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  • RangeFinder
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    • 10-27-16
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    #1
    Sports books are showing signs that they want baseball to end...
    The numbers being offered are getting worse as the day goes by. A sign that sports books are not making any money at baseball right now. They can't wait for football. I can, lol. Numbers are getting to a point where it's getting real hard to find value and if I do, I need to jump n real early. Waiting is not good.
  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
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    #2
    Yeah nothing ever sticks out
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    • Waterstpub87
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      • 09-09-09
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      #3
      Odds being posted later as well.
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      • ChuckyTheGoat
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        • 04-04-11
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        #4
        Good luck, Range. Hope u find some winners.
        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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        • RangeFinder
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          • 10-27-16
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          #5
          It's just the spreads in some of these books. DSI is beyond ridiculous. 17-20 back on most numbers. At least 5Dimes is being fair with most games with a dime line, but the rest of them are running scared. I thought they were in the gambling business. Apparently not.
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            • 04-04-11
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            #6
            Range, been a while since I've bet Baseball. But you'right. Low-juice around Pk-em games. Goes up significantly beyond -150.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • jjgold
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              • 07-20-05
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              #7
              There's not enough volume that's the main reason


              It's not because people win
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              • funnyb25
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                • 07-09-09
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                #8
                I never want to say something is easy, cuz it isn't. But to be honest...They have a set of teams to slide when all the squares are going to pound them. Dodgers for example...I was too puzzy to post this, but I told m yy buddy to watch out fr them against the Braves....I would not be surprised if Braves take another or even potentially sweep. Another one...Cubs....won what? 7 straight after the break? Something like that....now watch them get swept at home to the Cards

                Books doing fine per usual
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                • RudyRuetigger
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                  • 08-24-10
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                  #9
                  great thread

                  you are the type of guy to say...."anybody else hitting the cubs daily"....after they've won 12 in a row
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                  • Mike Huntertz
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                    • 08-19-09
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                    #10
                    5D and Pinny are good.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
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                      #11
                      Books never lose

                      Easiest job in the world to make money
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                      • juicername
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                        • 10-14-15
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                        #12
                        how are the numbers offered getting worse? must be value on one of the sides then?
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                        • ApricotSinner32
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                          • 11-28-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Books never lose

                          Easiest job in the world to make money
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                          • RangeFinder
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                            • 10-27-16
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            great thread

                            you are the type of guy to say...."anybody else hitting the cubs daily"....after they've won 12 in a row
                            Not sure what you mean by this.
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                            • RangeFinder
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                              • 10-27-16
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by juicername
                              how are the numbers offered getting worse? must be value on one of the sides then?
                              There isn't value on either side on most games, that's why these books are coming at you with 20 cent lines. Even 15 is tough. Either bet dime line or better or you're going to lose money long term. That's what I'm getting at with this thread. Most books are scared of a dime line anymore. They don't want to take risks anymore like the old days.
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                              • jjgold
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                                • 07-20-05
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                                #16
                                They don't want scalpers nobody does

                                Waste of space and time

                                Most of pinnacle heavy action is just scalping not sharps
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                                • thomorino
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                                  • 06-01-17
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                                  #17
                                  Yeah, I am always amused at the fade the public people in baseball - the books don't give a fuckk about public betting trends in baseball the vast majority of money being bet is sharp -and big sharp bets are not offset with pubic money so the line and juice moves in games sharps hit are significant. Public bettors aren't making money betting baseball but you have to hit the lines early to get any value and books like betdsi are horrible at putting up early openers - betonline is the only offshore books that consistently puts up early opening lines.
                                  Last edited by thomorino; 07-22-17, 01:00 PM.
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                                  • RangeFinder
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                                    • 10-27-16
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by thomorino
                                    Yeah, I am always amused at the fade the public people in baseball - the books don't give a penetrate about public betting trends in baseball the vast majority of money being bet is sharp -and big sharp bets are not offset with pubic money so the line and juice moves in games sharps hit are significant. Public bettors aren't making money betting baseball but you have to hit the lines early to get any value and books like betdsi are horrible at putting up early openers - betonline is the only offshore books that consistently puts up early opening lines.
                                    BetOnline is the only book that's willing to take the chance of early numbers as far as offshore, and they do keep most of there numbers at the dime line level. One of the few books that do.
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                                    • gauchojake
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                                      • 09-17-10
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                                      #19
                                      I don't really pay attention to baseball lines, but wouldn't it stand to reason that as the season progresses, the lines get sharper and value decreases?
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                                      • RangeFinder
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                                        • 10-27-16
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                        I don't really pay attention to baseball lines, but wouldn't it stand to reason that as the season progresses, the lines get sharper and value decreases?
                                        Yes, but, I think a dime line is fair. Most of these offshore books are at 15-20 cent lines which is unfair to the player. Numbers are sharp enough without all the excessive take back.
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                                        • Statman
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                                          • 12-04-10
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                                          #21
                                          Stay with 5dimes overnight lines of 5 cents and you'll see the value....

                                          Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                          There isn't value on either side on most games, that's why these books are coming at you with 20 cent lines. Even 15 is tough. Either bet dime line or better or you're going to lose money long term. That's what I'm getting at with this thread. Most books are scared of a dime line anymore. They don't want to take risks anymore like the old days.
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
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                                            • 08-24-10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Statman
                                            Stay with 5dimes overnight lines of 5 cents and you'll see the value....
                                            bro this is kerrywood or flipsiderm

                                            he doesn't want an answer

                                            he wants his E-penis...yes e-penis to grow
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                                            • biggie12
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                                              • 12-30-05
                                              • 13783

                                              #23
                                              Range why arent you on the cover of fortune 500?


                                              Lines are the same nothing changed yall have homework to do
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                                              • lakerboy
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                                                • 04-02-09
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                                                #24
                                                Baseball line shopping ended 3 years ago.
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                                                • Otters27
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                                                  #25
                                                  Better bettors bet baseball. Football season welcomes the sqaure
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
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                                                    • 08-24-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    Baseball line shopping ended 3 years ago.
                                                    id say longer than that for americans
                                                    Originally posted by Otters27
                                                    Better bettors bet baseball. Football season welcomes the sqaure
                                                    wrong!
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                                                    • funnyb25
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                                                      • 07-09-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Funnyb is showing signs that he wants baseball to continue forever...

                                                      This could all change after 1 day though..
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                                                      • RangeFinder
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                                                        • 10-27-16
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by biggie12
                                                        Range why arent you on the cover of fortune 500?


                                                        Lines are the same nothing changed yall have homework to do
                                                        I did my homework. If you don't see a difference, then maybe you need to do some homework. Or go have another drink with Rudy.
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                                                        • funnyb25
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                                                          #29
                                                          College Football is the easiest sport to cap IMO

                                                          Heart is always there....Losing schools still have pride and players who want it...less variation....Injuries announced way prior....Rivalries to keep dogchit teams focused....etc....


                                                          Only problem with it is there are so many games and it really takes a lot of time
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
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                                                            • 08-24-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                            I did my homework. If you don't see a difference, then maybe you need to do some homework. Or go have another drink with Rudy.
                                                            we know bro

                                                            you are a big time winner kerry
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                                                            • lakerboy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                              College Football is the easiest sport to cap IMO

                                                              Heart is always there....Losing schools still have pride and players who want it...less variation....Injuries announced way prior....Rivalries to keep dogchit teams focused....etc....


                                                              Only problem with it is there are so many games and it really takes a lot of time
                                                              Agreed.
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                                                              • biggie12
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                                                                • 12-30-05
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                I did my homework. If you don't see a difference, then maybe you need to do some homework. Or go have another drink with Rudy.

                                                                Quit while your ahead

                                                                Rudy what are we drinking on this humid hot saturday
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                                                                • Mackballs
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                                                                  • 12-01-16
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                                  College Football is the easiest sport to cap IMO

                                                                  Heart is always there....Losing schools still have pride and players who want it...less variation....Injuries announced way prior....Rivalries to keep dogchit teams focused....etc....


                                                                  Only problem with it is there are so many games and it really takes a lot of time
                                                                  No doubt. College hoops close second imo
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
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                                                                    • 08-24-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mackballs
                                                                    No doubt. College hoops close second imo
                                                                    this is where sbr doesn't have a fukkin clue

                                                                    obv college basketball is ahead of football
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                                                                    • CappinTerp
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                                                                      • 11-26-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                      The numbers being offered are getting worse as the day goes by. A sign that sports books are not making any money at baseball right now. They can't wait for football. I can, lol. Numbers are getting to a point where it's getting real hard to find value and if I do, I need to jump n real early. Waiting is not good.
                                                                      Yea,this is a good point Range....many books are using a 15+ spread btwn games. And the books every year look forward to the NFL season.A lot bettors that are not true gamblers,come out of the wood work.Every week they bet the fav. and/or the overs......FYI - In the NFL the point spread only comes into play about 18% of the time!!!
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