Curious comes in with his "contribution" in an attempt to make even Shamswolf look good.
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donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#36Comment -
ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
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ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
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#38
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ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
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#40Shams,
You're making yourself look like an idiot.
This whole argument is pointless, because you'd have to have a preternatural gift at picking winner while still being an idiot of the highest order to have a long term record >60%.
But you're not going to understand that. So whatev.Comment -
ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
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#42yeah that's right... whatever....
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ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
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#44Curious I'll be happy to show you how I bet... You can't really do it with the book you are at but watch how it works and I have no doubt you will back me up...
Hey curious let me know where I can email you... I'll send you a write up and just tell me what you think of the theory...
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curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#45Curious I'll be happy to show you how I bet... You can't really do it with the book you are at but watch how it works and I have no doubt you will back me up...
Hey curious let me know where I can email you... I'll send you a write up and just tell me what you think of the theory...
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ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
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#46Yeah I'll post it for a few minutes...
I have one loss already today and here are the two pending..
1) BET ID=232463619
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 300.00 to win 230.77 Result: Pending
xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
xNewMexico2Q +3 (-130)
2) BET ID=232463568
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 200.00 to win 173.91 Result: Pending
xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
Under 17 (-115)
3) BET ID=232441175
Straight Wager 12/22/07 15:14 ET
bet 300.00 to win 272.73 Result: Wager Lost
2SMississippi 2ndHalf 14
2CincinnatiU 2ndHalf 17 12/22/07(16:00 ET)
Under 27.5
Last edited by ShamsWoof10; 12-22-07, 06:02 PM.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#47Yeah I'll post it for a few minutes...
I have one loss already today and here are the two pending..
1) BET ID=232463619
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 300.00 to win 230.77 Result: Pending
xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
xNewMexico2Q +3 (-130)
2) BET ID=232463568
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 200.00 to win 173.91 Result: Pending
xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
Under 17 (-115)
3) BET ID=232441175
Straight Wager 12/22/07 15:14 ET
bet 300.00 to win 272.73 Result: Wager Lost
2SMississippi 2ndHalf 14
2CincinnatiU 2ndHalf 17 12/22/07(16:00 ET)
Under 27.5
Last edited by curious; 12-22-07, 06:09 PM.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#48Curious,
I'm simply pointing out that you have absolutely no clue about sports betting, among other things, and should read more and talk less. Almost everything that comes out of your mouth is embarrassing.
Shams,
Like Thremp said, if you are really hitting over 60% you are a complete idiot and are not betting anywhere near enough games.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#50Curious,
I'm simply pointing out that you have absolutely no clue about sports betting, among other things, and should read more and talk less. Almost everything that comes out of your mouth is embarrassing.
Shams,
Like Thremp said, if you are really hitting over 60% you are a complete idiot and are not betting anywhere near enough games.Comment -
ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
- 4827
#51Ok curious I got it and will email you after halftime..
Just ignore these fools... If it works out just back me up on it BUT DO NOT tell anyone what you are doing... If it does not work then slam me I deserve it... You don't have to put money down just watch it and see what happens...
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curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#52Ok curious I got it and will email you after halftime..
Just ignore these fools... If it works out just back me up on it BUT DO NOT tell anyone what you are doing... If it does not work then slam me I deserve it... You don't have to put money down just watch it and see what happens...
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donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#53When I want your opinion jackass I will beat it out of you.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#54BTW, it is sad how critical thinking skills are widely ignored here in favor of the preconceived notions of -ev bettors.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#57Why would I do that? I'm more than comfortable with my bankroll growth and my ROI and no dick waving contest on a forum is going to make me do something that is clearly -ev for me. In the past I have posted some picks on a minor sport as a gift to a forum that has taught me a lot, but it's much more satisfying for me to teach someone theory than to just give them picks. Teach a man to fish rather than just giving him fish, or however the proverb goes.Comment -
ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
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#58It doesn't matter if he wins, what he picks or if he even wins. This is a purely theoretical arguments and his theory is sound. If you are winning 60% of your ATS picks, you likely can bet the lower confidence ones at a smaller unit size for a very significant profit. Pretty simple idea.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#59It doesn't matter if he wins, what he picks or if he even wins. This is a purely theoretical arguments and his theory is sound. If you are winning 60% of your ATS picks, you likely can bet the lower confidence ones at a smaller unit size for a very significant profit. Pretty simple idea.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#60Why would I do that? I'm more than comfortable with my bankroll growth and my ROI and no dick waving contest on a forum is going to make me do something that is clearly -ev for me. In the past I have posted some picks on a minor sport as a gift to a forum that has taught me a lot, but it's much more satisfying for me to teach someone theory than to just give them picks. Teach a man to fish rather than just giving him fish, or however the proverb goes.Comment -
propSBR MVP
- 09-04-07
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#61I'll take +200 on winning 60% over 100 bets @ -115 max
As long as I have at least 3 years to place all 100 bets.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#62One only has to look at your posts and the idiotic parlays and donk teasers you've posted to realize that the vast majority of your sports bets are -EV. Anyway, as Thremp said, whether or not I am a winning bettor is not what is irrelevant here. The theory is what matters. If you'd like to argue that hitting over 60% on mainstream US sports is possible while attempting to make as much money as possible, I'd love to hear it.Comment -
ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
- 2067
#63Curious,
Umm... Most experts don't post picks since there is nothing to gain.Comment -
SBR LouBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-02-07
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#64Some of these guys are like vultures who are quick to pick at somebody's math when they misspeak about something, but are otherwise absent from the handicapping front.
You're not required to post plays, but you must have some social skills and understand these arguments will recur if you don't join the ranks and socialize with the rest of us on actual game discussion or at least share some plays too.
It creates the impression that you are just here to expose the chinks in peoples armor, and that's not going to be received well even if you have a mathematical leg to stand on. People don't like being called out for sharing their opinions on handicapping or their beliefs by people who never put their own necks out there...Comment -
ShamsWoof10SBR MVP
- 11-15-06
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#65How do you know if they are "experts" then..?
For the record.. "crazy" I indirectly recently explain my method to you and you did agree..
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curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#66One only has to look at your posts and the idiotic parlays and donk teasers you've posted to realize that the vast majority of your sports bets are -EV. Anyway, as Thremp said, whether or not I am a winning bettor is not what is irrelevant here. The theory is what matters. If you'd like to argue that hitting over 60% on mainstream US sports is possible while attempting to make as much money as possible, I'd love to hear it.
Now, if you want to talk about my MLB posts, they have a verifiable high win %, my NCAAB posts have a verifiable high win %, and my big dog NCAAF picks have a verifiable high win %.
Next time you start talking shit to someone, maybe you should know what the **** you are talking about.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#67Curious,
There is a big difference between luckboxing it up over a small sample size and actually being a winner.Comment -
curiousRestricted User
- 07-20-07
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#68yes, my point exactly. There is a big difference between you shooting your mouth off about what an expert you are and actually being a winner. And since I have a verifiable record starting in July and you have NO verifiable record you are a blowhard.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#69Apparently reading comprehension is another skill you lack.Comment
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