What is the best odds for Blackjack?

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 08:13 PM

Double down on 10 showing for you

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 08:16 PM

As long as dealer has a 8 or lower

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:18 PM

What, exactly, are you asking here?

Offhand I would say don't surrender on a 3/2 table.

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Nate rasta

Double down on 10 showing for you

Ya. I know the basic strategy.

I'm talking what house rules are the softest for the player?

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by KVB

What, exactly, are you asking here?

Offhand I would say don't surrender on a 3/2 table.

You know the answer. Softest house rules. I've saved a lot on surrender and double after split. They even let me hit a soft hand when splitting aces

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:20 PM

Wider options to split, including being able to double after splitting is pretty good.

Can you split aces or 8s?

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

You know the answer. Softest house rules. I've saved a lot on surrender and double after split. They even let me hit a soft hand when splitting aces

I see.

Sure, you saved a lot on surrender but how much did you give up? How many of those surrenders could have been a win for you?

**asiagambler** · 10-21-22, 08:22 PM

All in player's favour:

(Late) Surrender ~0.1%
DAS ~0.25%
S17 ~0.2%

Double any cards edge depends. With respect to 9-11 or 10-11? Edge is huge if in relation to 10-11 but 9-11 it's very slim

I'm pretty sure most places let you split face cards because it's almost always a bad play. It IS the correct play sometimes depending on the count though (i.e. deck is rich in high cards). Hard to estimate the edge though since it's completely dependent on the remaining deck. I'd say around 0.1% if played perfectly (which no one can without software)

These are all assuming 8 decks, obviously edge increases with fewer decks

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Ya. I know the basic strategy.

I'm talking what house rules are the softest for the player?

My bad

**asiagambler** · 10-21-22, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Nate rasta

As long as dealer has a 8 or lower

9 or lower

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Nate rasta

My bad

No I asked the question wrong. Nate you like sublime?

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by KVB

I see.

Sure, you saved a lot on surrender but how much did you give up? How many of those surrenders could have been a win for you?

Small edge but this session they proved right

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 08:31 PM

Ya I like sublime.i used to listen to them in high school.i seen them live in reno with the new singer last year.great show!

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:32 PM

I kinda like Rastaman.

I think he'll do well around these parts.

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Wider options to split, including being able to double after splitting is pretty good.

Can you split aces or 8s?

Ya split anything

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Nate rasta

Ya I like sublime.i used to listen to them in high school.i seen them live in reno with the new singer last year.great show!

I saw sublime with Rome very good. Brads son is the only one to really cover him though

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:35 PM

Asiagambler right about splitting face cards unless you know the count.

And there are multiple ways to count, including tracking 5's or low, medium, and high cards that have been spent; and others.

Multiple decks erode everything, basically.

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Asiagambler right about splitting face cards unless you know the count.

And there are multiple ways to count, including tracking 5's or low, medium, and high cards that have been spent; and others.

Multiple decks erode everything, basically.

So the online is rigged?

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

So the online is rigged?

Well, that's such a loaded question.

Online where?

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Well, that's such a loaded question.

Online where?

Nitro

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 10-21-22, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Stand on soft 17?

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 08:53 PM

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo

No meant the dealer has to stand on soft 17.

I get to hit soft 17

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 10-21-22, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

No meant the dealer has to stand on soft 17.

I get to hit soft 17

Oh I see, Otters. Carry on.

**wombat** · 10-21-22, 09:01 PM

Blackjack is a losing game. There’s a reason casinos have more blackjack tables than any other table game.

You have a better chance with Baccarat. There’s a reason why there’s only one Baccarat table running at every casino.

**Otters27** · 10-21-22, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by wombat

Blackjack is a losing game. There’s a reason casinos have more blackjack tables than any other table game.

You have a better chance with Baccarat. There’s a reason why there’s only one Baccarat table running at every casino. They know which games are beatable.

What is the best baccarat strategy?

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Nitro

There's been debate about them specifically over the years, actually, and even though I don't play online blackjack the truth is most casinos are legit. There will be a third party regulator and all should be well.

It's possible to track hands and see, but for the most part this being done.

So if it's bogus, your gonna hear about it.

**biggie12** · 10-21-22, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Asiagambler right about splitting face cards unless you know the count.

And there are multiple ways to count, including tracking 5's or low, medium, and high cards that have been spent; and others.

Multiple decks erode everything, basically.

u would have to have a very favorable True count not running count to make any profits splitting 10's.

**biggie12** · 10-21-22, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

What is the best baccarat strategy?

stay away. best strategy.

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by biggie12

u would have to have a very favorable True count not running count to make any profits splitting 10's.

Good point.

Bottom line don't split them.

**Nate rasta** · 10-21-22, 09:30 PM

How about the strategy if you try to win three in a row ,roll it over and then reset

**biggie12** · 10-21-22, 09:39 PM

blackjack is almost dead for counters.... how can the average person win at blackjack... almost impossible now.

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by biggie12

blackjack is almost dead for counters.... how can the average person win at blackjack... almost impossible now.

Lake Tahoe

One table, single deck, 3/2 blackjack, high limit tables, taking all comers in Harrahs. Nearly always open.

They are challenging the counters.

lol

**KVB** · 10-21-22, 09:42 PM

Just when you think you got her, she shuffles.