If Manning doesnt win is he the most overrated QB ever?

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  • cruyff
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    • 08-09-08
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    #106
    I'm always amazed how people only rate how a player should stand up over time to the number of rings or championships they have won. I'll take career stats over trophy cabinet any day of the week.

    Take Ray Bourque. Played twenty-one classy years in Boston and didn't even get CLOSE to winning the Stanley Cup. Only in his forties did he move to a stacked Colorado team and play a small role that really didn't make much of a difference anyways. Does that mean Ray played his best year in Colorado? Or he'd be any worse a player if he had just retired in Boston? Hell no.
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    • t-wizzle
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      • 12-18-09
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      #107
      I've always had basically the same perspective of Manning as Lakerboy. I'm willing to concede that he is a phenomenal quarterback, but he needs to win this super bowl for me to consider him an all-time top 5 quarterback.
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      • blueheron1981
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        • 01-26-10
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        #108
        You bet you SBR points he will!!!!!!!!
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        • lakerboy
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          • 04-02-09
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          #109
          Originally posted by cruyff
          I'm always amazed how people only rate how a player should stand up over time to the number of rings or championships they have won. I'll take career stats over trophy cabinet any day of the week.

          Take Ray Bourque. Played twenty-one classy years in Boston and didn't even get CLOSE to winning the Stanley Cup. Only in his forties did he move to a stacked Colorado team and play a small role that really didn't make much of a difference anyways. Does that mean Ray played his best year in Colorado? Or he'd be any worse a player if he had just retired in Boston? Hell no.

          Ray Bourque was a significant part of that avs team- they never won again did they? His stats on that cup winning team were very good. Ray was a great defenseman but he wasnt a manning type of player who got all the accolades. Ray was solid and steady. Listen i know Manning is great but if he loses this game i feel it takes the lustre off a bit . People say the colts arent that great but they still are the favorite cause they have manning and now he needs to deliver and i think he will but hope he doesnt.
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          • DwightShrute
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            • 01-17-09
            • 103177

            #110
            Originally posted by cruyff
            I'm always amazed how people only rate how a player should stand up over time to the number of rings or championships they have won. I'll take career stats over trophy cabinet any day of the week.

            Take Ray Bourque. Played twenty-one classy years in Boston and didn't even get CLOSE to winning the Stanley Cup. Only in his forties did he move to a stacked Colorado team and play a small role that really didn't make much of a difference anyways. Does that mean Ray played his best year in Colorado? Or he'd be any worse a player if he had just retired in Boston? Hell no.


            that was nice of Boston to give him that opportunity and thankfully it worked out that he won a Cup
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            • seaborneq
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              • 09-08-06
              • 22556

              #111
              Peyton should have won more of the Pats-Colts games early in his career, and probably should have lost the big one that led to his only SB victory. Peyton is not overrated, but indeed is overhyped. When you listen to play by play announcers calling the game it is always Peyton made the right call, got them in the right play, read the defense correctly, etc. Now unless I have been under a rock, the receiver has to run the right route, the line still has to block, and the ball still has to be caught. Now on the other hand, when Peyton loses or fukks up, then it can't be the receiver ran the wrong route, the lineman picked up the wrong blitzer, the defense was superhuman. It has to be balanced. It reminds me of listening when Brett Favre is playing, just sickening. The same guy who will his teams to wins is also the same guy who is not good enough when the team loses.
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              • DOMINATER
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                • 12-10-09
                • 3698

                #112
                wow
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                • pavyracer
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                  • 04-12-07
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                  #113
                  Manning always fails on the big game except once. He lost twice in college and probably lose tonight.
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
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                    #114
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                    • krazey47409
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                      • 11-04-09
                      • 2431

                      #115
                      Manning is a ****ing joke so many weak and unaccurate throws tonight he aint shit played with marvin harrison his carrer one of best wr ever hes a good qb but best ever a ****ing joke dont ever wanna hear that shit again he couldnt even beat these bitch ass saints
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                      • PAULYPOKER
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                        • 12-06-08
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                        So now that the point is clear on what LB was trying to get across If Maninng loses he cannot be considered the greatest because of the fact of CHOKECITY!!! So therefore I concur with LB
                        This is why Manning is overrated case closed
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                        • lakerboy
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                          • 04-02-09
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                          #117
                          Where are all you Manning lovers
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                          • Tree Rollins
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                            • 12-16-09
                            • 3968

                            #118
                            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                            This is why Manning is overrated case closed
                            Will you give it a break man. Enough of the quoting people and capitalizing things in huge bold letters and changing the colors. I was on the Saints too, good for you and good for me. Please quit being so obnoxious. And congratulations.
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                            • PAULYPOKER
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                              • 12-06-08
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                              #119
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                              • aznxangel19
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                                • 11-25-09
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                                #120
                                peyton is the best QB in nfl football.
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                                • krazey47409
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                                  • 11-04-09
                                  • 2431

                                  #121
                                  carrer stats dont mean shit like mcnabb you have good stats dont mean nothing if you aint winning the chip you the qb of the team you most important valuable player if you cant win a chip your no where near best ever like dan marino no chip great stats no where near best ever caus he was not a champion all those stats he got dont mean shit he wasnt good enough to win a superbowl
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                                  • Tree Rollins
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                                    • 12-16-09
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                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    Where are all you Manning lovers
                                    Guy, i don't know who your favorite team is, but would you trade your starting QB for Peyton Manning? I'm pretty sure you would.
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                                    • ttwarrior1
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                                      • 06-23-09
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                                      #123
                                      i think its funny people act like manning is retiring and washed up now, lmao

                                      if drew brees doesn't win another superbowl is he overrated
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                                      • krazey47409
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                                        • 11-04-09
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                                        #124
                                        i wouldnt trade drew bress for manning
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                                        • PAULYPOKER
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                                          • 12-06-08
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                                          #125
                                          Now if it was Ben he would have tied the game and still have a chance to win
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                                          • lakerboy
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                                            • 04-02-09
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                                            #126
                                            Stop crying all you you manning riders he choked . He threw a pick to lose the game.Get off his dikk
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                                            • lakerboy
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                                              • 04-02-09
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                              Guy, i don't know who your favorite team is, but would you trade your starting QB for Peyton Manning? I'm pretty sure you would.

                                              LOL guy you are so upset i was right again
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                                              • Tree Rollins
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                                                • 12-16-09
                                                • 3968

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                Stop crying all you you manning riders he choked . He threw a pick to lose the game.Get off his dikk
                                                You should be happy now. Now you and Paulypoker can PM each other, exchange phone numbers, and phone sex the hell out of each other. You've both been waiting all day for it. Slurp Slurp.
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                                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                                  • 12-06-08
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                  Guy, i don't know who your favorite team is, but would you trade your starting QB for Peyton Manning? I'm pretty sure you would.
                                                  Hell no BIG BEN always gets it done when the pressure is on
                                                  stats does not mean shit
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                                                  • Tree Rollins
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                                                    • 12-16-09
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    LOL guy you are so upset i was right again
                                                    I bet on the Saints you dummy. Check my posts. Also had the saints as a super bowl winner at +1000 during the preseason, small bet, but i'll take it.
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                                                    • Tree Rollins
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                                                      • 12-16-09
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy


                                                      LOL guy you are so upset i was right again
                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                      Hell no BIG BEN always gets it done when the pressure is on
                                                      stats does not mean shit
                                                      Slurp slurp slurp slurp. You 2 need a room!
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                        I bet on the Saints you dummy. Check my posts. Also had the saints as a super bowl winner at +1000 during the preseason, small bet, but i'll take it.

                                                        Retard if you bet on saints why are you concerned with Manning? You used to come into my threads and be peacemaker and after you lost a couple riding me you got upset and called me names. Get a life bum - i am a winner- you are a follower
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                                                        • krazey47409
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                                                          • 11-04-09
                                                          • 2431

                                                          #133
                                                          this superbowl sucked **** both these teams
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                                                          • lakerboy
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                                                            • 04-02-09
                                                            • 94379

                                                            #134
                                                            Where all the Manning followers now. Montana would have won.
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                                                            • Tree Rollins
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                                                              • 12-16-09
                                                              • 3968

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy


                                                              Retard if you bet on saints why are you concerned with Manning? You used to come into my threads and be peacemaker and after you lost a couple riding me you got upset and called me names. Get a life bum - i am a winner- you are a follower

                                                              I always thought you were a clown. You're a good capper, and i'll never say otherwise, but you're a clown. So chill out slurpy.

                                                              and i never said you were stupid for taking the saints, i've always been on the saints. You're stupid for talking so much shit about manning. He's a good quarterback. Go to bed slurpy.
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                                                              • knnthlay
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                                                                • 01-24-10
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                                                                #136
                                                                he sucks! he isn't worth the dirt I walk on!!!!!!
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                                                                • krazey47409
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                                                                  • 11-04-09
                                                                  • 2431

                                                                  #137
                                                                  manning is a good qb why you think hes in superbowl hes one of nfls best but not best ever hellllllllll noooooooooooo
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                                                                  • Naz18
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                                                                    • 09-10-09
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    With all that talent around him he should have more then 1 sb ring, he is overrated.
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                                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                                      I always thought you were a clown. You're a good capper, and i'll never say otherwise, but you're a clown. So chill out slurpy.

                                                                      and i never said you were stupid for taking the saints, i've always been on the saints. You're stupid for talking so much shit about manning. He's a good quarterback. Go to bed slurpy.

                                                                      No your a clown for calling me slurpy- while you bet saints and rode mannings dikk. My point has been proven Mr Rollins- the guy lost after leading 10-0. That has only happened once before in bowl history.
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                                                                      • Tree Rollins
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                                                                        • 12-16-09
                                                                        • 3968

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy


                                                                        No your a clown for calling me slurpy- while you bet saints and rode mannings dikk. My point has been proven Mr Rollins- the guy lost after leading 10-0. That has only happened once before in bowl history.
                                                                        I never rode mannings dick. I just disagree with someone saying that Dallas Clark is the reason why Peyton Manning is a good Quarterback. Call pauly and leave me alone.
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