Felix Hernandez Wins Cy Young

**Jrod124** · 11-18-10, 02:04 PM

bullshit, baseball is about winning the game. Us Gamblers no that better than anyone

CC was the right choice

**Dad** · 11-18-10, 02:16 PM

It's not his fault his team can't score. Every one of his wins was pretty much a shutout.

**treece** · 11-18-10, 02:31 PM

well deserved.

**DwightShrute** · 11-18-10, 02:32 PM

**stealthyburrito** · 11-18-10, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Jrod124

bullshit, baseball is about winning the game. Us Gamblers no that better than anyone

CC was the right choice

incorrect.

**whatsgood5** · 11-18-10, 02:39 PM

Good, he deserved it. I'm glad Jrod doesn't have a vote...

**EmpireMaker** · 11-18-10, 02:58 PM

He really deserved it. Great to see voters were able to vote on his performance alone and not judge him by his crappy team.

**herts9** · 11-18-10, 03:02 PM

There has only ever been one winner (in either league) in the history of the award to have less than 15 wins (that wasn't a reliever, that didn't have any amount of saves). Fernando Valenzuela, 1981. He went 13-7 with a 2.48 ERA, 11 CG's and 8 shutouts.

Now there's two.

If David Price didn't suck as bad as he did in the postseason, he should have won it.

**B1GER1C828** · 11-18-10, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by herts9

There has only ever been one winner (in either league) in the history of the award to have less than 15 wins (that wasn't a reliever, that didn't have any amount of saves). Fernando Valenzuela, 1981. He went 13-7 with a 2.48 ERA, 11 CG's and 8 shutouts. Now there's two. If David Price didn't suck as bad as he did in the postseason, he should have won it.

postseason doesnt reflect it.

im happy felix got it, amazing pitcher on a shit team.

**blackbart** · 11-18-10, 03:37 PM

well deserved,

**gryfyn1** · 11-18-10, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by herts9

If David Price didn't suck as bad as he did in the postseason, he should have won it.

Uh, all this voting was done during the first week after the season, so no one really had time to account for playoff performance.

Yet, more, importantly if Price sucked a little less during the season and managed to pitch anywhere near as well as Felix, he might have won it.

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 11-18-10, 04:47 PM

THIS WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THE DAYS OF OLD YOU HAD TO LEAD THE LEAGUE IN WINS USUALLY 20.THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY WHERE A GUY WON THE CY YOUNG WITH A 500 RECORD.
ALSO THEY USUALLY NEVER GIVE IT TO A GUY PLAYING ON A LOSING TEAM SOMETHING AINT ADDING UP THIS YEAR

**herts9** · 11-18-10, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

postseason doesnt reflect it.

Originally posted by gryfyn1

Uh, all this voting was done during the first week after the season, so no one really had time to account for playoff performance.

that's what they tell you. i hope you don't believe that.

**B1GER1C828** · 11-18-10, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by herts9

that's what they tell you. i hope you don't believe that.

is this when u tell me you "know a guy who knows a guy who is friends with one of the voters"?

**herts9** · 11-18-10, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

is this when u tell me you "know a guy who knows a guy who is friends with one of the voters"?

for all you know, i have a vote

**ryanjep** · 11-18-10, 05:11 PM

good choice. i have to agree with it

**stealthyburrito** · 11-18-10, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by herts9

that's what they tell you. i hope you don't believe that.

lol, get a life guy.

**gryfyn1** · 11-18-10, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM

THIS WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THE DAYS OF OLD YOU HAD TO LEAD THE LEAGUE IN WINS USUALLY 20.THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY WHERE A GUY WON THE CY YOUNG WITH A 500 RECORD.
ALSO THEY USUALLY NEVER GIVE IT TO A GUY PLAYING ON A LOSING TEAM SOMETHING AINT ADDING UP THIS YEAR

Its almost like they don't have a bunch of ******* morons with their heads stuck so far up their asses they don't know whats going on ...

**lunchbawks** · 11-18-10, 10:59 PM

felix deserves it what ahuge award in todays baseball

**hothandsmgee** · 11-19-10, 12:29 AM

The most deserving person won the award

**BrigadierPudding** · 11-19-10, 12:32 AM

Felix would have won 20+ on a real team. He was by far the best pitcher in the AL this season. Fat CC? LMAO.

**BRAVES1985** · 11-19-10, 05:55 PM

they got it right.

**nli07** · 11-19-10, 05:56 PM

Good decision. King Felix was disgusting this season. Especially when he faced the Yanks.

**DeluxeLiner** · 11-19-10, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by hothandsmgee

the most deserving person won the award

agree

**benjy** · 11-20-10, 08:43 AM

I can easily imagine the voters screwing this one up. Good on Felix, and the voters, for this one being decided correctly.

**mudhen_22** · 11-23-10, 03:41 PM

Felix hernandez is one of the best pitchers in the league its not his fault the mariners are terrible

**Doc JS** · 11-23-10, 03:54 PM

I'm conflicted. I'm old school enough to think wins should count for something. I'm also new school enough to be on board with sabremetrics.

Yeah, I know the bullpen blew like 5-6 games for him and his team only scored one run in like half of his 12 losses. So, he coulda been 19-6 with a little luck. And I know Felix certainly had the "numbers"...

But I do think that pitching in meaningful games (like CC and Price had to do) for teams trying to win a division and make the playoffs should be worth something. King Felix faced no such pressure in the games he pitched in. His team sucked. We dont know how he would have pitched under similar pressure.
You can say he pitched under pressure because he knew his team sucked and was only going to score a couple of runs for him but that aint like starting the game with your team 1/2 game in or out of first place and knowing you gotta win to maintain pace with the Yanks/Rays/Sox..

Doc

**eonizuka** · 11-23-10, 04:17 PM

CC had a great season but he had way more outings that were complete stinkers than King Felix.
I admit his number of wins is really low but he dominated everyone. Its not his fault that if he gave up 2 runs it was just about an automatic loss since the Ms couldn't score for him.

**stealthyburrito** · 11-23-10, 04:23 PM

we are entering a golden age of baseball where statistical analysis will give us a clearer picture of a player's true production

**kisado** · 11-25-10, 01:29 AM

Felix could have won it the year before if not for the hype and golden boy image of Greinke. Felix pitched superbly and I'm glad that W/L record is not the only determining factor. CC had a grip of wins but the record was a bit bloated. His ERA was not that stellar either.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 11-25-10, 01:14 PM

Dude was excellent this year!

**diamond** · 11-25-10, 07:01 PM

great performances all year, good choice.

**DMB40** · 11-26-10, 12:21 AM

cc got robbed

**Inspirited** · 11-28-10, 01:26 AM

na justice was upheld

guy can't help it when his team is not hitting.

cc is eating just fine