustafsson.

                                          You cry because Fitch/Penn was more of a wrestling and ground and pound fight. Yea because in the old UFC days wich you say were so great there were no wrestlers, like Ortiz, Couture, or Hughes. guys who main evented old UFC PPV's
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                                          • keyboarding
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-30-09
                                            • 6817

                                            #56
                                            I really don't get all the hate either. There was a decent mix of everything with this card. Either people have expectations that are too high or really aren't fans of the sport and don't understand it.

                                            Next card is even better.
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                                            • snake11eyes
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-28-10
                                              • 618

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                              what a bunch of whinners. Boring??? you had great standup figths with Pearson/Fisher, Siver/Sotir, Lytle/Ebersole. Some Ko's Bisping and Hunt. Some subs Noke and Gustafsson.

                                              You cry because Fitch/Penn was more of a wrestling and ground and pound fight. Yea because in the old UFC days wich you say were so great there were no wrestlers, like Ortiz, Couture, or Hughes. guys who main evented old UFC PPV's
                                              Well said. Overall the card was not bad. Everyone knows what they're getting with Fitch. Nothing you can do about it.
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                                              • omalley21
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 908

                                                #58
                                                Clay guida is the most boring fighter in mma. I ******* hate watchin him fight. He gets all hyped up before the fight and then............

                                                He hugs his opponent and doesnt do anything for 15 minutes. **** clay guida and **** anyone who thinks hes exciting.
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                                                • kiefynugs
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-20-10
                                                  • 572

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by omalley21
                                                  Clay guida is the most boring fighter in mma. I ******* hate watchin him fight. He gets all hyped up before the fight and then............

                                                  He hugs his opponent and doesnt do anything for 15 minutes. **** clay guida and **** anyone who thinks hes exciting.
                                                  so you didn't like his sub over gomi or his destruction of dos anjos recently?
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #60
                                                    never watched that steroid shit

                                                    real boxing once in a while
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                                                    • ttrace35
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-30-10
                                                      • 10828

                                                      #61
                                                      You can't deny that these fights aren't as exciting as they used to be a few years ago. Hardcore mma fans will still enjoy, but how can you guys sit here and honestly say that these shows are good or better than they used to be? Its simply not true. Whatever the reason. Evolving sport or whatever. A ufc event 5 or 6 years ago, was a very big deal. Now not so much.
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                                                      • k13
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-16-10
                                                        • 18077

                                                        #62
                                                        The only exciting thing that happen this year in ufc is GSP getting KO'ed big time in the sky dome.

                                                        That would be worth seeing.
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                                                        • yurnero
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-02-10
                                                          • 215

                                                          #63
                                                          there are many good fighters and they are fairly entertaining, but there are only a very small handful of elite fighters that i would actually be willing to pay money to see (silva, GSP) and a few others that are not as elite but very entertaining (brock, vintage iceman), and currently i am also willing to pay for jon jones, the hype machine's got me

                                                          the problem really is that they are having a UFC match every month and a lot of the fights just are lame. though they are very good fighters, they are not elite and tend to not be as entertaining, like lil wayne the UFC is watered down now and not what it once was though every now and then, you get a great match
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                                                          • jacktheknife
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-25-10
                                                            • 1217

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by k13
                                                            I've been saying it for a while but mma purists/geeks will argue forever how great these matches are.

                                                            UFC probably has 3-5 good match ups a Year. If that.
                                                            Yeah, not to mention all the MMA marks who can't appreciate 50 three-yard runs coming to your forum and knocking the lotion out of your hand.

                                                            Picked the wrong show to troll this old angle out, sweets.
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                                                            • Conan
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-01-10
                                                              • 1178

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by tcmoody99
                                                              Their should be no ties in fighting
                                                              should be more like bloodsport keep going no cage no rounds till someone taps or dies!
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                                                              • k13
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-16-10
                                                                • 18077

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by jacktheknife
                                                                Yeah, not to mention all the MMA marks who can't appreciate 50 three-yard runs coming to your forum and knocking the lotion out of your hand.

                                                                Picked the wrong show to troll this old angle out, sweets.
                                                                I don't even know what the **** you said right there.
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                                                                • clarkd32
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-15-06
                                                                  • 863

                                                                  #67
                                                                  clay guida is a freaking human backpack. watching him fight diaz he did nothing except grab him from behind and hold on for dear life. wish diego would have knocked his a** out.
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                                                                  • ttrace35
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-30-10
                                                                    • 10828

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by yurnero
                                                                    there are many good fighters and they are fairly entertaining, but there are only a very small handful of elite fighters that i would actually be willing to pay money to see (silva, GSP) and a few others that are not as elite but very entertaining (brock, vintage iceman), and currently i am also willing to pay for jon jones, the hype machine's got me

                                                                    the problem really is that they are having a UFC match every month and a lot of the fights just are lame. though they are very good fighters, they are not elite and tend to not be as entertaining, like lil wayne the UFC is watered down now and not what it once was though every now and then, you get a great match
                                                                    This is a great analogy. Lil wayne. Pure oversaturation of the market.
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                                                                    • bracerman
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-07-11
                                                                      • 469

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by FlashinLeather
                                                                      Its a combination of fighters getting more well rounded and the influx of people in the MMA game. Fighters can have one bad fight and they are cut, back in the day the UFC gave guys more of a chance to prove themselves today thats not the case, there are too many good fighters with good records to keep a guy around who isn't a big name and has one or two losses in a row.
                                                                      This.

                                                                      It was still uncommon 5 years ago for a fighter to be a top class wrestler & striker & bjj etc...now you pretty much have to be experienced in all disciplines to get anywhere. It has dramatically changed the way fights are fought. fights are just as interesting, just in a different way.

                                                                      If I had one criticism it would be that some fighters are deathly afraid of losing and getting cut so they take a more defensive approach and don't go for broke.
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                                                                      • Swinging Johnson
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 08-12-09
                                                                        • 7604

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by shaggy3000
                                                                        its rigged now to keep fan favorites fighting. if they went at it all out they would have no clue who would win, so how could they build up a huge drawing card. if you watched last night you would believe what im saying. Penn got his ass beat the final round and they called it a draw. fans like to see him fight so they gave him the draw. he said at the end of the fight he didnt win or deserve to win.

                                                                        you think this would be a billion dollar sport if they just let everyone go at it as hard as they can? how could they build hype for a fight if they had a bunch of upsets all the time?
                                                                        You couldn't be more wrong. It's exactly like saying KENO is rigged in your state lottery. There is no advantage they could possibly gain that would mitigate the damage done if it were exposed. Maybe the judges had a soft spot for Penn but to say it is rigged is ridiculous. If it doesn't make economic sense, it doesn't make sense.
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