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How about David Duvall? Its golf not like other sports. Things can go bad quickly.Comment -
Last year he finished 4th in the Masters and I believe 5th place in the US open, Man this guy sucks. For just about any other player that is a pretty good season. People are stupid. He set the bar very high in the early 2000's. It was impossible to continue to play like that forever. This was bound to happen. He will rebound.Comment -
I watched the final round on ch 146 here, Tiger looked like my buddy who I play with on Saturday's.
He shoots 84's.
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I didn't watch any of Sunday's round, all I know is that Tiger played like crap and finished 7 back.
The folks bringing up Duval's collapse do have some merit. His fall completely coincided with his divorce from his wife and some injury issues. Check and Check for Tiger.
It's possible that Tiger might never get back to being "Tiger." But think about it, when was he last really "Tiger" anyway? It's not like he was playing all that great when the marital issues became public. He didn't win a major in '09. Just one in '08 and one in '07. 2 majors in three years? That's the same number as Angel Cabrerra. And I don't think it's any coincidence this stretch coincides with the birth of his first two children either.
Maybe he's just getting old. He's what, 35 now? I think Nicklaus only won 3 majors after he turned 35. So maybe Tiger is done. Or at least, done being "Tiger."
I still think he'll manage to scrape out a major every few years or so and pass Nicklaus. Or maybe he does find it again, and roars back. If there's one golfer I wouldn't bet against in this situation, it's certainly Tiger.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Tiger did have a great year 2 years back even though he did not win a major. I think he won 7 times and was on top of his game
He actually dominated tour and then scandal hit thanksgiving of that year and he was done.Comment -
golf is now infinitely more competitive now when jack was winning
i will surprised if he wins one major again
so many young bucks coming up now-put a fork in him, he is doneComment -
It will take Tiger 3 years to win a major.Comment -
[QUOTE=wtf;8813477]golf is now infinitely more competitive now when jack was winning
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Palmer, Watson, Trevino, Miller Crenshaw, Player, Casper..........
Jack had any one of a dozen Hall of Famers on any given weekend that could beat him.
Don't give me that competition is better today garbage.
Plus, you can't compare the eras.
In the 60's and 70's, players were using steel and wood, today it's graphite and titanium.Comment -
Golf fields are much deeper now as compared to when Jack played
Also better equipment and players practice day and night kind of like machines.Comment -
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I know this JJ, but Jack, like Tiger had competition gunning for him also when he played.
It's the same, just two different eras.
The equiptment has changed, I know this, everything has changed, the main thing today is back in Jacks day, you just had CBS, NBC, and CBS, today if Tiger farts, CNN is there with a camera up his butt, and five minutes later that fart is on blogs, cable TV, and the internet.Comment -
guy is done stick a fork in himComment -
tigers off the juice nowComment -
guess he cant concentrate now that he doesnt have a wife or his hindred of women he use to have.see what the power of sex has on a man when he doesnt get any lolComment -
it's like gollf course designer and former pro Tom Weiskopf said, Jack beat Hall of famers with Balata balls, and persimmon woods and drivers. On that list is guys like Watson, Kite, Trevino, Miller, Floyd, Crenshaw, Palmer, Player to name a few. For 24 straight seasons, from 1960 to 1983, he made at least one top 10 finish in a major championship, and this is a record. Jack also won the long drive contest in 1963 at the PGA with a drive of 341 yards, 17 inches with crap equipment which lasted more than 20 years. The guy could hit a one iron for Christ's sake. Tiger came at the peak of the technology boom. There is no comparison here.
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its quite sad because he is the reason that alot or most young ppl started to watch golf in the first place....really wish he could get back on track but i don't think it will happen unless he wins a big one to get his confidence backComment -
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Arnie didn't spit on the greens either
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he's done...no longer immortal.Comment -
it's like gollf course designer and former pro Tom Weiskopf said, Jack beat Hall of famers with Balata balls, and persimmon woods and drivers. On that list is guys like Watson, Kite, Trevino, Miller, Floyd, Crenshaw, Palmer, Player to name a few. For 24 straight seasons, from 1960 to 1983, he made at least one top 10 finish in a major championship, and this is a record. Jack also won the long drive contest in 1963 at the PGA with a drive of 341 yards, 17 inches with crap equipment which lasted more than 20 years. The guy could hit a one iron for Christ's sake. Tiger came at the peak of the technology boom. There is no comparison here.
what does equipment have to do with it? zero
when jack was playing there was a few american players and one south african dude after him
today you have the best from all over the planet ready to pounce, america used to win the ryder cup in their sleep, yes i know it used to be only uk players now all of europe, if they didnt let the euro players in nobody would watch the event
now the game is more accessible to the masses , outside of one japanese player there was zero from asia in jacks eraComment -
OK, it's established that I don't like Tiger, I'm putting aside my Tiger bias for a moment, looking at everything realistically, what has Tiger shown in the recent past that makes you think he can win a major?
I'm not denying what he did in the past, he was doing to golf, what Mike Tyson did to boxing, but like Tyson, his better days just might be behind him.Comment -
Tiger had the lead 14 times after 3 rds in majors and won every time. Not once did a golfer challenge and overtake Tiger. They all choked. Tiger did finally lose when leading after 3 rds to a Korean at the U.S. Open. How embarrassing.
Jack had to play against Palmer in his prime. And don't forget about Gary Player, Snead, Casper. Then came Tom Watson, Lee Trevino, Miller, Irwin, Seve, Floyd,
Who in the hell has Tiger had to play against? Until recently, Mickelson was big time choke.Comment -
Well let's look at some facts. Tiger is 35 years old. He has already won 14 majors. By comparison....
--Vijay Singh didn't win his first major until the year he turned 35. And eventually he won two more.
--Angel Cabrera didn't win his first major until the year he turned 38. And won another the year he turned 40.
--Mark O'Meara didn't win his first major until the year he turned 41. He won two that year.
--Stewart Cink didn't win his first major until the year he turned 36.
--Todd Hamilton didn't win a major until he was 39. (and has only won two PGA Tour events his entire career)
The point is, all those guys had never demonstrated the ability to win a major by the time they turned 35, and yet still managed to do so. In Singh's case, he won 3. O'Meara/Cabrera 2 a piece.
Should it really be unreasonable to expect that Tiger, at age 35, having already figured out what it takes to win a major championship 14 times, is capable of winning a few more before he's done?
Golf isn't like the NBA or NFL or MLB. You don't have a team investing money in you with a contract. You can hang around as long as you want trying to make cuts. (At least if you have a lifetime exemption. Like Tiger does.)
He could stink it up for the next ten years and still be younger (45) than when Jack won his last Masters.
Earlier someone mentioned David Duval. For all the promise he showed, he won only ONE major: 2001 British Open. A mere two years later he was 211th on the money list. And left the game. And yet, after several years of terrible play and extended breaks from competition, two years ago Duval finished THIRD in the U.S. OPEN a few strokes back of Lucas Glover.
If David frickin' Duval can stink it up for almost an entire decade, and come back years later to within a few shots of winning the U.S. Open, I think Tiger, (who had 7 top 25 finishes in 12 events last season) can find a way to win a few more majors before he's done.
This isn't to say I disagree with you in that "his better days might be behind him," but Jordan's "better days" were behind him when he came back from baseball and completely re-tooled his game en route to winning 3 more NBA titles.
I don't think we'll ever see Tiger winning by 15 strokes or however many it was at Pebble Beach in 2000. And it's not like he's going to win four majors in a row again, but I don't think it's an absurd notion to figure he's going to win a few more majors in the next 15 years.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
his recent bad performances shows me how big a part the mental aspect in golf really isComment -
i hear he got a new hitch in his swang... he swingin another way now and he like it fellas... and besides its none of your bizzness...
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and missed another 3 footer
