Serious question - does anybody actually win at sports betting at a 55-60+% clip??

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  • EGrecu
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    • 09-15-21
    • 709

    #1
    Serious question - does anybody actually win at sports betting at a 55-60+% clip??
    Does anybody here have a thread showing their plays where they consistently win at a clip around 55-60% year after year?


    Billy walters claims to be some sports gambling genius and his posted plays barely win at like 52-53%. I'm not talking about someone who picks all games winning 55-60% ATS - obviously that's impossible. I'm talking about someone who picks 2-3 games every sunday and wins at a 55-60% clip


    and I'm talking about standard bets - not arbing, middling, steam chasing, any of that nonsense
    Last edited by EGrecu; 10-24-21, 08:33 PM.
  • gauchojake
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    • 09-17-10
    • 34103

    #2
    Yes

    Bookies

    Please get a new handle bear
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    • EGrecu
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      • 09-15-21
      • 709

      #3
      Originally posted by gauchojake
      Yes

      Bookies

      Please get a new handle bear

      who is bear?


      I'm not another poster
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      • Mr KLC
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        • 12-19-07
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        #4
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        • EGrecu
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          • 09-15-21
          • 709

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr KLC

          huh??
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          • mjsuax13
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            • 03-14-15
            • 24805

            #6
            What were your plays today SEAWEED?
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            • pavyracer
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              • 04-12-07
              • 82481

              #7
              I do better than 60%. But I play a lot of MLs.
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              • EGrecu
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                • 09-15-21
                • 709

                #8
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                I do better than 60%. But I play a lot of MLs.
                I'm talking about 60% when playing -110 plays


                if you're avg play is -200, then you would have to be winning around 75%
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                • RoyBacon
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                  • 09-21-05
                  • 37074

                  #9
                  Originally posted by EGrecu
                  I'm talking about 60% when playing -110 plays


                  if you're avg play is -200, then you would have to be winning around 75%
                  No one hits 60% long term. 55% is possible by a few.
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                  • EGrecu
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-15-21
                    • 709

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                    No one hits 60% long term. 55% is possible by a few.

                    show me evidence of someone who consistently wins 55%
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                    • Fred The Hammer
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-13-13
                      • 11567

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EGrecu
                      show me evidence of someone who consistently wins 55%
                      I have a Bowl thread here every year and hit atleast 65%. I've won fairly big like 6 of the last 7 years. NC with Trubisky fk'd me that one year vs Stanford in the Sun Bowl. The key to sportsbetting is the same as poker. Action junkies bet too many games and play too many hands in poker. Be selective like a hit man. They don't spray the crowd. They find their mark and then off the MF dead


                      So am I smart enough to wager only on cfb? No, I guess I'm an action junkie too to a certain extent
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                      • RoyBacon
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                        • 09-21-05
                        • 37074

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EGrecu
                        show me evidence of someone who consistently wins 55%

                        Billy Walters

                        Billy Walters’ success and acumen in the high-stakes gambling world has shown that it is possible to win at sports betting and be profitable. However, Walters only won 57% of the time, which means there was also a ton of money that he lost. Losing is a part of the process, and it happens all the time to even the most seasoned professionals!
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                        • KiDBaZkiT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 14962

                          #13
                          Yes I do and have for years.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388189

                            #14
                            95% don’t
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                            • EGrecu
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                              • 09-15-21
                              • 709

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                              Billy Walters

                              Billy Walters’ success and acumen in the high-stakes gambling world has shown that it is possible to win at sports betting and be profitable. However, Walters only won 57% of the time, which means there was also a ton of money that he lost. Losing is a part of the process, and it happens all the time to even the most seasoned professionals!



                              57% my ass

                              look at his website. It's way closer to 50%... many years he loses money
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                              • EGrecu
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                                • 09-15-21
                                • 709

                                #16
                                Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                Yes I do and have for years.
                                show proof? do you have a thread?
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                                • jjgold
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                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  Billy Walters only won when bookmakers technology was not that great, once it changes he got destroyed

                                  Billy Walters only had money because of a illegal activities and bookmaking or should I say that was the bulk of his money

                                  Can’t beat them anymore because of technology And most books staying within market numbers unlike years ago

                                  I’m the authority on this subject
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                                  • EGrecu
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                                    • 09-15-21
                                    • 709

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Billy Walters only won when bookmakers technology was not that great, once it changes he got destroyed

                                    Billy Walters only had money because of a illegal activities and bookmaking or should I say that was the bulk of his money

                                    Can’t beat them anymore because of technology And most books staying within market numbers unlike years ago

                                    I’m the authority on this subject
                                    he's got all his plays on his website - multiple years, he's in the negative
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #19
                                      He is a clown
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                                      • TommieGunshot
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                                        • 03-27-12
                                        • 1586

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by EGrecu
                                        Does anybody here have a thread showing their plays where they consistently win at a clip around 55-60% year after year?


                                        Billy walters claims to be some sports gambling genius and his posted plays barely win at like 52-53%. I'm not talking about someone who picks all games winning 55-60% ATS - obviously that's impossible. I'm talking about someone who picks 2-3 games every sunday and wins at a 55-60% clip


                                        and I'm talking about standard bets - not arbing, middling, steam chasing, any of that nonsense
                                        There is no one who does this. There are definitely people who could, but doing it this way would mean severely limiting their profits. So they do it differently.
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                                        • RoyBacon
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                                          • 09-21-05
                                          • 37074

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by EGrecu
                                          57% my ass

                                          look at his website. It's way closer to 50%... many years he loses money
                                          Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Neither of us know. But we do know the entire industry was terrified of him for a couple of decades.

                                          Brock hit 60% posted losers over a lonnng stretch. That should count for something. Not easy.
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                                          • EGrecu
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                                            • 09-15-21
                                            • 709

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                            Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Neither of us know. But we do know the entire industry was terrified of him for a couple of decades.

                                            I guarantee you he was doing illegal sh*t


                                            very very hard to win straight up at 55-60% on sports betting
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                                            • EGrecu
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                                              • 09-15-21
                                              • 709

                                              #23
                                              ....
                                              Last edited by EGrecu; 10-25-21, 08:20 AM.
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                                              • EGrecu
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                                                • 09-15-21
                                                • 709

                                                #24
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                                                • JacketFan81
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-28-17
                                                  • 1743

                                                  #25
                                                  Of course! A bunch of us do! That's why we have all this time to post on here.... we all quit our jobs and became professional sports bettors.
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                                                  • EGrecu
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-15-21
                                                    • 709

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JacketFan81
                                                    Of course! A bunch of us do! That's why we have all this time to post on here.... we all quit our jobs and became professional sports bettors.

                                                    no but seriously - is there anybody with a posted record of winning?
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                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                      • 5139

                                                      #27
                                                      Nobody hits 60%. 56% is possible by the best in the world.

                                                      As an average bettor, you can hit 53% if you are really good. 54% is pretty much top level.
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                                                      • JacketFan81
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-28-17
                                                        • 1743

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                        Nobody hits 60%. 56% is possible by the best in the world.

                                                        As an average bettor, you can hit 53% if you are really good. 54% is pretty much top level.
                                                        This
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                                                        • milwaukee mike
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                                                          • 08-22-07
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                                                          #29
                                                          there are people that win 55% but it's not on stuff like full game nfl spreads
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            Always remember the small percentage of Winners do everything

                                                            They bet almost every sport imaginable looking for edges and don’t know one player on any team


                                                            They take every bonus and every perk
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                                                            • Roger T. Bannon
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                                                              • 06-28-18
                                                              • 5139

                                                              #31
                                                              Also Billy Walters does not sell picks. Someone is pretending to be Billy Walters.

                                                              Billy Walters is also not actually a gambler. He is a manager of gamblers. He chooses other people's picks. He cannot pick games on his own.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388189

                                                                #32
                                                                Billy Walters is not in the game anymore the whole spectrum change everybody deals market lines
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                                                                • thomorino
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                                                                  • 06-01-17
                                                                  • 45842

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you are a high volume bettor 55-60% is more than enough to make a lot of money - if you aren't a high volume bettor the answer is no. Its obviously easier to hit at a higher percentage the fewer bets and more selective you are.
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                                                                  • JohnGalt2341
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                                                                    • 12-31-09
                                                                    • 9138

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This isn't proof of anything but this goes to show you how rare it is for a person to hit 55% or more, even in a contest with several thousand people. The first link below is for Covers NCAA Basketball contest for last season. The person below ranked #1 for Over/Under out of 4402 people and he didn't even hit 55%.

                                                                    See mollydog contests rank, pick percentage, pending picks and contest history all from their NCAAB 2020-2021 picks profile page.



                                                                    Check this guy out. He's ranked #1 for MLB Over/Under this year and he's not even hitting 54%

                                                                    See yendez23 contests rank, pick percentage, pending picks and contest history all from their MLB '21 picks profile page.



                                                                    Here's the #1 ranked guy Against The Spread in College Basketball for last year. He too hit less than 55%

                                                                    See Nittanymac5800 contests rank, pick percentage, pending picks and contest history all from their NCAAB 2020-2021 picks profile page.



                                                                    They're all pretty much like that on Cover's contests. And then if you go check on their past seasons you can see that people don't win from season to season. You might be thinking... well... if people were that good... why would they be wasting their time on Covers? That's a fair point. But hitting 55% is HARD. Anyone that thinks it's easy is either lying... or they haven't been doing it for very long, or they are FAR FAR smarter than I am.
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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                                      • 45842

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                      there are people that win 55% but it's not on stuff like full game nfl spreads
                                                                      Wrong. Any line can be beaten but the books baseball lines are much sharper than football lines. The football season is very short, so the books numbers are never that good for football in most cases. 17 games isn't a big enough sample size to build formulas or models that can predict outcomes at sufficient rates.
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