North Korea Props

**SBR_John** · 11-23-10, 12:58 PM

Will China condemn North Korea before 10:00 p.m. est on 11/25/2010?
Yes: +400
No: -500

I'll take No for 25 points at -500.

**crustyme** · 11-23-10, 01:14 PM

Can we parlay both no's cause both are nice freebies.

**Domer** · 11-23-10, 01:18 PM

definitely a bit subjective on the first one

**pavyracer** · 11-23-10, 01:20 PM

Not sure how you will grade this. Who is the one to decide if China's response would be considered condemning or not because obviously they will make some type of statement?

**Justin7** · 11-23-10, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Not sure how you will grade this. Who is the one to decide if China's response would be considered condemning?

Dang, I hate grey props.

My thoughts were... if they use the word "condemn" in a response, and it isn't a negative. So...
"China condemns this attack" would be yes
"China will not back a UN proposal to condemn" would be no. The no wins, unless it is clearly "condemns".

that said, I'll take the condemn prop off the board.

The attack prop will stay up until midnight (EST) tonight.

**Justin7** · 11-23-10, 01:24 PM

You have to like SBR_John giving me a free 225 points though

**SBR_John** · 11-23-10, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

You have to like SBR_John giving me a free 225 points though

Uhh actually it was 250! Geezu, mary-mag and scotch!!! Where do I file a complaint around here??? So lets see I got my bet canceled, paid the transfer tax and got a 25 point hair cut to boot???

**Justin7** · 11-23-10, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Uhh actually it was 250! Geezu, mary-mag and scotch!!! Where do I file a complaint around here??? So lets see I got my bet canceled, paid the transfer tax and got a 25 point hair cut to boot???

Your bet was placed before I took it off the board. You have a very good chance of getting your 25 points back, with 5 more to boot.

re: the other 225, you mean that wasn't a gift for offering such a clever, original prop? If this was an accident, submit a complaint here:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Sportsbook+Complaint.aspx

I'm sure the SBR points CS can get it sorted out.

**SBR_John** · 11-23-10, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Your bet was placed before I took it off the board. You have a very good chance of getting your 25 points back, with 5 more to boot.

re: the other 225, you mean that wasn't a gift for offering such a clever, original prop? If this was an accident, submit a complaint here:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Sportsbook+Complaint.aspx

I'm sure the SBR points CS can get it sorted out.

OK phew! Thought I was gonna have to get The prick or whoever is on duty in the complaint dept to open a can of whup azz.

Behind the scenes China has got to be telling the N Koreans to go fuggk themselves. China is extremely vulnerable to a trade embargo IF there was an attack and they did anything more than jawbone the situation. Folks think that China is holding the cards but in reality they have everything to lose and zipp to gain from a Korean conflict. Wouldnt surprise me to eventually see China cut them loose and start abstaining to all Korean votes.

**yisman** · 11-23-10, 04:58 PM

Justin, he was betting to win 25 and seems to have done his math wrong.

**ACoochy** · 11-23-10, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Max risk: 50 points [/i]) Will either Korea launch attacks by plane or artillery on 11/24/2010 or 11/25/2010 (US est)? Yes +240 No -300 Any bets taken after a news release that can grade either prop will be no-action.

Il take the No on this. Sth.Korea have already shown they r not willing to be aggressors when it comes to the North ( Just look at the Naval Ship attack in May to serve as example) and i feel as though the North are just flexing their muscle. Definitely something goes down in the future, i just think it will happen after the expiration of this bet.. Il risk 60 to win 20....GL

**frankthetank** · 11-23-10, 05:20 PM

I had a dream about this last night. Not good. Nuke hit our homesoil and people had to move out of fallout areas. The problem with having our troops (nose) in every other country is that there is a huge chance they will get killed if anything breaks out and we HAVE to get involved. Then it becomes nukes vs. nukes concerning psychotic countries like N. Korea. Thye teach teir kids songs about hating America. It is a brain washed society and really is the biggest threat on the planet.

**Doc JS** · 11-23-10, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Max risk: 50 points

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Will either Korea launch attacks by plane or artillery on 11/24/2010 or 11/25/2010 (US est)?
Yes +240
No -300

Any bets taken after a news release that can grade either prop will be no-action.

I'll take NO -300 for the max of 60, Justin.

North Koreans are crazy, no doubt. but even those dumb fuks gotta know they don't wanta fuk with China because at last count there were more than a Billion (with a capital B) of those Chinese.

Doc

**pat venditto** · 11-23-10, 05:42 PM

Will either Korea launch attacks by plane or artillery on 11/24/2010 or 11/25/2010 (US est)?

I'll take yes +240 please.

Risking 19 points

**ACoochy** · 11-23-10, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

OK phew! Thought I was gonna have to get The prick or whoever is on duty in the complaint dept to open a can of whup azz.

Behind the scenes China has got to be telling the N Koreans to go fuggk themselves. China is extremely vulnerable to a trade embargo IF there was an attack and they did anything more than jawbone the situation. Folks think that China is holding the cards but in reality they have everything to lose and zipp to gain from a Korean conflict. Wouldnt surprise me to eventually see China cut them loose and start abstaining to all Korean votes.

Correct me if im wrong John but wouldnt the US have just as much if not more to lose than china here because if hypothetically china were to have trade embargo's placed against it id have thought the next logical step for them would be to ask the US to start paying back the trillions the US borrowed from China to fund the 'war' on terrorism and U.S. reliance on foreign capital to finance the budget deficit......
This is why i take issue with the globalised approach to economy because if one man sneezes then we all end up catching a cold......GL

**Justin7** · 11-23-10, 05:58 PM

Hmm. I'll raise the max risk limit to 60 (and accept the earlier 60 wager in full).

**durito** · 11-23-10, 06:12 PM

no for 60

**ACoochy** · 11-23-10, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Hmm. I'll raise the max risk limit to 60 (and accept the earlier 60 wager in full).

Thanks Justin. Apologees, misread original quote

GL....

**windwind** · 11-23-10, 06:23 PM

this whole incident start with the joint millitary exercise between the US and S Korea and a millitary exercise by the S Korea on a controversial island will kim jong yi is passin the power to his son.
just a excuse for everybody to sit down and start talk.

**yisman** · 11-23-10, 06:38 PM

no for 60

**rem sleep** · 11-23-10, 06:41 PM

You should do a prop bet on whether or not the U.S. gets involved in another countries affairs.

Yes -5000
No +3500

**windwind** · 11-23-10, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by rem sleep

You should do a prop bet on whether or not the U.S. gets involved in another countries affairs. Yes -5000 No +3500

**Doc JS** · 11-23-10, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Hmm. I'll raise the max risk limit to 60 (and accept the earlier 60 wager in full).

Justin,
Bumped my 50 to 60 and transferred 10 more points to you to cover it...

Doc

**xyz** · 11-23-10, 07:09 PM

no for 60

**dwaechte** · 11-23-10, 08:00 PM

Hey Justin,

If possible I'd like to use the points transferred below where no bet was made and put 50 on the no.

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**Grandmaster B** · 11-23-10, 08:06 PM

**Justin7** · 11-23-10, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Hey Justin,

If possible I'd like to use the points transferred below where no bet was made and put 50 on the no.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...cial-odds.html

I gave you that 50 back. You can bet it normally yourself.

**SBR_John** · 11-23-10, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Correct me if im wrong John but wouldnt the US have just as much if not more to lose than china here because if hypothetically china were to have trade embargo's placed against it id have thought the next logical step for them would be to ask the US to start paying back the trillions the US borrowed from China to fund the 'war' on terrorism and U.S. reliance on foreign capital to finance the budget deficit......
This is why i take issue with the globalised approach to economy because if one man sneezes then we all end up catching a cold......GL

That's where there is a misconception. Think about it. Who is in the stronger position? The US could simply freeze any and all debt owed to China and refuse all of their exports to the US and to NATO allies sending the Chinese economy into a horrific tail spin. It would also boost our economy because all those goods would have to be made else where including at home. Plus we would stiff them on all the US debt they have bought. It would cause inflation and a strong dollar and other negatives. But to be sure, the US is sitting in a very good position with regards to China.

**pavyracer** · 11-23-10, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

That's where there is a misconception. Think about it. Who is in the stronger position? The US could simply freeze any and all debt owed to China and refuse all of their exports to the US and to NATO allies sending the Chinese economy into a horrific tail spin. It would also boost our economy because all those goods would have to be made else where including at home. Plus we would stiff them on all the US debt they have bought. It would cause inflation and a strong dollar and other negatives. But to be sure, the US is sitting in a very good position with regards to China.

It will be impossible to freeze trillions of dollars of debt. Wall Street will collapse if this happens since all the bonds will be worthless. If they refuse Chinese exports there would be millions of angry kids and parents during Christmas time.

**muldoon** · 11-24-10, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

It will be impossible to freeze trillions of dollars of debt. Wall Street will collapse if this happens since all the bonds will be worthless. If they refuse Chinese exports there would be millions of angry kids and parents during Christmas time.

BINGO. Except it's not just kids. Home building supplies etc are a huge import for America now.

**windwind** · 11-24-10, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

That's where there is a misconception. Think about it. Who is in the stronger position? The US could simply freeze any and all debt owed to China and refuse all of their exports to the US and to NATO allies sending the Chinese economy into a horrific tail spin. It would also boost our economy because all those goods would have to be made else where including at home. Plus we would stiff them on all the US debt they have bought. It would cause inflation and a strong dollar and other negatives. But to be sure, the US is sitting in a very good position with regards to China.

actuelly, economically China has the upper hand. this incident has already helped China to ease the pressure of raise yuan issue and drove away some of the unwanted hot money.
and theres no way the US can or have the guts to just freeze the debt.

**Extra Innings** · 11-24-10, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by muldoon

BINGO. Except it's not just kids. Home building supplies etc are a huge import for America now.

Home building in the US?

**Justin7** · 11-24-10, 08:51 AM

This prop is closed now.

**Fishhead** · 11-24-10, 08:56 AM

JUSTIN giving away points here.........CONGRATS to the winners.