Does Purdue "deserve" a #1 seed in the dance?

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  • stevenash
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    #36
    Right now, just going on the past 10 days/2 weeks, UConn is playing national championship caliber ball.

    The two monster white pivot men, Clingan and Karaban are playing like the Mailman and Shaq, then there's the other beast Sanogo, Jordan Hawkins is shooting lights out and is an All American guard, factor in Newton, Johnny 'California' off the bench and his unlimited range, and a HC Hurley who rarely makes coaching mistakes...

    Hmmm,
    All America PG play, monster rebounders, three of them, that lead the NCAA in team rebounding, and a smart HC.
    Sounds like a recipe for a deep March run.
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    • stevenash
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      #37
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      • d2bets
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        #38
        Originally posted by stevenash
        Right now, just going on the past 10 days/2 weeks, UConn is playing national championship caliber ball.

        The two monster white pivot men, Clingan and Karaban are playing like the Mailman and Shaq, then there's the other beast Sanogo, Jordan Hawkins is shooting lights out and is an All American guard, factor in Newton, Johnny 'California' off the bench and his unlimited range, and a HC Hurley who rarely makes coaching mistakes...

        Hmmm,
        All America PG play, monster rebounders, three of them, that lead the NCAA in team rebounding, and a smart HC.
        Sounds like a recipe for a deep March run.
        We know you're a U Conn fan. Grain of salt.
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        • stake1
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          #39
          Originally posted by unde0087
          It is the same Purdue as always. They always have a 9 footer, who is uncoordinated, surrounding a bunch of 3 point shooters. The Big 10 is dog shit this year which made them look better for most of the season. Painter is always good for an early exit from the dance because his team is Average Joes, like the last 15 years.
          when edey gets into early foul trouble in the big ten tournament, and then the big dance? will be "big problems" for painter. I just hope they get a #1 and will see inflated lines, and solid opp's to fade them A-T-S
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          • stake1
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            #40
            Originally posted by stevenash
            Lunardi has them as a #4 seed in the East. I would love to see Uconn vs Purdue. would bet Uconn every which way possible


            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/Nu4S2UN52b">pic.twitter.com/Nu4S2UN52b</a></p>&mdash; Joe Lunardi (@ESPNLunardi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1630308193229217793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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            • johnnyvegas13
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              #41
              I guess if Purdue wins last two gms they have a one seed
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              • stake1
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                #42
                Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                I guess if Purdue wins last two gms they have a one seed
                What if they lose their first game in the big ten tournament? I hope they get the one and it’s in the east like lunardi projects
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by stake1
                  What if they lose their first game in the big ten tournament? I hope they get the one and it’s in the east like lunardi projects
                  They prob need to at least make the semis to b safe
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                  • stake1
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                    They prob need to at least make the semis to b safe
                    Updated projections from Lunardi. Purdue hanging on as last #1 seed, but UCLA right on their heels


                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/aNem7QR34V">pic.twitter.com/aNem7QR34V</a></p>&mdash; Joe Lunardi (@ESPNLunardi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1630946912940572673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >March 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                    • johnnyvegas13
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                      #45
                      Purdue holding on

                      ucla ready to take if anyone slips up
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                      • navyblue81
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                        #46
                        Lol anyone who thinks this Purdue team is even a No 2 seed is drunk. They are on the verge of blowing a 20-pt home lead to unranked Illinois.
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                        • johnnyvegas13
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                          #47
                          Not look good for UCLA Clark

                          should keep them out of 1 seed
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                          • Snowball
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                            #48
                            This is a very weak year overall.
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                            • johnnyvegas13
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by Snowball
                              This is a very weak year overall.
                              We say this every yr
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                              • Snowball
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                We say this every yr
                                cuz its true until it ain't.
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                                • johnnyvegas13
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                  cuz its true until it ain't.
                                  1 seed has won last 5 tourney

                                  thinking that continues here
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                    1 seed has won last 5 tourney

                                    thinking that continues here
                                    Houston prob the best team
                                    but they gotta do it
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by navyblue81
                                      Lol anyone who thinks this Purdue team is even a No 2 seed is drunk. They are on the verge of blowing a 20-pt home lead to unranked Illinois.
                                      Well Illinois beat both Texas and UCLA either road or neutral. So are they disqualified too? You can play that game with every team.
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                                      • johnnyvegas13
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                                        #54
                                        Purdue taking back one seed in a lot of mocks

                                        they prob just need to win today
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                                        • kidcudi92
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                                          #55
                                          After getting rolled by IU twice I don’t think so even if they win the big 10 tourney, I could see another IU vs Purdue match up in the tourney tbh
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                                          • Darkside Magick
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                                            #56
                                            ​Rutgers +258 vs Purdure
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                                            • Slow Fanta
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                                              #57
                                              Uconn is winning it all this year broskis, no one is as deep and complete and battle tested
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                #58
                                                The way I see it, as of right now, one hour before quarter final action kicks off today.

                                                Houston is a lock for a #1 seed.

                                                The fact that they play in a mid major conference (American) should not and will not be an issue.

                                                Houston is 17-1 in league play (American) 29-2 overall.
                                                Houston lost to a top ten Alabama by five points, and lost to conference foe Temple by a point.
                                                That's it.

                                                No disrespect to Gonzaga and St. Mary's, Houston had the better season, and Houston knocked off St. Mary's earlier in the year.

                                                Most of you all lean on the Pomeroy metrics, I lean on the Sagarin metrics, both are the two best at what they do, they both say the AAC and WCC were good, but AAC was slightly better.

                                                What happens to UCLA if top ten Arizona should beat them for the PAC 12 championship?
                                                If UCLA doesn't win out, they have no case for a top line.

                                                What happens to Alabama if they should lost to Tennessee or Missouri if the winner of that game wins the SEC?

                                                I'm conceding a top line to Houston.

                                                If Marquette wins the Big East Tournament beating UConn later tonight and beats the winner of the Xavier/Creighton game later tonight, then Marquette should get a top line #1 seed too.

                                                If Kansas beats the winner of the Texas/TCU game later, providing they get past ISU later than I reward Kansas the other #1 top line seed.

                                                Houston is in.

                                                If UCLA wins the PAC 12 conference tournament, they earn a top line #1 seed.
                                                If Kansas wins the Big 12 tournament, they earn a top line #1 seed.
                                                If Marquette wins the Big East tournament, they earn a top line #1 seed. In my opinion.

                                                The Big East and the Big 12 winners should be awarded the top seed along with Houston, providing it's Marquette and Kansas.

                                                Why?
                                                The Big 12 is clearly the elite conference in the nation, followed by The Big East.
                                                And if Alabama win the SEC tournament, they get the other top seed.

                                                Purdue, in my opinion to get a top line #1, once again, just my opinion, this must happen.
                                                UCLA, Alabama, Marquette, and Kansas all must lose.

                                                And if Kansas loses to Texas, and Purdue wins out, I can make a very strong case for Texas as I think they too are better than Purdue.
                                                Last edited by stevenash; 03-10-23, 01:25 PM.
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                                                • johnnyvegas13
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                                                  #59
                                                  Nash the one thing u mention is UCLA Clark injury

                                                  committe will take that in
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                                                  • Art Vandelay
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Slow Fanta
                                                    Uconn is winning it all this year broskis, no one is as deep and complete and battle tested
                                                    I'm a huge Marquette fan but I'm on UConn today. Should win the Big East tourney - As for the Big Dance, we shall see...
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                                                    • homie1975
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                                                      #61
                                                      it is too early to say.

                                                      check back on Sunday at 5:30 pm when all of the tournament champ games are complete.

                                                      then we can tell you.

                                                      maybe against this field, they are deserving of a #1 seed.

                                                      question: prior to Painter taking over the HC spot in 2005, and since that time taking them to 5 Sweet 16's and One Elite 8, when was Purdue last relevant in hoops?

                                                      Under Gene Keady?

                                                      he coached for 100 years it seems and had 3 Sweet 16's and 2 Elite 8's.

                                                      (0) final 4's

                                                      Painter is simply Keady 2.0

                                                      best thing that ever happened to Purdue sports was JOE TILLER who took that football team to the Rose Bowl and recruited Drew Brees to that school before that.

                                                      RIP Joe.
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                                                      • stevenash
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                        Nash the one thing u mention is UCLA Clark injury

                                                        committe will take that in
                                                        Injuries are not part of the mathematical equation the committee uses to determine who is in, and who is out, and what seed a team is awarded.
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                                                        • homie1975
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Injuries are not part of the mathematical equation the committee uses to determine who is in, and who is out, and what seed a team is awarded.
                                                          they do actually factor it in but can still award the team a seed they believe is deserving on body of work.

                                                          see Kenyon Martin seeding for Cincinnati in 2000 right before tourney.

                                                          see Syracuse 2012 when their big man got hurt or suspended right before tourney.
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                                                          • johnnyvegas13
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Injuries are not part of the mathematical equation the committee uses to determine who is in, and who is out, and what seed a team is awarded.
                                                            Ya they do Nash

                                                            Houston last year ...
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                                                            • stevenash
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                                              they do actually factor it in but can still award the team a seed they believe is deserving on body of work.

                                                              see Kenyon Martin seeding for Cincinnati in 2000 right before tourney.

                                                              see Syracuse 2012 when their big man got hurt or suspended right before tourney.
                                                              I stand corrected, thanks for that.
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                                                              • homie1975
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                                Ya they do Nash

                                                                Houston last year ...
                                                                and Houston lost their 2 key guards well well in advance of March, I am talking like January when they lost those 2 guys.
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                                                                • stevenash
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Nothing would make me happier if those Jersey boys out of Fairly Ridiculous University knocked off Purdue this Friday.

                                                                  Well, if Carrie Underwood were to go down on me and administer mind numbing skull, that would make me happier, but that's pretty much it.
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    Nothing would make me happier if those Jersey boys out of Fairly Ridiculous University knocked off Purdue this Friday.

                                                                    Well, if Carrie Underwood were to go down on me and administer mind numbing skull, that would make me happier, but that's pretty much it.
                                                                    Yeah, that ain't happening until Round 2. Memphis or FAU. Either way Purdue goes down.
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                                                                    • Headsterx
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                      Nothing would make me happier if those Jersey boys out of Fairly Ridiculous University knocked off Purdue this Friday.

                                                                      Well, if Carrie Underwood were to go down on me and administer mind numbing skull, that would make me happier, but that's pretty much it.
                                                                      😂😂😂
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Purdue will be just -3.5 to 4.5 in the 2nd round.
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