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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I asked a while back and was told that SBR has met them, and there have been nothing but positive reports from posters about them. But due to their connection with existing poorly rated books we could not add them with a rating higher than those. Which would not be helpful to posters or Betnow. So it was decided to not add them at all for now.
    Interesting.

    Would it take a change in the poorly rated connected books to affect BetNow?

    Curiously, what would have to happen to change SBR's view and issue a rating?

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    Don't know KVB. Not my dept and I don't know much about the background.

    It sounded like the vibe was positive toward them to me though.

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    I wonder if time and positive reporting will help.

    But I can see where the debate kicks in.

    Outfits that warrant a negative rating can't just be able to open a new website and get a "do-over" with no scrutiny.

    I suppose time and positive behavior heal some wounds.

    Like a prison...lol.

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    IMO Betnow is the best book out there not rated by SBR. Definitely in my top 10 overall and maybe even in the top 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    IMO Betnow is the best book out there not rated by SBR. Definitely in my top 10 overall and maybe even in the top 5.
    Top 5 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I wonder if time and positive reporting will help.

    But I can see where the debate kicks in.

    Outfits that warrant a negative rating can't just be able to open a new website and get a "do-over" with no scrutiny.

    I suppose time and positive behavior heal some wounds.

    Like a prison...lol.
    They certainly shouldn't get a do-over. But I do wonder how old the documented issues with the related sites are. Perhaps the ownership group/management has had some turnover or have been seeking more positive customer relations lately. And that could be materializing in their old properties as well as BetNow. Just wondering....

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    One issue is if it is a small forum book it could be risky

    We have seen this before and got burned by posters pumping up a book

    Need much more time and need to see who owns it

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    i don't think its fair to BetNow to say forum members are "pumping" a book. we are happy with our experiences. they are number 4 for me. i just wish they had more alternate lines for totals and sides on football and basketball.

    they also seemed to remove that captcha thing which sucked major ass
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    If they’re owned by that big group and it’s confirmed then it’s not a forum Book

    SBG Global?


    Will have to get SBR administration to confirm


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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    They certainly shouldn't get a do-over. But I do wonder how old the documented issues with the related sites are. Perhaps the ownership group/management has had some turnover or have been seeking more positive customer relations lately. And that could be materializing in their old properties as well as BetNow. Just wondering....
    Agreed, it needs to be researched a little further but for now I suppose if SBR's is holding off on the ratings, maybe they are doing some research.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    i don't think its fair to BetNow to say forum members are "pumping" a book. we are happy with our experiences. they are number 4 for me. i just wish they had more alternate lines for totals and sides on football and basketball.

    they also seemed to remove that captcha thing which sucked major ass
    Agreed, if anything it should give SBR more incentive to finalize some kind of rating, or warning.

    I say "warning" but I have to say that I currently have no reason to believe there should be a warning for betnow and in fact have reason to say the opposite.

    I hate when the captcha breaks and it won't let you pass.

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    Forum book? Are you kidding me this is no forum book. Hands-down better than betus

    Some people don’t like a good thing when they see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Forum book? Are you kidding me this is no forum book. Hands-down better than betus

    Some people don’t like a good thing when they see it
    Right? It's like too many positive posts and posters get sketchy about it.

    To be fair though, we've all been burned before.

    It's up to SBR now to give us the inner details and information to let us decide.

    The Forum has clearly had a good experience with them.

    Don't think I've read a negative thing about the book and money transfers yet. Spread vig can be high, but there are definitley worse things to say about a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If they’re owned by that big group and it’s confirmed then it’s not a forum Book

    SBG Global?


    Will have to get SBR administration to confirm


    Genie researching


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    SBG is one of my favorite post-up shops offshore on the planet........consistently in the top three on a monthly basis.

    LOVE SBG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If they’re owned by that big group and it’s confirmed then it’s not a forum Book

    SBG Global?


    Will have to get SBR administration to confirm


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    It's definitely SBGGlobal. They stopped accepting US customers and spun off BetNow for this purpose. Their Join Now form creates an account at BetNow for US based players. I know this because I tried signing up for SBGGlobal and accidentally created a second BetNow account in my name, which I then had to contact them about to delete. There's no indication that you're signing up for BetNow throughout their registration process - you land at BetNow at the end and it's a complete surprise. At least this is how it functioned when I tried this well over a year ago.

    That, plus their lines are identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Forum book? Are you kidding me this is no forum book. Hands-down better than betus

    Some people don’t like a good thing when they see it

    Don't get me wrong - I'm a fan of BetNow. But I do find it funny how you have such polar opposite opinions of BetNow vs. BetUS when they both suffer from the exact same issue (past bad behavior but more recent positive reviews).

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    A long way to go to rate them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Don't get me wrong - I'm a fan of BetNow. But I do find it funny how you have such polar opposite opinions of BetNow vs. BetUS when they both suffer from the exact same issue (past bad behavior but more recent positive reviews).
    Wrong

    Betnow NEVER had a non pay issues.

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    Another example.

    5dimes vs betanysports.


    Dimes Tony used to screw with people.

    BAS no

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Wrong

    Betnow NEVER had a non pay issues.
    Dude.

    BetNow = SBGGlobal

    We've known this for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Dude.

    BetNow = SBGGlobal

    We've known this for a while now.
    Dude I just gave example

    Not same issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Dude I just gave example

    Not same issue.
    Your example is nonsensical because:

    A) You aren't talking about some rogue middle manager at 5Dimes here. Tony was the OWNER of 5Dimes, and therefore set the tone and the direction of the company. If 5D and BAS are one in the same, as many here suspect, rest assured he would have treated his BAS customers the same way.

    But more importantly...

    B) TONY HAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS. How is he relevant to anything in this discussion?


    Consider this thought experiment. Imagine a world where - just like BetNow - BetUS spun off a completely different website (let's call it "BetFuture"). And all of the positive reviews you've been seeing about BetUS over the past couple years were instead being said about BetFuture. It seems to me like you might have a new favorite book!

    Both BetNow and BetUS appear to be going through an effort of rehabilitating their image. The only difference is that one didn't rebrand with a fancy new website. Maybe they should, as it appears to have a big impact on some people.


    Again, I'm a big fan of BetNow. I'm in no way attacking them. I'm just pointing out the logical inconsistency. Sportsbooks have rehabbed their image before in the past, and it will happen again in the future.
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    Betus It’s a much much bigger operation than Betnow they’re not even in the same league as cash 💰


    If Betnow is same book as sbg global that’s a different story

    If it’s not the same but they’re not in the BETUS category

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    Gold can we get an update on the status of the Betnow and it's associated family of books SBR ratings?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Your example is nonsensical because:

    A) You aren't talking about some rogue middle manager at 5Dimes here. Tony was the OWNER of 5Dimes, and therefore set the tone and the direction of the company. If 5D and BAS are one in the same, as many here suspect, rest assured he would have treated his BAS customers the same way.

    But more importantly...

    B) TONY HAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS. How is he relevant to anything in this discussion?


    Consider this thought experiment. Imagine a world where - just like BetNow - BetUS spun off a completely different website (let's call it "BetFuture"). And all of the positive reviews you've been seeing about BetUS over the past couple years were instead being said about BetFuture. It seems to me like you might have a new favorite book!

    Both BetNow and BetUS appear to be going through an effort of rehabilitating their image. The only difference is that one didn't rebrand with a fancy new website. Maybe they should, as it appears to have a big impact on some people.


    Again, I'm a big fan of BetNow. I'm in no way attacking them. I'm just pointing out the logical inconsistency. Sportsbooks have rehabbed their image before in the past, and it will happen again in the future.
    Thanks for your explanation how you’re thinking.

    Let’s make money and be glad we have a place that has been paying.

    Cheers!

    Best wishes.

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    We’re trying to figure out if they’re affiliated with SBG global a pretty big brand from a long time ago


    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Gold can we get an update on the status of the Betnow and it's associated family of books SBR ratings?


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    Thank you.

    Please keep us posted.

    For now, a lot of solid posters having good experiences time and time again and there is no reason to question the enthusiasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    We’re trying to figure out if they’re affiliated with SBG global a pretty big brand from a long time ago
    The answer was s YES

    Nothing to figure.

    SBG stopped taking new accounts from US.
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    Mike there is a chain here

    We have attorneys checking into who owns what

    Bear with us and stop being trigger happy with your gun, you can’t just pull it out every time an issue in the street

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Mike there is a chain here

    We have attorneys checking into who owns what

    Bear with us and stop being trigger happy with your gun, you can’t just pull it out every time an issue in the street



    Good point

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    Paid me 10k in the last 24 hours
    Yes sir!!

    No bs book. You play you win, you will get paid.

    Real simple.

    Bet baseball a dime a dime counts towards roll over.

    Real simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Bet baseball a dime a dime counts towards roll over.
    This is quite nice. One way in which Betnow is better than BOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    Paid me 10k in the last 24 hours
    nice Ace. hope a lot of that was profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    nice Ace. hope a lot of that was profit.
    Deposited 2k and got the 2k 100% bonus. Ran it up to a little over 10k. Good start to the baseball season!
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