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  • trytrytry
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    • 03-13-06
    • 23649

    #71
    2500 sent
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    • USCPHILLYGUY
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      • 12-15-12
      • 21744

      #72
      Originally posted by mr. leisure
      Team entry :

      Daniel Espinosa 95 %

      Mr. Leisure 5 %

      Sending my 125 points
      Can’t really see how this is fair though smart
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      • trytrytry
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        • 03-13-06
        • 23649

        #73
        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
        PM if interested in a 50/50 split
        agree agree agree, put in your 1500 as will I and give your team a name. thanks jaybegas

        pm sent
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        • JAKEPEAVY21
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          • 03-11-11
          • 29217

          #74
          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
          Can’t really see how this is fair though smart
          Agreed a 95-5% split is not really in the spirit of a "team entry"

          It really should be a mandatory 50-50 split or at minimum 75-25...
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          • Roger T. Bannon
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-28-18
            • 5139

            #75
            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
            Agreed a 95-5% split is not really in the spirit of a "team entry"

            It really should be a mandatory 50-50 split or at minimum 75-25...
            If Mr. Leisure wants to give 95% of winnings to Daniel Espinosa for his picks that would work. But is also against forum rules from what I understand.
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            • mr. leisure
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-29-08
              • 17507

              #76
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              Agreed a 95-5% split is not really in the spirit of a "team entry"

              It really should be a mandatory 50-50 split or at minimum 75-25...
              I will glady put in more .
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              • USCPHILLYGUY
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-15-12
                • 21744

                #77
                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                Agreed a 95-5% split is not really in the spirit of a "team entry"

                It really should be a mandatory 50-50 split or at minimum 75-25...
                I’m thinking the rule was set in place for a 50/50 team split. Could possible see 33/33/33 with 3 players but anything less is abusing the system
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                • Roger T. Bannon
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-28-18
                  • 5139

                  #78
                  Any unequal split is a scam.
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                  • Roger T. Bannon
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-18
                    • 5139

                    #79
                    Really anyone that wants a full entry should get one and the rest of the field should be with teams. I assume teams were allowed in the past to fill the field. If you have 80 people that want in by a certain deadline, they should get in unless they do not have a full entry already.
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                      • 02-14-12
                      • 36055

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                      Any unequal split is a scam.
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                      • Roger T. Bannon
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-28-18
                        • 5139

                        #81
                        Ideally, you should have full entry and those that cannot afford a full entry or are not willing can partner and that is equivalent to a full entry. You should not be able to double dip when the site is putting in money. Everyone should get an equal chance at the contest.
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                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                          • 02-14-12
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                          Ideally, you should have full entry and those that cannot afford a full entry or are not willing can partner and that is equivalent to a full entry. You should not be able to double dip when the site is putting in money. Everyone should get an equal chance at the contest.
                          I see your point now. You think Espinoza is scamming the system not Mr. Leisure. I would assume.
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                          • Roger T. Bannon
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-28-18
                            • 5139

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                            I see your point now. You think Espinoza is scamming the system not Mr. Leisure. I would assume.
                            They are both scamming. Mr. Leisure wants to free ride on Daniel. He is getting something for nothing. Daniel is getting an extra entry at the expense of someone else. You should only have full entries and partnerships. If you are partnered, you cannot have a full entry. If there are not 80 entries then it is just more for those that participated.
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                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-15-12
                              • 21744

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                              They are both scamming. Mr. Leisure wants to free ride on Daniel. He is getting something for nothing. Daniel is getting an extra entry at the expense of someone else. You should only have full entries and partnerships. If you are partnered, you cannot have a full entry. If there are not 80 entries then it is just more for those that participated.
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                • 02-14-12
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                They are both scamming. Mr. Leisure wants to free ride on Daniel. He is getting something for nothing. Daniel is getting an extra entry at the expense of someone else. You should only have full entries and partnerships. If you are partnered, you cannot have a full entry. If there are not 80 entries then it is just more for those that participated.
                                Yeah but Mr. leisure is getting a 5% cut not much. It's Espinoza who is getting almost a full ride on his 2nd entry. Big difference
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-18
                                  • 5139

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                  Yeah but Mr. leisure is getting a 5% cut not much. It's Espinoza who is getting almost a full ride on his 2nd entry. Big difference
                                  Yeah, he is just getting what he thinks is a good deal and allowing Daniel to double dip the contest.
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                                  • mr. leisure
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-29-08
                                    • 17507

                                    #87
                                    This is not that important to me , LT can send my points back or have me send more .

                                    I don`t want to be known as a scammer .
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                                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                                      • 02-14-12
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                      Yeah, he is just getting what he thinks is a good deal and allowing Daniel to double dip the contest.
                                      Yep you make a valid assertion should be a min 75/25 split IMO.
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                                      • Roger T. Bannon
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-28-18
                                        • 5139

                                        #89
                                        If you give away $10K and you do not get 80 entries, you have a shitty contest.
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                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                          • 02-14-12
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by mr. leisure
                                          This is not that important to me , LT can send my points back or have me send more .

                                          I don`t want to be known as a scammer .
                                          you are one of the good guys Mr. Leisure. on the forum. always willing to lend me points. I appreciate that. It's not you that is getting a free ride. but yeah maybe you can up the ante a bit if you and Espinoza agree. good luck.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29217

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                            Yeah but Mr. leisure is getting a 5% cut not much. It's Espinoza who is getting almost a full ride on his 2nd entry. Big difference
                                            Yes, my comment was in reference to someone having their own entry and 95% of another. That's basically getting 2 entries all to yourself and abusing the rules...just my .02

                                            Mr Leisure all good but Espinoza an angle shooter.
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                                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-15-12
                                              • 21744

                                              #92
                                              Just setting up a bad precedent here. When I played with Mpash we split the picks evenly and then decided on the stars. Espenozas in essence getting 2 entries.
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                                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                • 02-14-12
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                Yes, my comment was in reference to someone having their own entry and 95% of another. That's basically getting 2 entries all to yourself and abusing the rules...just my .02
                                                yeah agreed but within the rules I guess. for this year. maybe another time down the road it will change?
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 51807

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                  Yes, my comment was in reference to someone having their own entry and 95% of another. That's basically getting 2 entries all to yourself and abusing the rules...just my .02

                                                  Mr Leisure all good but Espinoza an angle shooter.
                                                  agree and i thought they made it a min stake per person in years past?
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                                                  • sportsfun
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-05-05
                                                    • 1055

                                                    #95
                                                    i could do 50% team if someone interested. please direct message or put in this thread if interested to send points.
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                                                    • trytrytry
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-13-06
                                                      • 23649

                                                      #96
                                                      1250 sent
                                                      50-50 with Jayvegas420

                                                      team name tryvegas
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                                                      • Roger T. Bannon
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-28-18
                                                        • 5139

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                        yeah agreed but within the rules I guess. for this year. maybe another time down the road it will change?
                                                        I don't think there are any rules. There is 1 entry per solo and 1 entry per team. My interpretation of that would be that you can be solo or you can be a team. Teams are equal to solos. It is up to the site if they want to allow an extra entry in this way. In the past maybe they have done that. It is not a very good way to run a contest but this site does a lot of stuff that is not all that smart.

                                                        Obviously, people should be able to team if they do not want a solo entry. If you are short on entries, maybe you allow some double dipping. If you are short on entries though, you might want to rethink how you give away $10,000.
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                                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                          • 02-14-12
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                          I don't think there are any rules. There is 1 entry per solo and 1 entry per team. My interpretation of that would be that you can be solo or you can be a team. Teams are equal to solos. It is up to the site if they want to allow an extra entry in this way. In the past maybe they have done that. It is not a very good way to run a contest but this site does a lot of stuff that is not all that smart.

                                                          Obviously, people should be able to team if they do not want a solo entry. If you are short on entries, maybe you allow some double dipping. If you are short on entries though, you might want to rethink how you give away $10,000.
                                                          yeah good points. for sure SBR wants the contest to fill. never had a problem in the past that I can remember. But at one time you could join as many teams as you wanted. Then they changed to this format. Guess it is what it is. No worries.
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                                                          • CarolinaDaze
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                                                            • 11-07-09
                                                            • 6844

                                                            #99
                                                            Team: CarolinaDaze / harthebar

                                                            50% -50% split
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                                                            • Roger T. Bannon
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-28-18
                                                              • 5139

                                                              #100
                                                              If multiple entries, Team sportsfun/RTB

                                                              50-50.
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                                                              • harthebar
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-09-11
                                                                • 15689

                                                                #101
                                                                Going 50 50 with carolina daze

                                                                GL
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                                                                • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-15-12
                                                                  • 21744

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY


                                                                  Hoping Mpash will join in our annual tradition
                                                                  Would like my team name #INMEMORYOFTHECHAOZ.
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                                                                  • ArunSh
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                                                                    • 09-24-07
                                                                    • 6801

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                    Yes, my comment was in reference to someone having their own entry and 95% of another. That's basically getting 2 entries all to yourself and abusing the rules...just my .02

                                                                    Mr Leisure all good but Espinoza an angle shooter.

                                                                    Yes, I agree, while that technically may be within the rules as written, it's not in the spirit of being a real "team".

                                                                    I mean I would like to effectively have two full entries myself - nothing against my teammate, but this is a very generous contest with a huge overlay, of course I would be maximizing my EV to effectively have two full entries like Espinosa rather than 1.5

                                                                    Not sure something should be done about it since, as written, it is within the rules, but I think most would agree the rule about what constitutes a real "team" should perhaps be reevaluated in future years if nothing else.
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                                                                    • beavis13
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-18-14
                                                                      • 2823

                                                                      #104
                                                                      I’ll do a 50/50 if anyone is looking.
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                                                                      • MalikHusam
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-07-16
                                                                        • 2659

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by sportsfun
                                                                        i could do 50% team if someone interested. please direct message or put in this thread if interested to send points.
                                                                        I'll do 50/50
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