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    Somebody knew something about Jake Arrieta...

    The dude must have drank with someone and maybe he was hung over.....somebody knew somehing.....line dropped all the way from +170 mets to +125 mets and it happens to be arrieta's worst performance of teh season

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    Yeah we watched his last game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charcoalbbq View Post
    The dude must have drank with someone and maybe he was hung over.....somebody knew somehing.....line dropped all the way from +170 mets to +125 mets and it happens to be arrieta's worst performance of teh season

    yes..everyone had Mets

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    it's called books putting out a bad line. they do that from time to time.

    for this game, they were way off. this game opened at -180/+170. that's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcoalbbq View Post
    The dude must have drank with someone and maybe he was hung over.....somebody knew somehing.....line dropped all the way from +170 mets to +125 mets and it happens to be arrieta's worst performance of teh season
    What happened was he faced the Mets lineup

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    guy was "due" to get rocked


    back to NFL thread now and Colts game...

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    Rocked is what he got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yeah we watched his last game.

    Even loserboy gets it.

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    It's 40 degrees. Balls don't move over the plate anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcoalbbq View Post
    The dude must have drank with someone and maybe he was hung over.....somebody knew somehing.....line dropped all the way from +170 mets to +125 mets and it happens to be arrieta's worst performance of teh season
    Or the fact maybe the fact that the line was -180!!

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    Opening line was -180? What?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcoalbbq View Post
    The dude must have drank with someone and maybe he was hung over.....somebody knew somehing.....line dropped all the way from +170 mets to +125 mets and it happens to be arrieta's worst performance of teh season
    If they would of come out with a line like -130 Cubs everyone would of jumped that. Syndergaard has been dominant at home all year. It was a no brainier to go with mets

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    It's 40 degrees. Balls don't move over the plate anymore.
    I would think that balls move better in cold air since the air is more dense.

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    Perhaps it's because everyone knows his arm is falling off. He's closing in on 100 innings MORE this year than his career high of 156. They could shut him down, but it wouldn't matter as he's not getting another start this season anyway.

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    And now im wondering if someone knows something about jacob degrom tomorrow


    -125 seems low

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    Quote Originally Posted by bferony View Post
    And now im wondering if someone knows something about jacob degrom tomorrow


    -125 seems low

    It's because he has pitched better at home all season.

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    Still he didnt pitch too badly last 2 in la

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    Quote Originally Posted by bferony View Post
    Still he didnt pitch too badly last 2 in la

    His second outing in L.A. was a pretty rough one for him. He limited the damage but had to get out of some sticky situations. Let's just say he didn't look like the DeGrom we are used to seeing. But either way great price for who he is facing.

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    He was telegraphing his pitches or Mets stole the signs. Yankees used to have a high powered camera looking at catcher's fingers and transmitting the plays to manager. That's why you see the manager grabbing his balls, pulling his ear lobs and itching his elbows before every pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    He was telegraphing his pitches or Mets stole the signs. Yankees used to have a high powered camera looking at catcher's fingers and transmitting the plays to manager. That's why you see the manager grabbing his balls, pulling his ear lobs and itching his elbows before every pitch.
    How would the batter have time to look over at him and receive the info? He would have to do it during the pitcher's windup.

    I think Arrieta is finally hitting a wall after a long season, or finally regressing to the mean, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves View Post
    How would the batter have time to look over at him and receive the info? He would have to do it during the pitcher's windup.

    I think Arrieta is finally hitting a wall after a long season, or finally regressing to the mean, nothing more.
    His velocity was clearly down last start, lowest since April. He was throwing 93/94 instead of 96/97. It was noticeable. He still has secondary pitches to adjust and be decent, but clearly he had a tired arm. Whether he can regain or adjust, maybe, but the innings are taking a toll at the wrong time. It's not regressing to the mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves View Post
    How would the batter have time to look over at him and receive the info? He would have to do it during the pitcher's windup.

    I think Arrieta is finally hitting a wall after a long season, or finally regressing to the mean, nothing more.
    He can look at the first base or third base coach from the corner of his eyes. There is at least 10 seconds between signaling by catcher and actual pitch throw. Usein Bolt can run the length of a football field in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    He can look at the first base or third base coach from the corner of his eyes. There is at least 10 seconds between signaling by catcher and actual pitch throw. Usein Bolt can run the length of a football field in that time.
    It's way less than 10 seconds, but I can see what you mean by looking at the base coach. Still can't see it happening that way.

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    That was about 1 second.

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    Steam on Cubs today. Maybe somebody knows something about deGrom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bferony View Post
    And now im wondering if someone knows something about jacob degrom tomorrow


    -125 seems low
    He has faced the Cubs twice this year: 0-2 ERA 6.10. 10 innings pitched, 12 hits, 8 runs, 3 HR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    He has faced the Cubs twice this year: 0-2 ERA 6.10. 10 innings pitched, 12 hits, 8 runs, 3 HR.
    Yeah, and Hendricks has fared well against Mets. And Mets a mediocre road team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briedward View Post
    I would think that balls move better in cold air since the air is more dense.
    using this logic would mean that a ball moving through water should move even better...

    because the ball is going through a more dense medium, it requires more energy to attain the same speed and movement as a ball thrown in warm air. Now you know!

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    No cespedes no conforto no daranoud no wright, but let's keep talking about the cubs season series against the mets. Also Jon niese pitched that gm

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Yeah, and Hendricks has fared well against Mets. And Mets a mediocre road team.
    Right. And what's DeGrom ever done on the road lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Yeah, and Hendricks has fared well against Mets. And Mets a mediocre road team.
    Mets had the 4th best road record in the NL, 8th best in the majors, and went 24-7 on the road to close out the regular season.

    They also broke the NL record for most consecutive road games with 3+ runs scored.

    I'll take that kind of 'mediocre' all day long.

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