I created a model for MLB that is threatening to end the industry.

**HoleWrecker** · 07-11-25, 11:55 PM

Im way above 2.5%. It just seems that for whatever reason nobody is able to go through and get an accurate W-L and units won record for this thread. They keep breaking it down into segments and its starting to make me shake my head a bit.

That being said, its my responsibility to keep records. Chatgpt is a massive pile of shit when it comes to numbers and I didnt know that until recently. When I updated the record, its very close to accurate though.

**HoleWrecker** · 07-12-25, 01:22 AM

July 12, 2025

Tigers ML –127
Rangers/Astros First 5 Innings Under 3.5 (–125)
Angels First 5 Innings ML (–125)
Blue Jays ML –157

**OVAKUL** · 07-12-25, 03:35 PM

Have you been banned from every book 'in the industry' or are you just yapping

**pavyracer** · 07-12-25, 06:35 PM

Anyone that comes with a system needs to be posting his bets from the book so that the winnings or losses are documented. At the end of the day this is what matters. Did you cash out? Or did you lose your deposit?

**Optional** · 07-13-25, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Anyone that comes with a system needs to be posting his bets from the book so that the winnings or losses are documented. At the end of the day this is what matters. Did you cash out? Or did you lose your deposit?

He's open about using chatgpt to grade stuff. Definitely not the best or accurate way but he isn't pretending to be an accountant about it.

**louisvillekid** · 07-13-25, 04:50 AM

This is hot garbage.

6/5 SF -114 W,, LAD un 9.5 -109 L , Hou un 7.5 +100 L , Minn -186 L
6/6 SF +122 W
6/7 Hou un 7.5 -120 x2 (F/10inn 5-3) L
6/8 Phil un 7 -115 W , Minn -170 W
6/9 Cle un 8.5 +100 L
6/10 LAA -155 W (closing line was -175), SF -225 W
6/11 LAA -130 W (closing line was -150)
6/12 no play
6/13 NYM -159 L , KC -152 L
6/14 no play
6/15 KC -148 L , SF +1.5 (no line listed) W , LAD TT un 5 -148 Push
6/16 TB -120 W , Sea -166 L , Nats -165 L
6/17 SF -153 L
6/18 Tor -110 W
6/19 SF -168 W , NYM F5 un 4.5 -115 W
6/20 TB F5 un 4.5 -125 L , SF -120 L
6/21 Col ov 12 -110 L , Hou F5 un 4 +100 L
6/22 SF -150 W , LAD -220 W
6/23 ATL F5 -150 W , LAA +100 W
6/24 SF -170 L , NYY -153 L , Hou F5 un 3.5 +105 W
6/25 Minn F5 -130 Push , LAA F5 -140 W
6/26 Det ov 8.5 -120 L , Sea F5 +110 L
6/27 NYY -201 W , LAA F5 -175 W , TB F5 -130 L
6/28 Mil F5 -1/2 -145 L , Oak TT un 4.5 -210 L , CWS TT un 3.5 -135 W , Hou F5 ML -115 L
6/29 Tor F5 +1/2 -154 W , ATL F5 un 4.5 -160 W , Mil F5 -1/2 -134 L
6/30 Bos F5 -215 W , TB F5 un 4.5 -145 L , Ari TT un 4.5 -195 W
7/1 SD un 9 -158 PPD , STL F5 TT un 1.5 -166 W , Bal TT un 3.5 -145 W
7/2 LAA F5 -110 W , Mil F5 -175 L , TX -135 W
7/3 SF -114 W
7/4 Bal F5 un 5.5 -180 W , CHC TT ov 4.5 -140 W
7/5 Oak TT un 4.5 -190 W , LAD F5 un 4.5 -125 L , SF F5 -200 W
7/6 Mil F5 un 4.5 -130 W , Col ov 11 -110 L
7/7 LAA F5 un 4.5 L
7/8 , 7/9 no plays
7/10 Sea F5 ML -160 W , ATl ML -182 L , TB F5 ML -115 W
7/11 Det F5 un 3.5 -130 L , Pitt F5 un 3.5 -140 W , SF F5 un 4.5 -166 L
7/12 Det ML -127 L , Hou F5 un 3.5 -125 W , LAA F5 ML -125 W , Tor -157 L

41-33-2 + 1 PPD

Avg juice -143

total -665 (based on 100 wager)

need to win at about 58.85% to break even at avg plays of -143

41-33 = 55%

**Optional** · 07-13-25, 07:55 AM

Nice to see your face LK

**HoleWrecker** · 07-13-25, 12:55 PM

7-13-2025

Astros/Rangers F5 under 3.5 -125

**HoleWrecker** · 07-13-25, 12:56 PM

Theres no way in hell this thread is down over 6 units.

**Foosball Champ** · 07-13-25, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by HoleWrecker

Theres no way in hell this thread is down over 6 units.

you're correct its down over 10 units

**HoleWrecker** · 07-13-25, 05:31 PM

No you guys are clowns. Im not even down units at all. Just a bunch of disgruntled losing bettors lookin to talk shit here.

**HoleWrecker** · 07-13-25, 05:40 PM

When I updated my record, if it was off, it was by maybe 1 unit or so. Why are you idiots claiming all this outrageous shit?

**Optional** · 07-13-25, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by HoleWrecker

When I updated my record, if it was off, it was by maybe 1 unit or so. Why are you idiots claiming all this outrageous shit?

Keep an accurate record and you wont have the problem?

As it is what can you say? You claiming it is winning holds about as much water as Foosball saying its down 10 units right now.

Dont keep a record at all and just share picks day to day is another way to avoid this stuff.

But just start keeping a proper record from now on if you really care about shutting them up.

The only thing you shouldn't do is argue with them. Just gives them an excuse to make more posts.

**HoleWrecker** · 07-13-25, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Keep an accurate record and you wont have the problem?

As it is what can you say? You claiming it is winning holds about as much water as Foosball saying its down 10 units right now.

Dont keep a record at all and just share picks day to day is another way to avoid this stuff.

But just start keeping a proper record from now on if you really care about shutting them up.

The only thing you shouldn't do is argue with them. Just gives them an excuse to make more posts.

Im nowhere near what they are claiming. It makes no sense. Whats the point of falsifying my record for way worse than what it really is?

**Optional** · 2025-07-14T12:51:44+00:00

Originally posted by HoleWrecker

Im nowhere near what they are claiming. It makes no sense. Whats the point of falsifying my record for way worse than what it really is?

Because that is what people tend to do when you claim a winning system and only offer fuzzy record keeping. Seen it over and again during the years.

The power is in your hands to shut them up if you want. Or to ignore them.

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T13:27:07+00:00

These dudes are complete losers. Thats a disgraceful way for a grown man to act. I was off by one unit so he creates a table claiming a ton of bets that were wins are losses, got it.

Forgive me if I find this schoolgirl type behavior indefensibly retarded.

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T13:28:27+00:00

Ill go through and update the record and make sure its completely accurate during this All Star break.

**EnTaroTuna** · 2025-07-14T14:25:48+00:00

I got the exact same results as LouisvilleKid, spreadsheet attached. Feel free to let us know if we got anything wrong, but now the results have been double checked. I didn't just claim your wins were losses, I linked them to the game results in baseball-reference.com for verification. To be fair, I did also say you had listed a loss that was actually a win and gave you credit for that one (very first one).

With yesterday's loss, record comes to 41-34-3, 7.88 units lost, ROI of -6.91%.

If you're going to claim your model is going to end the industry, then you better have verifiable proof. Not having accurate record keeping tells us that the original signal you found was probably false signal due to improper grading of bets, and probably not on purpose. I don't think you made up data for a signal, that's why I asked what you used to grade your bets and that you should look into it. I've made mistakes myself, I wrote code to grade bets and then acted on my algorithm but later found out that I was grading spreads and Asian bets improperly so I had to revisit that code multiple times. It still might not be perfect, but I'm open to that possibility.

It's easy to backtest a strategy and find something really strong, only to find out that it doesn't pan out going forward due to overfitting. I've probably gone through 20-30 different strategies at this point where backtesting showed huge ROIs but once I actually bet on them, they proved to be negative ROI.

Also, who are you trying to prove this strategy to? If it's actually threatening to end the industry, keep that to yourself and go make millions. The more you try to defend yourself, the less credibility you have.

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**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T19:19:07+00:00

This is not possible. When I uploaded my record I was +double digit units or so. Theres no chance in hell that I lost 17 units since then its not even close.

And what is "keeo it to yourself" supposed to mean? So I won't be able to place the same bets anymore because I posted them online, thats what your saying?

When I go to place my wager the sportsbook is gonna be like" No sorry we can't take that bet because too many people online from sbr already hammered it"?

No dude. I seriously doubt anyone here is gonna move all the lines at the books. Thats a laugable take.

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T19:30:21+00:00

Since June 5 until now

49-25 +7.25 Units

What is wrong with you people?

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T19:30:51+00:00

zsbr might be a group of the biggest dumbasses Ive ever seen

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T19:31:39+00:00

I shouldnt say all of you. Some of you are cool.

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-14T19:36:41+00:00

correction

49-26 +5.48 Units

**mjsuax13** · 2025-07-15T02:37:15+00:00

This thread should be salooned here soon.

**HoleWrecker** · 2025-07-15T04:50:19+00:00

75 picks and a winning record and lets saloon it. No wonder this site is dying.