How to get rich (fast) off sports betting

[turkstock]

you have to go to vegas to cash out big $. you would need others to place the bets for you after you started cashing out the first 50-100k or so. they would black list you

[ssk13809]

A.) Vegas, you could probably lay the 50K at one book day of, or you could spread it between 5 different books in Vegas
B.) Vegas, or win as much as you can offshore and move onto the next book.

I'll admit I'm a doubter, but I welcome all good handicappers. That's why I stick around to get input from successful handicappers. I just think if your hitting at that high of percentage, what is a couple hundred bucks for a plane ticket to Vegas to lay down thousands of dollars in bets? GL, I'm interested to see how your picks go in your other thread.

As I stated earlier in this thread, I'm not trying to make this a career. Gambling (no matter how good you are) is far too risky to make a career imo. Because after all, it is gambling. Besides I think I can be successful in other areas.

So the move to Las Vegas is not plausible in my case. So what does that leave me with? Spreading action to books is a good idea, but only for the short-term because eventually they will catch on to you and ban you. What about local bookies? Are they legit?



btw I'm posting my LOCK of the week later today

[Tree Rollins]

If your locks hit at 90%. Then bet half of everything you have on them. Each time. Let's say you bet half of everything you have, 10k, and you get really unlucky and lose your first time. Well, you have 5k left and your next one is bound to hit, if not your next 9. So just bet literally half of everything you own on each of your locks, you will have millions in no time. It's that simple.

[ssk13809]

If your locks hit at 90%. Then bet half of everything you have on them. Each time. Let's say you bet half of everything you have, 10k, and you get really unlucky and lose your first time. Well, you have 5k left and your next one is bound to hit, if not your next 9. So just bet literally half of everything you own on each of your locks, you will have millions in no time. It's that simple.

Once again, there are many issues with that


a) Who is ACTUALLY going to pay a million using that strategy? Books cut of your action. I think I will be done before I get to 100k. And then some books have problems paying that much. But thats not hard to overcome choosing the right book.


And even if you spread to multiple books, and miraculously accumulate a million before they cut your action off. Eventually they will cut your action off if you keep winning.

What then? History?

[ssk13809]

In case anyone cares,

I found the post from other forum where I went 7-0 LOCKS last year

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153007&page=2

I'm the arrogant "GP_20" or "Glove" guy. This thread kind of summed up my weekly results. It's not a betting forum so I just posted in the NFL thread every week my picks.

I used to post my LOCK every week in that forum. Till I went 3-0 ATS in a given week, and some guy says "that is easy". I got mad and challenged anyone else in the forum to go 3-0 any given week, and if they didn't, I would not post any more picks there. I never posted my LOCKS there again.


Summary quote:

7 weeks in a row of plus .500/profits? 7 weeks? That's not luck.
7-0 in locks? That's not luck.
Hitting 3-0 twice, and another perfect week? That's not luck.


But really, you can get lucky once, twice, even 3 times, but 7 times?

So that's 7-0 last year on posted LOCK picks, and 5-0 ATS so far this year in my thread.

[ouman101]

As I stated earlier in this thread, I'm not trying to make this a career. Gambling (no matter how good you are) is far too risky to make a career imo. Because after all, it is gambling. Besides I think I can be successful in other areas. So the move to Las Vegas is not plausible in my case. So what does that leave me with? Spreading action to books is a good idea, but only for the short-term because eventually they will catch on to you and ban you. What about local bookies? Are they legit? btw I'm posting my LOCK of the week later today

Didn't say move out there, I said fly out there on weekends or times when you place your "lock" bets. Keep betting until they won't take your action. Then you take a friend and they place the bet for you. My thoughts are that you should worry about this once you start getting banned from places. Until then, don't worry about it and fire away.

[ssk13809]

Didn't say move out there, I said fly out there on weekends or times when you place your "lock" bets. Keep betting until they won't take your action. Then you take a friend and they place the bet for you. My thoughts are that you should worry about this once you start getting banned from places. Until then, don't worry about it and fire away.

Even flying their every weekend might be out of my reach.

So basically, winning at a high rate alone isn't enough to get millions. You will need to set time aside and go out of your way? I mean winning at a high rate alone is very difficult to do. But I guess it isn't enough?

What would you say is the most I can get (consistently over the long-run GIVEN I win at a high rate) without having to go out of my way? So basically, given a high win rate, what is the expected amount of money I can earn/year without going out of my way like Vegas on the weekends?

And remember, I don't just do lock picks. I do many ML Bets in the NFL (See below), and other "Near Locks" ATS. In fact, I'm just 3-0 on LOCK picks this year in the NFL. The other 2 came from "near locks", which I hit about 80% (As opposed to 90%) .

Furthermore, I will start doing NBA ATS/ML after a few more weeks. (Just like NFL, I need 3-4 weeks to get used to each NBA Team)

[Tree Rollins]

Once again, there are many issues with that a) Who is ACTUALLY going to pay a million using that strategy? Books cut of your action. I think I will be done before I get to 100k. And then some books have problems paying that much. But thats not hard to overcome choosing the right book. And even if you spread to multiple books, and miraculously accumulate a million before they cut your action off. Eventually they will cut your action off if you keep winning. What then? History?

You seem to make a lot of excuses. If you're hitting at that kind of clip, then you'd be spending more time trying to figure out how to make it happen instead of spending all your time making excuses for why you can't.

[Tree Rollins]

Didn't say move out there, I said fly out there on weekends or times when you place your "lock" bets. Keep betting until they won't take your action. Then you take a friend and they place the bet for you. My thoughts are that you should worry about this once you start getting banned from places. Until then, don't worry about it and fire away.

Don't you think it's weird how this guy has a million excuses for why he can't make money, even though he hit's 90%?

He's either lazy, dumb, or a liar. Anyone hitting at the rate he claims to hit, would be loaded by now, no if ands or buts. Well, unless they're stupid or the most lazy person ever.

[ssk13809]

Don't you think it's weird how this guy has a million excuses for why he can't make money, even though he hit's 90%?

He's either lazy, dumb, or a liar. Anyone hitting at the rate he claims to hit, would be loaded by now, no if ands or buts. Well, unless they're stupid or the most lazy person ever.

Maybe because I have no starting bankroll? I go to college currently and have to pay tuition. I only really bet pocket money with a friend who is also a part-time bookie (No one else would take limits as low as I bet lol).

I started with $80 and now I have $320 in 5 weeks and have yet to have a losing weekend. Yeah you can laugh as this is nothing to you. But it's all I got for now.


Eventually I'll have more, and it's for that day I am preparing for.

[ok now what]

I wouldn't laugh. You're up 400%. The millionaire thing is a lovely ideal. However, you've got to put this in more easily achievable benchmarks. I've watched people intelligently get from $300 to $50,000. They did it with benchmarks. However, $50,000 is an amount of money you CAN accumulate in sports/racing/etc. . . with some dilligence. Too much can happen (cutting off, etc) on the way to a million that makes it not usually worth the candle, esp. if you're trying to do it in under 7-10 years.

You have to eventually stay with the same focus at 4-5 digit situations that we all can more easily do at the 2 or 3 digit wagers.

Educated friends of mine who play the stock market play it beautifully, and with confidence when they're only churning 10-15% returns over a couple months with a few thousand bucks placed somewhere, but they all become incredibly fearful to swing harder when rare, HUGE opportunity strikes (even when EASILY affordable by bankroll % - ex. it would only require 4-5% of the bankroll) or make braver plays they say they want to make. The braver plays would have won more often than not.

They will not learn. Most can't. I don't have it to swing with, but that is the goal. . . if I do ever accumulate a bankroll permitting such large wagers. . . I want to approach them with the same level of sensibility and confidence I would want when I'm betting a $20. I think many people forget how to do this when they come into serious cash.

[ssk13809]

I wouldn't laugh. You're up 400%. The millionaire thing is a lovely ideal. However, you've got to put this in more easily achievable benchmarks. I've watched people intelligently get from $300 to $50,000. They did it with benchmarks. However, $50,000 is an amount of money you CAN accumulate in sports/racing/etc. . . with some dilligence. Too much can happen (cutting off, etc) on the way to a million that makes it not usually worth the candle, esp. if you're trying to do it in under 7-10 years.

You have to eventually stay with the same focus at 4-5 digit situations that we all can more easily do at the 2 or 3 digit wagers.

Educated friends of mine who play the stock market play it beautifully, and with confidence when they're only churning 10-15% returns over a couple months with a few thousand bucks placed somewhere, but they all become incredibly fearful to swing harder when rare, HUGE opportunity strikes (even when EASILY affordable by bankroll % - ex. it would only require 4-5% of the bankroll) or make braver plays they say they want to make. The braver plays would have won more often than not.

They will not learn. Most can't. I don't have it to swing with, but that is the goal. . . if I do ever accumulate a bankroll permitting such large wagers. . . I want to approach them with the same level of sensibility and confidence I would want when I'm betting a $20. I think many people forget how to do this when they come into serious cash.

Interesting post. Out of curiosity, how long do you think it would take to accumulate 50k without much hassle (aside from winning)? Also, I'm trying to figure out how one would think differently when placing a $20 bet vs. 2k bet? It should all be based on the same factors, but maybe more confident on the 2k bet.

[wtf]

what is your urgency?

why you so desperate but still unwilling to lift a finger, as in fly to vegas, borrow some cash for a bankroll etc.

[turkstock]

if i knew for a fact i'd hit 90 legit, i'd be in vegas right now. who wouldn't and why?

[ssk13809]

if i knew for a fact i'd hit 90 legit, i'd be in vegas right now. who wouldn't and why?

As I said earlier, gambling is too risky to make a career, after all, it's gambling. Besides, I think I can do well in other areas as well.


But exactly what would you do in Vegas? How long do you think you would last and how much you think you could make? And how?

[Rod1010]

lmfao !! this is the guy who said pick nfl games ATS is too hard and picking Money lines is the only way to make money. hahaha

[ssk13809]

lmfao !! this is the guy who said pick nfl games ATS is too hard and picking Money lines is the only way to make money. hahaha

Do you realize you are the only one hating?

Hey so what were you saying about the -400 ML games I bet? Oh wait, that never happened, -300? Nope. Try finding -200 game I bet before talking and making up fake stats for me.

[Rod1010]

haha i will be posting ur thread later with you crazy heavy favs picks and you saying picking ats is too hard haha. nooooob! everyone is hating cuz ur just another loser on this board.

[ssk13809]

haha i will be posting ur thread later with you crazy heavy favs picks and you saying picking ats is too hard haha. nooooob! everyone is hating cuz ur just another loser on this board.

No one is hating besides you


Can you believe it guys? I'm a loser as my picks have just gotten me +44% in 4-5 weeks.

Also, I said "ATS" is too hard? And I am 5-0 ATS. I don't know if this guy is trying to diss me or what with that.

Lastly, he claims I have bet heavy favorites over -400 ML, when I can't recall going over -200 ML ever.




What a joke. Oh well, haters gonna hate.

[Full Time Hobo]

You have been given plenty of info and just don't seem to want to act on any of it.

The chances of you getting kicked out of any book is slim to none until you really become successful.

Get multiple books with a solid amount in each. Start hitting your "Locks" and make your money. Withdraw often and don't win incredible amounts at a single book.

When you withdraw a decent amount make you're way to Vegas and place some bets there.

What you also fail to mention is that your 90% hit rate is from a sample size of less than 20. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but the main reason you're getting so much hate is because your ego is making you look like you gamble all year and hit 90% from a much larger sample size.

You're up to $320, nice. Get to at least 4 figures or higher before you really start worrying about being kicked for winning. Locals are good too. They should not be all you have though. Get a local, offshore account, and a betting exchange like matchbook.

Betting exchanges i think will work in your favor considering your supposed math skills - its like trading in the market with other punters - Exchanges don't care how much you're up or down as long as you're giving them action.

So to sum this up you have a few options -

1 - Get multiple offshore accounts (A+ rated at top of page are good) / and/or local
2 - Betting exchange (like matchbook)
3- Vegas

Either way until you're making serious money (not hundreds of dollars but thousands) I wouldn't worry about being kicked from a book because honestly if you're taking money lines then you are bound to go broke depending on how much chalk you are going to lay


Either way good luck -

[ssk13809]

You have been given plenty of info and just don't seem to want to act on any of it.

The chances of you getting kicked out of any book is slim to none until you really become successful.

Get multiple books with a solid amount in each. Start hitting your "Locks" and make your money. Withdraw often and don't win incredible amounts at a single book.

When you withdraw a decent amount make you're way to Vegas and place some bets there.

What you also fail to mention is that your 90% hit rate is from a sample size of less than 20. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but the main reason you're getting so much hate is because your ego is making you look like you gamble all year and hit 90% from a much larger sample size.

You're up to $320, nice. Get to at least 4 figures or higher before you really start worrying about being kicked for winning. Locals are good too. They should not be all you have though. Get a local, offshore account, and a betting exchange like matchbook.

Betting exchanges i think will work in your favor considering your supposed math skills - its like trading in the market with other punters - Exchanges don't care how much you're up or down as long as you're giving them action.

So to sum this up you have a few options -

1 - Get multiple offshore accounts (A+ rated at top of page are good) / and/or local
2 - Betting exchange (like matchbook)
3- Vegas

Either way until you're making serious money (not hundreds of dollars but thousands) I wouldn't worry about being kicked from a book because honestly if you're taking money lines then you are bound to go broke depending on how much chalk you are going to lay


Either way good luck -

Thanks for the advice! Though I heard places like matchbook its harder to withdraw and actually get paid larger sums of money. And remember, moving to Vegas is not an option. If I do all you said (besides for Vegas) and continue to win at the rates I claim, how much money you think I can gather in a year? And will I be able to sustain this income long-term?


Though one thing you said really intrigues me

honestly if you're taking money lines then you are bound to go broke depending on how much chalk you are going to lay

Why do you say this? I do great at NFL Pick'Em (So basically I'm good at picking pure winners) and have good mathematical understanding of money lines. I don't lay heavy chalk in any of my NFL games. I don't think I have bet any -200 or over. And so far I'm 8-4 with an avg. odds of +112. So obviously, I'm not picking heavy favorites all day here.

So why do you say I will fail at MLs?

[KKoz9]

Bet 1 penny to start and double your bet each day for 9 days in a row on your locks, take a day of to account for your losing pick, repeat this two more times doubling you bet throughout.

Voila, how much do you have?

[Full Time Hobo]

Thanks for the advice! Though I heard places like matchbook its harder to withdraw and actually get paid larger sums of money. And remember, moving to Vegas is not an option. If I do all you said (besides for Vegas) and continue to win at the rates I claim, how much money you think I can gather in a year? And will I be able to sustain this income long-term?


Though one thing you said really intrigues me



Why do you say this? I do great at NFL Pick'Em (So basically I'm good at picking pure winners) and have good mathematical understanding of money lines. I don't lay heavy chalk in any of my NFL games. I don't think I have bet any -200 or over. And so far I'm 8-4 with an avg. odds of +112. So obviously, I'm not picking heavy favorites all day here.

So why do you say I will fail at MLs?

Its all relative to how much you are wagering.
Money management is key. I am assuming you have none So you could put more than 75% of your roll at risk for a possible $10 gain.

What I mean by you're eventually going to go broke is that all it takes is some huge Fav to flop for you to lose a massive amount of your role. If youre not picking huge favs great for you. In the long run it will screw you.

And Matchbook they have Book to book transfers to respectable books(A+ here)... once that disappears then you need to start worrying about you're money there... until then i wouldnt worry about getting paid or anything. Just do some research into some books. You can find a lot of good info on this site alone.

[ssk13809]

Its all relative to how much you are wagering.
Money management is key. I am assuming you have none So you could put more than 75% of your roll at risk for a possible $10 gain.

What I mean by you're eventually going to go broke is that all it takes is some huge Fav to flop for you to lose a massive amount of your role. If youre not picking huge favs great for you. In the long run it will screw you.

Yeah I never bet on a huge ML favorite straight-up. Thus I don't have to worry about what you are talking about.

I still consider ML my biggest strength and think it will profit me the most. I think this DESPITE the 90% ATS Lock Rate.

[tony_come]

pound the fukk this weekend!

[JMobile]

You have a better chance at robbing a Casino in less then 2 hours rather than waiting 2 years to hope that your 70% picks take you to $1 Gazzillion.

[Intuitive_Edge]

Il give you a lock. This thread will NOT end well

[HawkEye]

SSK13809 To Reach $1m (-110)
SSK13809 To Not Reach $1m (-25,000)

[TodayIsForgotten]

Wow, 3 months later and its still the same questions? I"m just curious if this guy is posting all these 7-0 and 5-0 records yet wants to make a million in x-years but doesnt want to make a career out of it? Week after week he's having winning weekends but yet, gambling is too risky? Came in with a lot of swagger but yet gambling is too risky? The one thing I found out, is some one who has to ask a million questions on a site that has plenty of resources is usually hiding something.

[chico2663]

man this some funny sheeeet

[ChileCheese]

How much is he claiming to be up now?

[ssk13809]

Wow, 3 months later and its still the same questions? I"m just curious if this guy is posting all these 7-0 and 5-0 records yet wants to make a million in x-years but doesnt want to make a career out of it? Week after week he's having winning weekends but yet, gambling is too risky? Came in with a lot of swagger but yet gambling is too risky? The one thing I found out, is some one who has to ask a million questions on a site that has plenty of resources is usually hiding something.

Having a normal (well paying) job always gives you a winning weekend. 100%. Not the 90% my locks can do. Just that right there is enough to have a different real career.

[ehp6737]

Can't believe this thread is still getting bumped. D-Bag please exit here >>>>>>>>

[casola]

stumbled across this thread, so where is this lock of yours??

"btw I'm posting my LOCK of the week later today"

[DeeWizzle]

I need $1,000,000 by tomorrow, just waiting for your