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  • gauchojake
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-17-10
    • 34100

    #1296
    Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
    True. I am a lot smarter. Shari getting hit with an NDA is playing hard ball.

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    • Roger T. Bannon
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-28-18
      • 5139

      #1297
      Alright. I got my $500. I am in the clear. I will wait for points to be paid.
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      • DG PortSac
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-19-17
        • 5

        #1298
        Perfectly said. I tried to give you all of my points since this is the last time that I will ever be on here but it won't let me. The worst part is that bullshit "We're building a vision of SBR for the next decade and beyond" Who's we? What a penetrating joke. It was a nice run SBR.
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        • DG PortSac
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-19-17
          • 5

          #1299
          Perfectly said. I tried to give you all of my points since this is the last time that I will ever be on here but it won't let me. The worst part is that bullshit "We're building a vision of SBR for the next decade and beyond" Who's we? What a penetrating joke. It was a nice run SBR.
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          • DG PortSac
            SBR Rookie
            • 01-19-17
            • 5

            #1300
            Irritant!

            I bet you that ALL of the offshore books that we have been using over the years are happy as penetrate. Now they know that they can take even longer to payout, screw people over in a ton of different ways than they would when they knew that if they did, it would be posted on SBR and looked into. They can pretty much do whatever they want to do now. It's too bad that Tony from the old 5 dimes isn't still alive. He would have LOVED this bullshit move. Bye SBR. It was a good run.
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            • pabonaparte
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-16
              • 3566

              #1301
              Originally posted by DG PortSac
              I bet you that ALL of the offshore books that we have been using over the years are happy as penetrate. Now they know that they can take even longer to payout, screw people over in a ton of different ways than they would when they knew that if they did, it would be posted on SBR and looked into. They can pretty much do whatever they want to do now. It's too bad that Tony from the old 5 dimes isn't still alive. He would have LOVED this bullshit move. Bye SBR. It was a good run.
              What are you saying, that DraftKings would love nothing more than a solid offshore competitor (Heritage, 5Dimes etc) starting to screw players over?

              well duh!

              This is capitalism. If those offshore competitors can't make ends meet, they will screw their players over regardless of what the old SBR says or does. The only reason they stayed in the business this long is they PAY. And the only way they can survive in the future, and have a chance to serve U.S. customers legally in the future (like Tony's widow is planning to) is keep their good name and continue PAYING.

              SBR was never a factor *in the big picture* if we really want to get cynical here. People like you are just upset their milk money was taken from them. Man up, and start paying for your hobbies you loser!
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              • pabonaparte
                SBR MVP
                • 01-21-16
                • 3566

                #1302
                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                Alright. I got my $500. I am in the clear. I will wait for points to be paid.
                I'm not trying to ge a genius here, but apparently a business decision was made where this current Pick-6 tournament will be paid out as planned. And the 95% of SBR's so-called liability in form of millions of betpoints on PRO user accounts will be conveniently forgoten about.

                Is this the impression you are getting as well, Roger T. Bannon?
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #1303
                  Originally posted by firedawg
                  kvb such a fukkin geek lol
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                  • Roger T. Bannon
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-18
                    • 5139

                    #1304
                    Originally posted by pabonaparte
                    I'm not trying to ge a genius here, but apparently a business decision was made where this current Pick-6 tournament will be paid out as planned. And the 95% of SBR's so-called liability in form of millions of betpoints on PRO user accounts will be conveniently forgoten about.

                    Is this the impression you are getting as well, Roger T. Bannon?
                    Yes, old SBR is paying the contests out of its pocket because it put those in place before the site was sold. They view your points as their points so they will not be paying those.
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                    • dlowilly
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-09-16
                      • 13862

                      #1305
                      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                      Yes, old SBR is paying the contests out of its pocket because it put those in place before the site was sold. They view your points as their points so they will not be paying those.
                      I had this balance before football season. No excuse for paying out some contest but not point balances if that's what happens.
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                      • Sam Losco
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-03-16
                        • 3858

                        #1306
                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                        I had this balance before football season. No excuse for paying out some contest but not point balances if that's what happens.
                        they are letting you keep your points
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                        • thechaoz
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-23-09
                          • 12154

                          #1307
                          Originally posted by dlowilly
                          I had this balance before football season. No excuse for paying out some contest but not point balances if that's what happens.
                          I know we basically disagree on everything, but these people saying we should have cashed out or whatever just have no clue.

                          We held on the points because you can't buy them, we acted in good faith, we renewed our Pro membership since day one, and it's nice to have a little cushion if things go bad and especially since you need points for fantasy, poker, the NCAA contest all that.
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                          • Roger T. Bannon
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-28-18
                            • 5139

                            #1308
                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                            I had this balance before football season. No excuse for paying out some contest but not point balances if that's what happens.
                            They will honor the contests because they intended to pay those out. They do not consider points as money. They would tell you they gave you $6,000 worth of points and paid out over $1,000,000 over the years. They think it is funny that you think you should be paid for your points. I can guarantee you they are laughing out loud.
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                            • Itsamazing777
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-14-12
                              • 12602

                              #1309
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                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-28-18
                                • 5139

                                #1310
                                SBR has an excuse for not paying out points since they sold the site. But seems they do still own a chunk of it so they really should be paying out. The New SBR should honor the points if that is the case. But you are never going to know that SBR owns a part of this site.

                                They have every right to say that the points system does not work anymore so they are not going to pay though. They are SBR's points. Not yours.
                                Last edited by Roger T. Bannon; 11-14-21, 10:00 AM.
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                                • carolinakid
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-12-11
                                  • 19106

                                  #1311
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                                  • themike78
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-01-13
                                    • 4873

                                    #1312
                                    Originally posted by DG PortSac
                                    I bet you that ALL of the offshore books that we have been using over the years are happy as penetrate. Now they know that they can take even longer to payout, screw people over in a ton of different ways than they would when they knew that if they did, it would be posted on SBR and looked into. They can pretty much do whatever they want to do now. It's too bad that Tony from the old 5 dimes isn't still alive. He would have LOVED this bullshit move. Bye SBR. It was a good run.
                                    The books paid before sbr even existed and will continue to do so if they want to stay in business. There are other places to file complaints. Sbr not advertising offshore books will have no impact whether books pay or not.
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                                    • gauchojake
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 09-17-10
                                      • 34100

                                      #1313
                                      SportsSacker probably complains to the BBB repeatedly
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #1314
                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
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                                        • OVAKUL
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-16-17
                                          • 1538

                                          #1315
                                          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                          SBR has an excuse for not paying out points since they sold the site. But seems they do still own a chunk of it so they really should be paying out. The New SBR should honor the points if that is the case. But you are never going to know that SBR owns a part of this site.

                                          They have every right to say that the points system does not work anymore so they are not going to pay though. They are SBR's points. Not yours.
                                          If they still own the site, they can't say that. What they can, and should do, is increase the prices, by say 10x

                                          It's what the United States does every 40 years since 1933
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                                          • OVAKUL
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-16-17
                                            • 1538

                                            #1316
                                            Originally posted by Sam Losco
                                            they are letting you keep your points
                                            Yes, but you don't really have 100k, you have 10k worth about $165 in real money.
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                                            • Roger T. Bannon
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-28-18
                                              • 5139

                                              #1317
                                              Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                              If they still own the site, they can't say that. What they can, and should do, is increase the prices, by say 10x

                                              It's what the United States does every 40 years since 1933
                                              That is still a money loser.
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82621

                                                #1318
                                                Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                                If they still own the site, they can't say that. What they can, and should do, is increase the prices, by say 10x

                                                It's what the United States does every 40 years since 1933
                                                What they did is make the betpoints worthless. So the Pros are left holding the bag and they run away with our money.
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                                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-28-18
                                                  • 5139

                                                  #1319
                                                  It looks like we may have Amazon gift card contests. This site may not be a total loss.
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                                                  • Roger T. Bannon
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-28-18
                                                    • 5139

                                                    #1320
                                                    It also looks like people are going to have to clean up their act substantially.
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                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                      • 5139

                                                      #1321
                                                      I can also see now why Shari signed an NDA and SBR assigned her to the new company. She is going to whip this site into shape. She is the only person that can do it.
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                                                      • manny24
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-22-07
                                                        • 20046

                                                        #1322
                                                        it takes all of us
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                                                        • Roger T. Bannon
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-28-18
                                                          • 5139

                                                          #1323
                                                          Look both ways when the new site comes out.
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                                                          • thechaoz
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-23-09
                                                            • 12154

                                                            #1324
                                                            Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                            It looks like we may have Amazon gift card contests. This site may not be a total loss.
                                                            Where are you getting all this info on betpoints, contests, the "new value" of betpoints?

                                                            Or are we just talking out our ass?
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                                                            • thechaoz
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-23-09
                                                              • 12154

                                                              #1325
                                                              It's been a month. Any timeline on this amazing new SBR?
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                                                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-28-18
                                                                • 5139

                                                                #1326
                                                                Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                                Where are you getting all this info on betpoints, contests, the "new value" of betpoints?

                                                                Or are we just talking out our ass?
                                                                I am talking out of my ass. I am pretty sure I know who has bought the site. Everything is consistent. And pretty sure I know where this is going.

                                                                SBR and this company have some agreement. SBR is wrapping this site up. That is why it is going to hell.
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                                                                • shari91
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 02-23-10
                                                                  • 32661

                                                                  #1327
                                                                  If that’s the truth then I hope someone tells those of us still here!

                                                                  But again, I don’t think that’s John’s style. He has a big heart that guy and he wouldn’t be stuffing people over after two years of COVID and close to Christmas. I think there may just be some structural changes happening and even legal ones… but what do I know? Still can’t answer your emails or anything so I may be the most clueless of all
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                                                                  • tradeout
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-01-14
                                                                    • 2541

                                                                    #1328
                                                                    Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                                    It's been a month. Any timeline on this amazing new SBR?
                                                                    Oh. True. Just realized that it has been over a month, and no 'EXCITING NEWS' yet?
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                                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                                      • 5139

                                                                      #1329
                                                                      If you look at this from the point of view that this site is going to go forward as is, none of it makes sense. When you look at it from the point of view that this site is now a money pit for all concerned, it all makes sense.

                                                                      We will all learn together in time.

                                                                      It is all very strange.
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                                                                      • Sam Losco
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-03-16
                                                                        • 3858

                                                                        #1330
                                                                        reassigning staff and setting everything up for their new plan going forward, and then they will wrap up sbr as we knew it. it was fun while it lasted
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