Lesnar vs Velasquez

bookie · 10-23-10, 10:05 PM

Yes. Velasquez offers tremendous value. I'm shocked the late money is all on Lesnar--but it's got to be public money. Lesnar hasn't fought anyone near Velasquez since getting out of the hospital, and Velasquez looks like he can be coached and there are wholes in Lesnar's game. I know this is just before post time, but this is a live dog.

Rio DiNero · 10-23-10, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by bookie

Yes. Velasquez offers tremendous value. I'm shocked the late money is all on Lesnar--but it's got to be public money. Lesnar hasn't fought anyone near Velasquez since getting out of the hospital, and Velasquez looks like he can be coached and there are wholes in Lesnar's game. I know this is just before post time, but this is a live dog.

I agree

sweethook · 10-23-10, 11:35 PM

yes i havent b4 but feel lucky so a put a 5notts on him at -160 , gl man

NYSportsGuy210 · 10-23-10, 11:37 PM

The big oaf continues to prove time and time again he can't handle men his own size. He is only skilled in ground and pound and if that fails he is up the creek without a paddle.

Carwin exposed him big time and Velasquez just finished him off.

JuicedUp · 10-23-10, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Carwin exposed him big time and Velasquez just finished him off.

jai7123 · 10-23-10, 11:40 PM

Wow, he bloodied Brock in a hurry. First takedown made me think Brock was going to cinch it up but Cain didn't panic and waited and put enough in each punch to flatten the big guy. Cain had pleanty in the tank and was not punched out like last Brock fight.

rem sleep · 10-23-10, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by bookie

Yes. Velasquez offers tremendous value. I'm shocked the late money is all on Lesnar--but it's got to be public money. Lesnar hasn't fought anyone near Velasquez since getting out of the hospital, and Velasquez looks like he can be coached and there are wholes in Lesnar's game. I know this is just before post time, but this is a live dog.

damn, i wish read this before the fight. to me mma is one of the hardest sports to bet because there are too many disciplines that are involved. Like lesnar has great wrestling but he cant box for crap and he got totally exposed tonight

starfire · 10-23-10, 11:41 PM

LearningTree · 10-23-10, 11:47 PM

No way in hell I thought he would win that easily. I thought they would cancel each other out for a while, which did happen...until Brock started getting pounded on.

odtw524 · 10-23-10, 11:55 PM

hahah wow that fight was a joke!!!

brooks85 · 10-23-10, 11:59 PM

it feels good to see what im been saying for almost a month come true, except I thought brock would last at least 1 round

sweethook · 10-24-10, 12:08 AM

well i lost 5 yards on that shetttt ,done with [ the fix is in mma. ]

terpkeg · 10-24-10, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by rem sleep

damn, i wish read this before the fight. to me mma is one of the hardest sports to bet because there are too many disciplines that are involved. Like lesnar has great wrestling but he cant box for crap and he got totally exposed tonight

Some of the best cappers at sbr are in the mma forum imo.

Sunde91 · 10-24-10, 12:12 AM

What was the angle for favoring Lesnar so much? That he would get early take-down and finish early or something? No way Brock goes beyond 2. Totally out-skilled, out-conditioned, out-disciplined, out-experienced.

I mean this was almost a fukin replay of Carwin fight. Brock gets fukin slammed from get go, fukin stumbling around completely disoriented, you're sitting there thinking he's got no shot. Only Cain took better shots and was in better shape to begin with, whereas Carwin just punched and punched and gased himself, let Brock survive, then got taken out in one swoop.

I'm a vanilla MMA fan, so pros, explain to me why Brock was so heavily faovored, cause it seems like this was a little too foreseeable.

Tk Fo Sho · 10-24-10, 12:16 AM

I hate Lesnar with a passion

JuicedUp · 10-24-10, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Sunde91

What was the angle for favoring Lesnar so much? That he would get early take-down and finish early or something? No way Brock goes beyond 2. Totally out-skilled, out-conditioned, out-disciplined, out-experienced.

I mean this was almost a fukin replay of Carwin fight. Brock gets fukin slammed from get go, fukin stumbling around completely disoriented, you're sitting there thinking he's got no shot. Only Cain took better shots and was in better shape to begin
with, whereas Carwin just punched and punched and gased himself, let Brock survive, then got taken out in one swoop.

I'm a vanilla MMA fan, so pros, explain to me why Brock was so heavily faovored, cause it seems like this was a little too foreseeable.

Agreed, but where were you before the fight?

itchypickle · 10-24-10, 12:24 AM

New respect for Cain from me

brooks85 · 10-24-10, 12:31 AM

here is something i wrote a while ago which I think was spun into "brock being able to take a beating," when in reality carwin was barely in any condition to give a beating a few mins into the fight.

in response to someone who bet on carwin over lesnar i wrote

"then you were on the right side, right side doesnt always win tho. And the only reason carwin could not ko brock in round 1 was because he was gassing rapidly and had an adrenaline dump. If those things did not happen brock would have got his head smashed in for another round. Anything that happened in round 2 is irrelevant for capping any of brock's future matchups. After gassing in round 1, carwin was clearly useless in round 2, his attempt to stuff the TD was clearly evident of that."

another huge misconception was that brock would just be able to hold cain down. Cain is a Div1 wrestler, he knows what it is like to have a 260+ powerhouse on top of you.

jizay · 10-24-10, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Sunde91

What was the angle for favoring Lesnar so much? That he would get early take-down and finish early or something? No way Brock goes beyond 2. Totally out-skilled, out-conditioned, out-disciplined, out-experienced.

I mean this was almost a fukin replay of Carwin fight. Brock gets fukin slammed from get go, fukin stumbling around completely disoriented, you're sitting there thinking he's got no shot. Only Cain took better shots and was in better shape to begin with, whereas Carwin just punched and punched and gased himself, let Brock survive, then got taken out in one swoop.

I'm a vanilla MMA fan, so pros, explain to me why Brock was so heavily faovored, cause it seems like this was a little too foreseeable.

I'm with you, but some people took the last fight as evidence in the opposite direction: If Brock could take Carwin's best shots, then he must be almost impossible to put away. lol

brooks85 · 10-24-10, 12:36 AM

ya that too, both theories i thought were flawed because carwins power was rapidly depleting and even when carwin had brock in the worse positions, he was struggling to connect. Whereas tonight we saw cain make every shot count.

Preston09 · 10-24-10, 12:43 AM

Lesner faded quick. His stamina was not very good tonight. He came out like a bat out of hell to start though

GoldenYAK · 10-24-10, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by Sunde91

What was the angle for favoring Lesnar so much? That he would get early take-down and finish early or something? No way Brock goes beyond 2. Totally out-skilled, out-conditioned, out-disciplined, out-experienced.

I mean this was almost a fukin replay of Carwin fight. Brock gets fukin slammed from get go, fukin stumbling around completely disoriented, you're sitting there thinking he's got no shot. Only Cain took better shots and was in better shape to begin with, whereas Carwin just punched and punched and gased himself, let Brock survive, then got taken out in one swoop.

I'm a vanilla MMA fan, so pros, explain to me why Brock was so heavily faovored, cause it seems like this was a little too foreseeable.

Nuthuggers. Its the same reason Frankie was a big dog twice to bj, when all non biased fans could clearly see frankie won the first time.

illmatick · 10-24-10, 01:25 AM

you either fall for the hype or you see through it.

simple as that.

I had a serious chuckle from witnessing the masses pound Brock after the weigh-ins.

Junkyard Dog · 10-24-10, 01:39 AM

congrats to cain, hell of a victory

Grind House · 10-24-10, 01:46 AM

Lesnar got a glass jaw. Balloon muscles.

Patrick McIrish · 10-24-10, 01:47 AM

Much respect for Cain here, I didn't give him enough credit before this fight.

zeroprogress2 · 10-24-10, 01:50 AM

he def does not have a glass jaw. Rewatching the fight I think cain broke one of brocks ear drums or something with the side of head punches when he was riding him. Cain walked right through lesnar tonight, very impressive.

Grind House · 10-24-10, 01:54 AM

Well he must have a little brain that gets rattled around in his head easily cause every time somebody puts those hands on his ass, he starts to wobble. Accomplished wrestler but his fight game is shit. If you touch his head decent he is a goner.

rem sleep · 10-24-10, 03:57 AM

so now everyone knows to go after lesnars chin, it was kinda funny seeing him in the fetal position blocking for dear life from a smaller fighter

Arsenal · 10-24-10, 04:26 AM

LOL great pic

polskboy · 10-24-10, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by Arsenal

LOL great pic

nice pic that was taken after this fight?

Christina33 · 10-24-10, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Arsenal

LOL great pic

damnnnnnnnnnnnn

MadTiger · 10-24-10, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by bookie

I know this is just before post time, but this is a live dog.

That dog DID hunt!

Cain V.

Vaughany · 10-24-10, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by polskboy

nice pic that was taken after this fight?

ha well I hope and doubt it was taken before the fight!