What is the best odds for Blackjack?

[TommieGunshot]

Best I've ever seen was under 0.2% house edge at Barona, single deck game with LS. Beatable with a 2-1 spread.

Best in Las Vegas has usually been under 0.5% house edge with ES. But I like the lower levels and usually just call everything 0.66% house edge. Probably a little better than that, but shitty penetration.

[Nate rasta]

Harrahs buffet is top notch

[Otters27]

Play one hand or multiple hands?

[Mac4Lyfe]

As long as dealer has a 8 or lower

Incorrect. You always double on ten unless facing a ten.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Surrender, Double after split. Stand on soft 17? Double at anytime and split any two face cards

Are you asking about blackjack basic rules or actual odds at different shops?

[Otters27]

Are you asking about blackjack basic rules or actual odds at different shops?

Odds at different shops.

Just played lost 7 in a row then lost $200 at $10 a hand too easily. Guy never busted always had a face showing

[Mac4Lyfe]

Play one hand or multiple hands?

I consistently win at Blackjack. Single deck, double deck, 6, 7, 8 deck shoes. As long as it's not a stupid continuous shuffle. Cards are never completely shuffled, I am very good at remembering card orders and card counts. Blackjack is all about timing. Increase your bet when the deck gets better, decrease when it's not favorable. You can't always play by the book. Play by the flow of the cards. You have to win the double downs, splits doubles, etc. I like to play 2 or 3 hands, so that I can see more cards.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Odds at different shops
Just played lost 7 in a row then lost $200 at $10 a hand too easily. Guy never busted always had a face showing

It's becoming harder and harder to find places with favorable odds on the strip or around the US. It sucks. 6/5 blackjack bullshit, dealer hitting soft 17, continuous shuffle shit. I was in Canada a couple months ago and you don't even sit at the same table. The dealer is on one corner of the room and you sit in a chair by yourself on a video screen watching him deal by video. WTF is that shit?

[Otters27]

There's no way nitro not rigged

[Otters27]

It makes sense you can't expect to win. I may never play again .

Rotten game. Hit s the dopamine too hard.

[sweethook]

the best play is to move to the baccarat game its beatable .. gl

[OldBill]

when play lower limit BJ your going to lose because other players are going to hit and take away that 10 or face card you need to possibly win i havent played BJ since way back in 80's GOT lucky 1 time guy i was working worth loaned me $100 to play it we found a players table every dealer kept breaking and i was able to pay him back his $100 and go off to crap game and won $200 more.

That was it 1 time... and get this was with my best friend years later stying over at Cesars we cracked the craps table he won 1000's i won like $800 he goes to bj table but was stoned out of mind and got lucky winning thousands BOOM hauled into back room i go in to back him up at first the guard would not let me in and i said we are togther i want to speak for him.

They let me in i said listen cant you see he is high and barely able to talk we won on craps table then as his luck would have he won more at your BJ table HE cannot count cards only plays basic strategy and his lucky star helps

OF course he is playing heads up with delaer so he is not affected by other players. They agreed and let him go saying he can play any other game but not BJ well he was going by by next day because of that and we hopped over to diffent casino for reast of weekend

this was in the 80's around 84 ...

dying for real time poker to start ... so im like now strickly craps and slots and ponies theres my strengths think about this 10 races and you have only $50 neeed to buy program or the now expensive $9 form for the thouro bred which i hate because you only get maybe last 6 races of each horse ........SO i use the harness program that gives me more results and do better.


Same price as when it started $2 to win hey wtf if you lose it all you had fun for few hours

[TommieGunshot]

And there are multiple ways to count, including tracking 5's or low, medium, and high cards that have been spent; and others.

A hi-lo count is always going to provide the foundation and fundamentals for any blackjack play. Anything weaker makes no sense, because it just gives up value without really being any easier. Anything stronger is going to require a lot of effort for minimal gain. I think only very strong, experienced, and bored players should bother with halves or KO or any of that other stuff.

Multiple decks erode everything, basically.

Completely not true.

[TommieGunshot]

when play lower limit BJ your going to lose because other players are going to hit and take away that 10 or face card you need to possibly win

If you knew what card the other players were going to take, that becomes a huge edge in your favor. If you know the next card a player takes is going to be a 10, then you can stand on any stiff hand and very often win hands you would have lost.

If you don't know the card the other players are going to take, then it will be a card that would have made the dealers hand just as often as it would have busted the dealers hand.

[biggie12]

Lake Tahoe

One table, single deck, 3/2 blackjack, high limit tables, taking all comers in Harrahs. Nearly always open.

They are challenging the counters.

lol

good luck..... Sucker born every minute.

[TommieGunshot]

It's becoming harder and harder to find places with favorable odds on the strip or around the US. It sucks. 6/5 blackjack bullshit, dealer hitting soft 17, continuous shuffle shit. I was in Canada a couple months ago and you don't even sit at the same table. The dealer is on one corner of the room and you sit in a chair by yourself on a video screen watching him deal by video. WTF is that shit?

The Las Vegas valley is over 400 square miles. Las Vegas Blvd. from Trop to Sahara is like three miles. It is very easy to find lots of low limit beatable blackjack games travelling just a few blocks or a few miles away from the strip.

It is weird how there is this idea that winning at blackjack should be done in luxury with scouting and no other effort other than robotically adding and subtracting by one.

[biggie12]

It's becoming harder and harder to find places with favorable odds on the strip or around the US. It sucks. 6/5 blackjack bullshit, dealer hitting soft 17, continuous shuffle shit. I was in Canada a couple months ago and you don't even sit at the same table. The dealer is on one corner of the room and you sit in a chair by yourself on a video screen watching him deal by video. WTF is that shit?

u went to pickering casino when u were here?

[biggie12]

A hi-lo count is always going to provide the foundation and fundamentals for any blackjack play. Anything weaker makes no sense, because it just gives up value without really being any easier. Anything stronger is going to require a lot of effort for minimal gain. I think only very strong, experienced, and bored players should bother with halves or KO or any of that other stuff.

Completely not true.

the more decks the better kvb.....At the same time nowadays it does not make a difference. For 8 deck games they are cutting out 2.25-2.5 decks which is garbage penetration and u can not get the proper edge u need to beat them game.

Back when i was using a 3 point count system and playing 8 deck shoes they would cut out max 1.5 decks.

You can back count and gain a tiny edge but tbh its not worth the time.

[KVB]

...Completely not true.

the more decks the better kvb....

Yeah, I get that. You are right.

I was more referring to some of the simple count systems, for which the shoe became risk management.

Sort of had my mind on some basic counts for this thread and those posts.

[Mac4Lyfe]

u went to pickering casino when u were here?

Yep, I went to a couple in Niagara Falls and Pickering outside Toronto. They all are connected I think. WTH is that about? I thought maybe they did it because of Covid but a couple dealers said they moved to those tables before Covid. That way 1 dealer can deal to multiple people at different sites. That was crazy. The odds were good on those tables but damn it felt like playing video poker. I just could not get into the card flow.

[pologq]

otters you are playing nitro online or live betting?

online totally different game. i believe it that the computer learns your tenedencies and looks to fool you also.

[Otters27]

otters you are playing nitro online or live betting?

online totally different game. i believe it that the computer learns your tenedencies and looks to fool you also.

Yes. I just played and got smoked. I definitely won't play again.

I think they make you think you are going to win and keep giving you good hands only to get 21 and make you fume. Then you go on tilt