Apparently, there is a "Problem" with the NHL that needs fixed

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  • packerd_00
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    • 05-22-13
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    #36
    They don't want White guys to be dominant at anything that's the truth of the matter. The only other Sport where you hear this crap about needed diversity is NASCAR.
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    • packerd_00
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      • 05-22-13
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      #37
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Many reasons for the NHL being the way it is.

      Whites generally work Monday to Friday jobs and you have to have weekend off to go to tournaments. I'm speaking with first hand knowledge as I live in a hockey community. Colored folks work jobs that require weekend work and are more focused on getting nicer homes and Cars etc. This leaves there kids exposed to less opportunities to play hockey growing up and you need to start playing from a young age.
      Many colored folks push there kids to being doctors, lawyers etc

      Equipment is expensive for sure but that's just an excuse because you can always shift your expenses.
      My nephew plays Hockey so I know how much they spend on travel to out of town games. It's craziness really.
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      • JayLA
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        #38
        Not really sure what's the issue here. Darker people don't like playing hockey, so what?
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        • Mr KLC
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          #39
          Hockey is much more of an international sport which is much more popular in the countries with a lighter skin tone. Baseball is the same way. Many Hispanic countries provide the participants that we see on the field every day. It's not the skin tone as much as it is the culture of the players we see in each individual sport.
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          • Optional
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            • 06-10-10
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            #40
            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
            I only read the beginning my apologies.

            Do you ever hear people whining about not enough whites being in the NBA to match the overall population mix?

            This whole participation trophy mentality is not realistic.

            Life isn't fair and all this garbage is setting up young minds for an eye opening experience as they age.
            Yeah it sucks that we are all forced to spend so much money and time on this in every area these days. As long as there is no institutionalized unfairness there should be no artificial race balancing.

            What I was mostly saying is that doing the survey does not mean NHL believe there is a problem, but they do have to do it or they will have no defense to anyone who does claim there is problem.
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            • bonzaii
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              #41
              Originally posted by Optional
              Yeah it sucks that we are all forced to spend so much money and time on this in every area these days. As long as there is no institutionalized unfairness there should be no artificial race balancing.

              What I was mostly saying is that doing the survey does not mean NHL believe there is a problem, but they do have to do it or they will have no defense to anyone who does claim there is problem.
              Who's claiming that there is a problem? I don't see anyone claiming that there is a problem and if there is the numbers are miniscule .This women is the one and I'm sure there are others who are in control of the NHL who see this as a problem. There doing it as a reason to make a change in the name of diversity and the whole reason for diversity is to reduce the number of white people. Where in the world do you see diversity in any large numbers other than predominately white majority countries?
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              • Optional
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                #42
                Originally posted by bonzaii
                Who's claiming that there is a problem? I don't see anyone claiming that there is a problem
                The person who started this thread we are responding to


                Originally posted by Kermit
                Apparently, there is a "Problem" with the NHL that needs fixed

                "Problem"
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                • bonzaii
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  The person who started this thread we are responding to
                  uhh no try again. Your an apologist for changes like this that the NHL is trying to make and nice attempt at spinning the question in another direction saying that Kermit is saying there is a problem when he is just saying the NHL is saying there is a problem. That quote has nothing to do with claiming that there are some people who say that there is a problem with there being a majority of white people in the workforce, or coaching, or being a player.
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                  • bonzaii
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                    #44
                    And if your not spinning it your not reading between the lines of your quote and what I said back to you.
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                    • juicername
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                      #45
                      This must be taken care of ... as soon as we get more crackers in the NBA!
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                      • bonzaii
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        but they do have to do it or they will have no defense to anyone who does claim there is problem.
                        Who cares if there are people who think there is a problem. Ignore them. Doing a report showing the large numbers of whites in the NHL is not a defense. Its an attack that fuels people who support this women and gives her and others leading this charge a reason to make these changes based on their objective of wanting to make the change even before showing these numbers because they already had an idea of the large numbers anyway. The report showing these numbers will give this women and others like her support to want to make a change by showing data that in their minds is unacceptable.
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                        • 19th Hole
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                          • 03-22-09
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          I think the logic is that if the distribution does not match the overall population mix, then there must be a bias in play somewhere.

                          That could easily just be that ice hockey is marketed more to white audiences or more white kids are attracted than black kids on average. Does not have to be racist hiring policies.

                          Not saying I agree with the focus, or that I think disparity automatically means a change is required. But big institutions like the NHL should be gathering data to seriously assess their situation. Thye leave themselves with no defense to the PC crowd if they don't.
                          ~~~

                          Opti--
                          Makes perfect sense.
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                          • manny24
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                            • 10-22-07
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                            #48
                            vasectomies and hysterectomies for all white babies until we figure out what's going on here G*ddamnit
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                            • Booya711
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by manny24
                              vasectomies and hysterectomies for all white babies until we figure out what's going on here G*ddamnit
                              They keep losing respect instead of gaining it now….Obamas fault
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
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                                #50
                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch this video of you think “racism against white people doesn’t exist” <a href="https://t.co/qwCopjCLVX">pic.twitter.com/qwCopjCLVX</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1582977051736256515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch this video of you think “racism against white people doesn’t exist” <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/qwCopjCLVX">pic.twitter.com/qwCopjCLVX</a></p>&mdash; End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1582977051736256515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                  What a load of rubbish
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                                  • actiondan
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                                    • 10-16-10
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                                    #52
                                    white ppl are the devil
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                                    • DwightShrute
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                      What a load of rubbish
                                      I wonder if Twitter would allow a video like this showing White people talking this nonsense about Black people?
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                                      • Chi_archie
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                                        #54
                                        we are under attack! if you aren't finding your local proud boys chapter and training, there is something wrong with ya, and I can't help ya
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                                        • bonzaii
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                                          #55
                                          I feel bad for white people. There under complete attack and there are so many delusional sissy boys in denial.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by bonzaii
                                            I feel bad for white people. There under complete attack and there are so many delusional sissy boys in denial.
                                            It is what it is...I am not going to be shamed and guilted for being a white male. All these woke whiners can go fukk themselves.

                                            Enough is enough.
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                                            • KVB
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                                              • 05-29-14
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Optional

                                              The person who started this thread we are responding to

                                              Originally posted by bonzaii

                                              uhh no try again. Your an apologist for changes like this that the NHL is trying to make and nice attempt at spinning the question in another direction saying that Kermit is saying there is a problem when he is just saying the NHL is saying there is a problem. That quote has nothing to do with claiming that there are some people who say that there is a problem with there being a majority of white people in the workforce, or coaching, or being a player.
                                              Maybe we should hear the entire speech from Kim Davis in the tweet in the OP.

                                              With just the 1:10 second clip, Kin Davis does not say the word "problem" so when it comes to this thread, the OP, Kermit, was just quoting what person from the AP making the tweet said.

                                              The word "problem" comes up in the tweet, but not the video. Did she say it was a "problem" in here speech? I guess we don't know from the original post.

                                              But the AP certainly used the word in the tweet.

                                              It was Kermit, he was just quoting the tweet.
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                                              • manny24
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                                                • 10-22-07
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                                                #58
                                                fuk it let em play
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                                                • captrobey
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                                                  #59
                                                  What about Jewish people with the Long beards i do not see them in NHL. Or the Amish where are they. Where are the Mormons?
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                                                  • Snowball
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                                                    #60
                                                    How about making the ice black and the puck white.
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                                                    • DwightShrute
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by captrobey
                                                      What about Jewish people with the Long beards i do not see them in NHL. Or the Amish where are they. Where are the Mormons?
                                                      do you know why there aren't many Chinese playing in the NHL?


                                                      because every time they go into the corner, they want to open up a store.
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                                                      • Fishhead
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by jakepeavy21
                                                        who cares and why does everything need to match the overall population mix?

                                                        The fact is those that are qualified, do not always sync up with that.

                                                        Maybe she will go in the hood and pass out hockey equipment?
                                                        hahaha
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                                                        • Fishhead
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          It is what it is...I am not going to be shamed and guilted for being a white male. All these woke whiners can go fukk themselves.

                                                          Enough is enough.
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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            Maybe we should hear the entire speech from Kim Davis in the tweet in the OP.

                                                            With just the 1:10 second clip, Kin Davis does not say the word "problem" so when it comes to this thread, the OP, Kermit, was just quoting what person from the AP making the tweet said.

                                                            The word "problem" comes up in the tweet, but not the video. Did she say it was a "problem" in here speech? I guess we don't know from the original post.

                                                            But the AP certainly used the word in the tweet.

                                                            It was Kermit, he was just quoting the tweet.
                                                            When they make it about race, no matter the context or whether she uses the word "problem" or not or anything along those lines, its just wrong.

                                                            Didn't someone famous once say ... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."? If so, then what the NHL is doing is wrong isn't it? And it is in itself racist isn't it?
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                                                            • captrobey
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                              do you know why there aren't many Chinese playing in the NHL?


                                                              because every time they go into the corner, they want to open up a store.
                                                              Lol and they dont pay taxes either . They can corner the market on Ice skates , bandages, and Gatorade .
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                                                              • KVB
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                If so, then what the NHL is doing is wrong isn't it? And it is in itself racist isn't it?
                                                                I was responding specifically to the use of "problem" and where it seems to come from.

                                                                What did the NHL do?

                                                                All they did was run a self identifying study with not even all employees and are producing a statistic based on it.

                                                                That's what they did.

                                                                Now if Kim Davis wants to set some kind of hiring quota then I hope it comes with investments in black neighborhoods for ice hockey access. That way kids can play then become coaches and fathers with kids who play. That will create qualified candidates for sure. It will take more than a generation if they started now.

                                                                But somehow I don't see an ice rink and a hockey league popping up and getting poplular in south bama anytime soon.

                                                                I would abosolutely, however, not rule out that qualified black people were denied an NHL job because of their color.

                                                                It literally happens everywhere with just about everything, even if the incidents are not many, and there is more than enough legitimate data to back that up.

                                                                The NHL is just trying to see if that's what they are guilty of and we all know somewhere along the way somebody probably was. It's just the law of averages. But that's likely a minority...again in line with data.
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                                                                • Foxx
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Snowball;[URL="tel:31031294"
                                                                  31031294[/URL]]How about making the ice black and the puck white.
                                                                  Probably wouldn't work on account of black ice being very dangerous
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                                                                  • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    I came from a hockey family... and most of these answers are going around the true bread and butter of the REAL ANSWER.

                                                                    1. Most black people simply can't skate (no coordination on ice.)

                                                                    2. They also hate COLD WEATHER.

                                                                    Yes, hockey is an expensive sport... but it's not the real reason. I'm not being racist... I'm simply being honest. Its hilarious that the NHL is leaning towards minorities. Bettman knows this... he's acting like he doesn't.... he doesn't want heat from this.

                                                                    If the NHL tries to fix this... good luck... it's impossible.
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                                                                    • KVB
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                                                                      • 05-29-14
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      I agree money, gonna take like two generations of focused change and investment.

                                                                      And that's not going to happen.

                                                                      Anything else is pure optics.
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                                                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Did Donald Brashear ever talk about a racial issue in hockey? Did Anson Carter every talk about a racial issue in hockey? These dudes played on an ALL WHITE TEAM. It just goes to show.... the media... and "SELECT" groups brings up racism in the world. Where exactly is the racial issue at??? Clearly they would of told you if there was one.

                                                                        Just one sad ridiculous world we live in now... totally fed up with this horse sh## everyday. They say we live in a free world... it doesn't look free to me. Biased bullsh##. It's always "some group" saying something isn't EQUAL.... well... it looks fine to me.
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