What's up (or down) with MB liquidity?

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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    What's up (or down) with MB liquidity?
    For the last 90 minutes before the start of the SD/StL game, I had an offer on the total that was giving the other side a price 3 cents better than anything on SBROdds. I could only get $500 matched.

    Now I'm trying to hedge on the colts total and jets side. Same thing -- best offer by 3 cents, although the games don't start for awhile. In 1 hour, $0 matched.

    Has liquidity crashed at MB?
  • MartinBlank
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-20-08
    • 8382

    #2
    I have given up there.

    I had an offer on Thursday night, 9 cents better than anything listed on sbr lines, and nothing.

    I don't understand it. Even more puzzling in your case, as you are on an NFL Sunday.
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    • LostBankroll
      Restricted User
      • 02-10-10
      • 4538

      #3
      Maybe bettors dont like that game. Maybe they have no opinion on the side you are offering. MB is hit or miss sometimes. But it does seem to HIT more times than not. MB is still solid.
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      • the sink
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-04-10
        • 201

        #4
        was pinnacle down?
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          No.
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          • Shonner
            SBR MVP
            • 09-05-10
            • 1361

            #6
            Originally posted by Justin7
            No.
            Players running because of WSEX?

            Did MB get sold yet?
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #7
              I dont know for sure but I would guess that some of those traders are on the sidelines until they get a payment. That coupled with the traders that owe MB, who in some cases are not paying, are not allowed to trade.

              The liquidity now is probably more player stuff than big credit/post up bookies hedging risk. Hence; the smaller fills.
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              • Shonner
                SBR MVP
                • 09-05-10
                • 1361

                #8
                Originally posted by SBR_John
                I dont know for sure but I would guess that some of those traders are on the sidelines until they get a payment. That coupled with the traders that owe MB, who in some cases are not paying, are not allowed to trade.

                The liquidity now is probably more player stuff than big credit/post up bookies hedging risk. Hence; the smaller fills.
                John - is MB playing regular players timely?
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SBR_John

                  That coupled with the traders that owe MB, who in some cases are not paying, are not allowed to trade.

                  or dead
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                  • Max009
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-13-09
                    • 439

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                    I dont know for sure but I would guess that some of those traders are on the sidelines until they get a payment. That coupled with the traders that owe MB, who in some cases are not paying, are not allowed to trade.

                    The liquidity now is probably more player stuff than big credit/post up bookies hedging risk. Hence; the smaller fills.
                    This post is shocking if true.

                    Where is Fishhead when you need him.
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                    • Shonner
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-05-10
                      • 1361

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Max009
                      This post is shocking if true.

                      Where is Fishhead when you need him.


                      FH is a strong proponent of MB

                      I won't play there.
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                      • BAUS
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 2191

                        #12
                        I received a timely payout from MB yesterday.

                        BAUS
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Small players are NOT having payout problems with MB
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                          • Monte
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-21-10
                            • 2056

                            #14
                            It is fine on most markets for me, but yeah some games are dead at times.
                            Still huge offers on 2nd halfs etc thou, so i'd say not much changed, imo it has always been like that.
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                            • Bill Dozer
                              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                              • 07-12-05
                              • 10894

                              #15
                              WSEX has also paid as of recently. Big part of owed SBR player list paid. You can likely credit deposits and a good start to NFL
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                              • jonmic
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-25-06
                                • 685

                                #16
                                Liquidity has been lacking on MB lately in my opinion
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                                • KC
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 1613

                                  #17
                                  I have seen 100+K offered for the major MLB and NFL games lately
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                                  • HedgeHog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-11-07
                                    • 10128

                                    #18
                                    I've noticed that NFL totals have seen especially weak activity this year.
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                                    • mathdotcom
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-24-08
                                      • 11689

                                      #19
                                      Justin why are you hedging??
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                                      • ZetaPsi808
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-18-08
                                        • 12119

                                        #20
                                        i guess a lot of players do not play totals. i know for myself it is much more fun to play moneylines and spreads
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                                        • Justin7
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-31-06
                                          • 8577

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                          Justin why are you hedging??
                                          Cards. no pro line this week though.
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                                          • Hareeba!
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 07-01-06
                                            • 37171

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                            i guess a lot of players do not play totals. i know for myself it is much more fun to play moneylines and spreads
                                            "fun" is not what the serious players are in it for

                                            but it's always fun to win
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                                            • Domer
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-21-10
                                              • 1046

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                                              I dont know for sure but I would guess that some of those traders are on the sidelines until they get a payment. That coupled with the traders that owe MB, who in some cases are not paying, are not allowed to trade.

                                              The liquidity now is probably more player stuff than big credit/post up bookies hedging risk. Hence; the smaller fills.
                                              this post is BS, and should be called out for it.

                                              I've never had a problem with payments, either lately or in the past and I'm not even close to a small player. please just give us ONE EXAMPLE of these "traders" that aren't being paid. just one example...

                                              all of the SBR/matchbook stuff is innuendo that started CURIOUSLY when matchbook stopped advertising here many months ago.

                                              if you're going to try to scare people off of matchbook at least provide concrete information not this "ive been hearing" or "i would guess" stuff.

                                              as to the original post, I would say the simplest answer is the best answer: the economy sucks and people have less money to wager/devote to wagering.
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                                              • mathdotcom
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-24-08
                                                • 11689

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                                Cards. no pro line this week though.

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                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                  • 16103

                                                  #25
                                                  at least you don't bet NHL.. count your lucky stars. unless you like having games you can only bet 4$ each way and lines that look like this.... -112/-104.. and you probably won't get your offer matched, even if it's 5 cents better than pinny.. I hate NHL at matchy.. other sports are not bad.. still matchy is #1 for me


                                                  BTW, regarding WSEX.. i am slowly becoming a fan again. 6 months ago when i kept reading how they were broke, i had a ton there, and now, my acct has dropped by 73% there.. Judy is great there. my balance keeps going down there little by little.. They are not 100% yet, but getting there. still slow, but way better than before.
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                                                  • pjesnik24
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-01-05
                                                    • 1286

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Domer
                                                    this post is BS, and should be called out for it.

                                                    I've never had a problem with payments, either lately or in the past and I'm not even close to a small player. please just give us ONE EXAMPLE of these "traders" that aren't being paid. just one example...

                                                    all of the SBR/matchbook stuff is innuendo that started CURIOUSLY when matchbook stopped advertising here many months ago.

                                                    if you're going to try to scare people off of matchbook at least provide concrete information not this "ive been hearing" or "i would guess" stuff.

                                                    as to the original post, I would say the simplest answer is the best answer: the economy sucks and people have less money to wager/devote to wagering.
                                                    you should read john's post again
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                                                    • Monte
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                      • 2056

                                                      #27
                                                      That's because there seem to be only a handful of ppl who actually take offers, with deep pockets...aka when the line moves against you, even 10k gets matched immediately. But they don't seem to care for the NHL, so this is dead, i sometimes wonder where all the ppl here are who claim they play at MB, coz you never get any shit matched unless above line movement happens.
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                                                      • Domer
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-21-10
                                                        • 1046

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                                        you should read john's post again
                                                        they've been singing the same tune for 9 month

                                                        how many slow/no pays in the past 9 months?

                                                        Over .5 +4500
                                                        Under .5 OTB
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                                                        • Odessa
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 06-04-07
                                                          • 398

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Domer
                                                          they've been singing the same tune for 9 month

                                                          how many slow/no pays in the past 9 months?

                                                          Over .5 +4500
                                                          Under .5 OTB
                                                          Absolutely none! Not only in last 9 month, it also holds true for last 5 years. In addition SBR unfairly downgraded them to B- for no reason whatsoever. Just check incredible volumes for baseball and Pro football.
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                                                          • wrongturn
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-06-06
                                                            • 2228

                                                            #30
                                                            I am very disappointed at MB liquidity on college football games Saturday. But if there are only one or two games on board, it is great, like Colts/RedSkins and one MLB playoff game right now.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Just use Pinnacle and have no worries and low juice and bet like 50,000 a game

                                                              Matchbook has never grown

                                                              Exchange betting in usa is a flop
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                                                              • mathdotcom
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-24-08
                                                                • 11689

                                                                #32
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                                                                • sideloaded
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-21-10
                                                                  • 7561

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Is matchbook the only option for exchange betting in the us market?
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                                                                  • Max009
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-13-09
                                                                    • 439

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                                    Is matchbook the only option for exchange betting in the us market?
                                                                    There are 2 others, Betmaker (owned by CRIS) and Parlaymakers has an exchange/sportsbook. Also, Rebatewager say they are developing one and should release soon.
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                                                                    • bleedblue
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 323

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Isn't this common for the late games? 99% of the squares are busy watching the early games.
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