Eric Bieniemy

[mjsuax13]

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers? I watch NFL every Sunday and routinely see defenses with zero or 1 white guy

In 2021, about 71 percent of the players in the NFL were people of color (that is, a race other than white), while only a quarter were white, according to the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida. The races of the other 4 percent weren't disclosed or specified.

I don’t disagree with what you see on TV but these numbers are posted on Washington Examiner, Statista, NFL.com, etc… I think they phrased it wrong. 57.5% black, 71% considered people of “color” which has grey area assigned to it. You can be a multitude of shades and consider yourself a person of color. Either way- what’s the appropriate ratio? That is what we are talking about.

[mjsuax13]

First, the numbers. Despite that about 60 percent of the players in the NFL are African American, only 3 of the current 32 head coaches (9 percent) are African American. It has been like this for a while. Art Shell was named the head coach of the Los Angeles Raiders in 1989.Sep 29, 2022

So, is the ratio 1-1 you are suggesting? I think it needs to be a meritocracy and not a number based on some quota. The larger issue in my mind is why do losers keep getting rehired? That seems to be the issue across all major sports. I guess going .500 or only losing 60% of the games is what franchises want.

[mjsuax13]

same old shit on SBR. I get tired of woke, etc too, but take your blinders off and look at reality. Frank Reich took 7 Pro-Bowlers and drove that shit over a cliff and now they have the #4 pick, but gets rehired in 2 seconds over a black guy that did a solid job as an interim and was well liked.

White stiffs get recycled nonstop, but a black guy with a handful of rings has to take a lateral job. Thats reality

Frank Reich is the poster child for WTF. He’s awful. He will bury the Panthers further. I think the owner is a delusional clown with money falling out of his pockets.

[homie1975]

So, is the ratio 1-1 you are suggesting? I think it needs to be a meritocracy and not a number based on some quota. The larger issue in my mind is why do losers keep getting rehired? That seems to be the issue across all major sports. I guess going .500 or only losing 60% of the games is what franchises want.

meritocracy for coaches LOL

it is a JUDGEMENT call which OC's and DC's and asst coaches will get jobs.

LOL

[homie1975]

same old shit on SBR. I get tired of woke, etc too, but take your blinders off and look at reality. Frank Reich took 7 Pro-Bowlers and drove that shit over a cliff and now they have the #4 pick, but gets rehired in 2 seconds over a black guy that did a solid job as an interim and was well liked.

White stiffs get recycled nonstop, but a black guy with a handful of rings has to take a lateral job. Thats reality

Bingo

close thread.

[mjsuax13]

meritocracy for coaches LOL

it is a JUDGEMENT call which OC's and DC's and asst coaches will get jobs.

LOL

The decision to hire is judgement but so is choosing between 2 QB’s. They all certainly have credentials/merit to get consideration.
I wouldn’t hire the guy with the generational QB under a proven HC either. How has that worked in the past?

[batt33]

only your last line containing 2001, happened in the last 30 years.

nice try.

watch this 1 minute vid about the legal violations in our Congress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqCkuIIvaQ

Did you read what I first wrote?
"How about this scenario..... based on the " woke" crowd going through past history from years ago...( which is BS IMHO) and organizations cowering down". Yes they did happen a while back... but the "woke" crowd doesn't care..... More of a reality than you think.
Nice try homie...

[Goat Milk]

same old shit on SBR. I get tired of woke, etc too, but take your blinders off and look at reality. Frank Reich took 7 Pro-Bowlers and drove that shit over a cliff and now they have the #4 pick, but gets rehired in 2 seconds over a black guy that did a solid job as an interim and was well liked.

White stiffs get recycled nonstop, but a black guy with a handful of rings has to take a lateral job. Thats reality

Fair point. The funny part about these stories is this though.

If he's not hired as a HC, he's passed over because he's black. But if he is hired as a HC and fails, then people say "well, yeah, that was obvious, he was just a product of Andy Reid and Mahomes." Just like Josh McDaniels is proving to be. So which is it? If team owners/gms have the forsight to predict that he'll fail (not saying he will, just hypothetically), then why should they be punished for that and be unfairly called "racists?"

In fact, why should they even give anyone for that matter a chance at any position, head coach or not, if they expect them to fail?

[batt33]

Fair point. The funny part about these stories is this though.

If he's not hired as a HC, he's passed over because he's black. But if he is hired as a HC and fails, then people say "well, yeah, that was obvious, he was just a product of Andy Reid and Mahomes." Just like Josh McDaniels is proving to be. So which is it? If team owners/gms have the forsight to predict that he'll fail (not saying he will, just hypothetically), then why should they be punished for that and be unfairly called "racists?"

In fact, why should they even give anyone for that matter a chance at any position, head coach or not, if they expect them to fail?

Goat... racist ... keep trying to stoke the flames.... while we have grown up.... They have not...unfortunately racism will never end until they realize that people need to be judged on the merits and not their color. yep in a capitalist society .... the owners make decisions .... uhm homie was Tiger woods a token?

[batt33]

yes, keep believing "the tokens" are enough.

numbers do not lie.

learn ratios and proportions, then come find me.

again was tiger a "token" in golf????????? yeah figured as much grow up homie... quit being a racist....

[lakerboy]

Too much noise. Guy is a terrible communicator. KC won't miss a beat just like they didn't miss a beat when Tyreke Hill left.

[batt33]

yeah homie go back to your hole... people of my generations have nothing to do with the past.... ever been in a f uped postion???? well I have been, chasing fire. wildland fire.. my brothers and sisters.... didn't give a F about my color or gender identity... neither did I... they have my back I have theirs.... get the point? live for now trust ....Hope you do.... oh yeah watched people being promoted or cherry picked because of their color or gender( gender yeah there are only 2 scientific fact X Y chromosomes look it up...) hint wasn't a white male...... talk about being discriminated against.... yeah you lost......

[batt33]

Ricky Stenhouse JR celebrating the daytona 500 with his team mates... oh wait there were people "of color" were they tokens Homie? just asking?

[homie1975]

Goat... racist ... keep trying to stoke the flames.... while we have grown up.... They have not...unfortunately racism will never end until they realize that people need to be judged on the merits and not their color. yep in a capitalist society .... the owners make decisions .... uhm homie was Tiger woods a token?

you are not educated much.

Tiger did not get "hired". He worked his way to being one of the best golfers in history. no hiring necessary.

same with michael jordan, etc.

not hired - supremely talented.

"old boy" whiteboy network alive and well, which is why The Rooney Rule was created.

now excuse me while i down another glass of $100 wine in my posh home in Southern CA.

go back to your own hole, Redneck.

[kingdom]

I don't believe that. There is something about Bienemy that rubs people the wrong way, and it isn't that he is black. Whether it's arrogance, doesn't interview well etc there is something about him or he would have had a shot by now. Meanwhile Demeco Ryans(a black man last I checked), was hired by the Texans after numerous teams were after him.

This has everything to do with bienemy the man and nothing to do with his color.

to be fair, black defensive coaches are hired all the time. denny green is one of the few offensive coaches i remember being hired. the pats had the shittiest assistants get head coaches time and again because of bill. you'd have to be an idiot to assume bienemy hasn't learned anything under reid all these years. to leave for another oc position was dumb. reid doesn't have much left in the tank. he probably would have got one year with mahomes at least after reid. washington is a shit run franchise. i can't imagine this coming up roses.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

to be fair, black defensive coaches are hired all the time. denny green is one of the few offensive coaches i remember being hired. the pats had the shittiest assistants get head coaches time and again because of bill. you'd have to be an idiot to assume bienemy hasn't learned anything under reid all these years. to leave for another oc position was dumb. reid doesn't have much left in the tank. he probably would have got one year with mahomes at least after reid. washington is a shit run franchise. i can't imagine this coming up roses.

According to Lesean McCoy and some other ex players, they do not like the way Bienemy interacts with the players.

I recall a Chiefs regular season game the past 2-3 years where Bienemy and Mahomes got into a pretty heated argument on the sidelines about the play calling or lack of trying to run plays going into the half. That type of thing is not uncommon during games but Bienemy has always come off to me as smug and arrogant. He doesn't seem to have people skills or be a leader of men or the type of person you want to give the keys to the franchise.

Should he have had a chance by now? Probably and most certainly given what happened with pederson and Nagy. My read is that this has nothing to do with his skin pigmentation, there is something about him personally, his character, the way he treats people etc.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I'll weigh in with:
*Bieniemy not being a good coach.

1) Mahomes viewed him as more of a distraction.
...Great players don't want encumbrances on their greatness.

2) How many interviews did this guy need?
...Teams wanted to give him the Head job. He didn't present himself well in interviews.

3) He will eventually be a Head Coach.
...Will be looking forward to that day. Chance to fade him.

[mcaulay777]

People do not want to be told what to do especially billionaires! The owners know what the media are saying. The Media will not be happy until the Nba and Nfl is 100% percent African American or people of color as coaches.So the owners are f u will just keep hiring white coaches for spite! i maybe way off but that whats it looks like form the outside!

[mjsuax13]

Not even sure why this thread went sideways with all this. Again, why the fukk did he take that job?

[mjsuax13]

you are not educated much.

Tiger did not get "hired". He worked his way to being one of the best golfers in history. no hiring necessary.

same with michael jordan, etc.

not hired - supremely talented.

"old boy" whiteboy network alive and well, which is why The Rooney Rule was created.

now excuse me while i down another glass of $100 wine in my posh home in Southern CA.

go back to your own hole, Redneck.

I have an idea. Drink less $100 glasses of wine, sell the “posh” home in SoCal and buy 1% of a team and fix it.

[lakerboy]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/21/lesean-mccoy-im-rooting-for-eric-bieniemy-but-he-had-nothing-to-do-with-chiefs-pass-game/

[mjsuax13]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...efs-pass-game/

I watched it. You know the chiefs players will start chirping soon

[stevenash]

Redskins should have gone hard for Kafka.
Thank God he's returning to New York.

[budwiser]

If he was the genius for the Chiefs passing game, he would have been picked up long ago.

That's what I believe, cause none of his actual role will be made public.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

If he was the genius for the Chiefs passing game, he would have been picked up long ago.

That's what I believe, cause none of his actual role will be made public.

[mjsuax13]

If he was the genius for the Chiefs passing game, he would have been picked up long ago.

That's what I believe, cause none of his actual role will be made public.

Huh? He’s not a genius? He’s the Architect of Arrowhead!

[lakerboy]

He is as much of a genius as Romeo Crennel was in new england.

[mjsuax13]

He is as much of a genius as Romeo Crennel was in new england.

Romeo really took flight in Cleveland.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Romeo really took flight in Cleveland.

He weighed too much to ever take off.

[lakerboy]

He weighed too much to ever take off.

Don't be RACIST man. It was climate change that caused his inflation.

[batt33]

you are not educated much.

Tiger did not get "hired". He worked his way to being one of the best golfers in history. no hiring necessary.

same with michael jordan, etc.

not hired - supremely talented.

"old boy" whiteboy network alive and well, which is why The Rooney Rule was created.

now excuse me while i down another glass of $100 wine in my posh home in Southern CA.

go back to your own hole, Redneck.

Dude FYI you way overpaid for your mad dog

[Nate rasta]

Dude FYI you way overpaid for your mad dog

I hope you have no hard feelings against me batman. I went off my rocker,it was my bet of the year on 9ers nfc.could of bank rolled me for the rest of the year.i seen 209's thread playfully mocking me,I was seeing red and I flipped out. My apologies towards you. We all come from different walks of life. Lets forward together and spread righteous vibes to the world

[batt33]

I hope you have no hard feelings against me batman. I went off my rocker,it was my bet of the year on 9ers nfc.could of bank rolled me for the rest of the year.i seen 209's thread playfully mocking me,I was seeing red and I flipped out. My apologies towards you. We all come from different walks of life. Lets forward together and spread righteous vibes to the world

No worries mate! cant even recall an issue with you.... meh 209 isn't even in the right area code for fresno state( his so called avatar)... what does he know

[ray499]

Domestic violence allegations probably don’t help

[homie1975]

Domestic violence allegations probably don’t help

get edified, Son

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/15/us/politics/republicans-accusations-women.html