Is Bucs -6.5 one of the worst beats this year? I call a fix
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lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
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#106Comment -
DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-15-10
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#107Analytics say that going for two is the correct call, some teams buy it and some don't. Brady kneeling at the five is obviously the correct decision.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#108
The Reason the Bucs dont kick that FG, is because they were told not to. If the powers that be wanted them to cover the number, they kick it. Money talks. Not some analytics saying thats the right call. Its a BS call.
Same reason Pete Carroll throws into the endzone 4 times instead of running Beastmode. He was told to do it. All these head scratchers are for a reason. Its about money.Comment -
swordsandtequilaSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-23-12
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#109Correct as in what? Why not kick a FG? Dont give me that shit about fumbling or missing the kick. I cant kick a football and I can make that FG. A Pro can do it in his sleep.
The Reason the Bucs dont kick that FG, is because they were told not to. If the powers that be wanted them to cover the number, they kick it. Money talks. Not some analytics saying thats the right call. Its a BS call.
Same reason Pete Carroll throws into the endzone 4 times instead of running Beastmode. He was told to do it. All these head scratchers are for a reason. Its about money.Comment -
homie1975SBR Posting Legend
- 12-24-13
- 15452
#110Correct as in what? Why not kick a FG? Dont give me that shit about fumbling or missing the kick. I cant kick a football and I can make that FG. A Pro can do it in his sleep.
The Reason the Bucs dont kick that FG, is because they were told not to. If the powers that be wanted them to cover the number, they kick it. Money talks. Not some analytics saying thats the right call. Its a BS call.
Same reason Pete Carroll throws into the endzone 4 times instead of running Beastmode. He was told to do it. All these head scratchers are for a reason. Its about money.
kneeling at the 5 got the job done. it's over. no risk.Comment -
Booya711BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-20-11
- 27329
#111Games are fixed to the point spread….been like this since gambling started….if you don’t believe it, you are kidding yourself
another reason you are all losers because you don’t want to believe or accept itComment -
thinwhitedukeSBR Wise Guy
- 10-10-21
- 615
#112Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
- 34104
#113I was on the wrong side of the 2 pt conversion but I understand why they did it and it's the correct call. If you miss it you still have the opportunity to go for two and tie. If you make it, you need a td/xp to win, a td and xp miss to tie, or two fg to tie. The probability of converting the 2pC is just about 50%. It's pretty basic math at that point.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
- 45842
#114I was on the wrong side of the 2 pt conversion but I understand why they did it and it's the correct call. If you miss it you still have the opportunity to go for two and tie. If you make it, you need a td/xp to win, a td and xp miss to tie, or two fg to tie. The probability of converting the 2pC is just about 50%. It's pretty basic math at that point.Comment -
JayDr3amSBR Posting Legend
- 05-06-14
- 18260
#115& the worst part is trying to argue with someone that thinks teams absolutely never play to/for the spread lol people are stubborn and have their own ways of thinking.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#116
There's no risk at all. It's a chip shot. How many XP were blocked and returned for a TD? The ball was on the 5. Absolutely no risk. I was on Eagles by the way.Comment -
semibluffSBR MVP
- 04-12-16
- 1515
#117
If a FG was blocked and returned for a TD it would have been a full TD rather than 2 points and the Eagles could have won...which is why the Buccaneers knelt 3 times and avoided even that slight risk.Comment -
homie1975SBR Posting Legend
- 12-24-13
- 15452
#118More than zero, (although XPs can only be returned for 2 points rather than a TD).
If a FG was blocked and returned for a TD it would have been a full TD rather than 2 points and the Eagles could have won...which is why the Buccaneers knelt 3 times and avoided even that slight risk.Comment -
DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-15-10
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#119Correct as in what? Why not kick a FG? Dont give me that shit about fumbling or missing the kick. I cant kick a football and I can make that FG. A Pro can do it in his sleep.
The Reason the Bucs dont kick that FG, is because they were told not to. If the powers that be wanted them to cover the number, they kick it. Money talks. Not some analytics saying thats the right call. Its a BS call.
Same reason Pete Carroll throws into the endzone 4 times instead of running Beastmode. He was told to do it. All these head scratchers are for a reason. Its about money.Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
- 28672
#121A lot of posters backing up going for 2 point conversion wouldn't last a week coaching. You'd be fired instantly. lol
THEY WENT FOR 2 POINTS BECAUSE VEGAS TOLD THEM TO DO IT!! lolComment -
WireWireSBR Wise Guy
- 02-02-21
- 942
#122No. You can use all the math you want but the decision was made for Eagles to cover. It's never consistent on the decision to go for 2. The shit is fake and I won my bet. Not because I thought it would it would happen like this, but because it was the right side. Vegas needed Eagles and low and behold weird shit happens so the game lands on 6.
Math my ass. The only math you need to know in this game is money.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#123
No. I had Eagles +7. I won. The math is correct in that it makes sense if the Eagles could score again. Nm the fact these asshats couldn't do shit all night except when the Bucs allowed them to. Literally laid down for the Eagles to score just so they could attempt a 2pt conversion. Brady goes right back down the field and kneels it. But it's not rigged.
Math prevails. No funny shit going on with the GOAT. Lmao. I bet Eagles. I watched the game. Not any reason for me to win except it was rigged. Tampa could have scored 35 if they wanted. But they didn't because Vegas needed Eagles. Bet with Vegas and you'll win more than you lose. I think it's comical that people believe these games aren't rigged.
Good luckComment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#124
The call wasn't bad because IF? You have the best RB in the NFL and you throw the ball? You're trying justify BS. The game is rigged my man. Open your eyes. Refs making the dumbest calls don't faze you? Players faking injuries, Coaches making dumb decisions, QBs throwing straight to a safety or CB, Lines not blocking, or attacking a QB, none of that matters to you? You have to be blind.
Look at my screen name. I was as die hard as it gets. If you told me years ago that the games were rigged we would have fought. But someone opened my eyes one day like Toto peeling back the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. There's no undoing that. It's tough bruh, it is. At first I was like BS. Then I researched and I was like YEP!! . No denying it anymore. I'm no longer die hard. This was years ago. Saints will never win another SB because it's rigged and the trophy is an award. Not for the best team, but the team the NFL deems worthy. Tampa wasn't the best team last year. Saints beat them twice. The best team lost twice in the regular season to an inferior team and wins one game in the playoffs. Best GB in Lambeau. Another scripted game. It's fun to watch though.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#126You're making excuses bruh.
The call wasn't bad because IF? You have the best RB in the NFL and you throw the ball? You're trying justify BS. The game is rigged my man. Open your eyes. Refs making the dumbest calls don't faze you? Players faking injuries, Coaches making dumb decisions, QBs throwing straight to a safety or CB, Lines not blocking, or attacking a QB, none of that matters to you? You have to be blind.
Look at my screen name. I was as die hard as it gets. If you told me years ago that the games were rigged we would have fought. But someone opened my eyes one day like Toto peeling back the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. There's no undoing that. It's tough bruh, it is. At first I was like BS. Then I researched and I was like YEP!! . No denying it anymore. I'm no longer die hard. This was years ago. Saints will never win another SB because it's rigged and the trophy is an award. Not for the best team, but the team the NFL deems worthy. Tampa wasn't the best team last year. Saints beat them twice. The best team lost twice in the regular season to an inferior team and wins one game in the playoffs. Best GB in Lambeau. Another scripted game. It's fun to watch though.
Give an example or six or just stfu and stop wasting people's time. Sports means very little big picture is actually the right take, but you can't even figure that out. You're welcome.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#127More than zero, (although XPs can only be returned for 2 points rather than a TD).
If a FG was blocked and returned for a TD it would have been a full TD rather than 2 points and the Eagles could have won...which is why the Buccaneers knelt 3 times and avoided even that slight risk.
Pull your mask down low enough so you can watch the games.Comment -
semibluffSBR MVP
- 04-12-16
- 1515
#128BS. Saints made history by returning a XP for 2pts which is basically what this would have been. 1 in thousands of opportunities. You are completely delusional. Santa and Easter Bunny still brings you gifts.
Pull your mask down low enough so you can watch the games.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#129
You are delusional if you think there's any risk in a 12 yard FG. The only way it gets blocked is if the offensive line let's a defensive player through. That's right LETS. As means fixed and rigged. Carry on blind man.Comment -
homie1975SBR Posting Legend
- 12-24-13
- 15452
#130Maybe 2. I know of one for sure. Which means it's pretty much non existent. Just like blocking an extra point.
You are delusional if you think there's any risk in a 12 yard FG. The only way it gets blocked is if the offensive line let's a defensive player through. That's right LETS. As means fixed and rigged. Carry on blind man.
Sorry u lost your wager. Let's move onComment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#131
Saints Rams 2019- no PI call
Denver Carolina SB, Cam didn't want to win
Steelers vs Seattle SB- start to finish
SB 3,Namath guarantee
Dallas vs GB 2014 Divisional gane-Dez catch
Browns Redskins fumble reverse call
I could go on but if you think none of those were rigged the NFL could come out and tell you it's rigged and you wouldn't believe it.Comment -
swordsandtequilaSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-23-12
- 9757
#132Maybe 2. I know of one for sure. Which means it's pretty much non existent. Just like blocking an extra point.
You are delusional if you think there's any risk in a 12 yard FG. The only way it gets blocked is if the offensive line let's a defensive player through. That's right LETS. As means fixed and rigged. Carry on blind man.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#133Chargers vs Steelers. Polamalu fumble return 2008
Saints Rams 2019- no PI call
Denver Carolina SB, Cam didn't want to win
Steelers vs Seattle SB- start to finish
SB 3,Namath guarantee
Dallas vs GB 2014 Divisional gane-Dez catch
Browns Redskins fumble reverse call
I could go on but if you think none of those were rigged the NFL could come out and tell you it's rigged and you wouldn't believe it.
1) Dez Bryant catch/non catch = correct according to the rule. Yes, dumb rule. Correct call.
2) Namath making a prediction. Yeah, no one does that. Both winners and losers, you only remember the time they win, especially since the dawg always does it and is expected to lose.
3) Saints Rams PI. Joke call. You can't review it though. What's more likely, a conspiracy or a ref just blows it? Obviously the latter, happens all the time and you say very little to nothing in games where you aren't emotionally invested.
4) Cam didn't want to win in SB? Come on, man. Weak.
5) Steelers Seahawks SB. Worst officiated Super Bowl by far. Your best example, as I can't explain it, but still don't claim it was rigged.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#134What would be the point in kicking a fg?!?! The game was over. Nothing gained by kicking. The extra 3 points weren't needed, the Bucs were ahead. THE GAME WAS OVER. Philly can't get the ball, unless some dumbass decides to kick a meaningless field goal, meaning a subsequent kick off. Jeezus fuk you can't be this stupid.Comment -
homie1975SBR Posting Legend
- 12-24-13
- 15452
#135Ok, I'll bite:
1) Dez Bryant catch/non catch = correct according to the rule. Yes, dumb rule. Correct call.
2) Namath making a prediction. Yeah, no one does that. Both winners and losers, you only remember the time they win, especially since the dawg always does it and is expected to lose.
3) Saints Rams PI. Joke call. You can't review it though. What's more likely, a conspiracy or a ref just blows it? Obviously the latter, happens all the time and you say very little to nothing in games where you aren't emotionally invested.
4) Cam didn't want to win in SB? Come on, man. Weak.
5) Steelers Seahawks SB. Worst officiated Super Bowl by far. Your best example, as I can't explain it, but still don't claim it was rigged.
#3: the NFL should have wanted the Saints to win because Brees vs Brady would have been a more entertaining Super Bowl and we ALL knew that BEFORE the super bowl snoozefest between the rams and the pats was even played.Comment -
homie1975SBR Posting Legend
- 12-24-13
- 15452
#136Right, you're a coach, and have two options: 100% guaranteed win, or longshot chance that you could lose somehow by doing something. The funniest part is that it's actually the opposite of what OP wants: if they actually kept going you could say that it's "rigged" precisely because they didn't have to do anything at all. Pretty funny when you really analyze it. As if they care about some broke dikk's spread bet.Comment -
TommieGunshotSBR MVP
- 03-27-12
- 1601
#137Chargers vs Steelers. Polamalu fumble return 2008
Saints Rams 2019- no PI call
Denver Carolina SB, Cam didn't want to win
Steelers vs Seattle SB- start to finish
SB 3,Namath guarantee
Dallas vs GB 2014 Divisional gane-Dez catch
Browns Redskins fumble reverse call
I could go on but if you think none of those were rigged the NFL could come out and tell you it's rigged and you wouldn't believe it.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#138Ok, I'll bite:
1) Dez Bryant catch/non catch = correct according to the rule. Yes, dumb rule. Correct call.
2) Namath making a prediction. Yeah, no one does that. Both winners and losers, you only remember the time they win, especially since the dawg always does it and is expected to lose.
3) Saints Rams PI. Joke call. You can't review it though. What's more likely, a conspiracy or a ref just blows it? Obviously the latter, happens all the time and you say very little to nothing in games where you aren't emotionally invested.
4) Cam didn't want to win in SB? Come on, man. Weak.
5) Steelers Seahawks SB. Worst officiated Super Bowl by far. Your best example, as I can't explain it, but still don't claim it was rigged.
2-NFL/AFL merger. Colts were paid to throw the game. This is what jumpstarted the nfl today. A rigged game
3- The ref was told not to throw the flag for PI. It wasn't missed call. It was deliberately making the wrong choice by doing as he was told. Video evidence.
4- Brees tears his shoulder going for a fumble, Elway puts his body at risk to win a SB and Cam Newton didn't want to go for a loose ball because he might get hurt? BS. He got paid so Manning could win #2.
5- You can't explain it, but it's not rigged? Ok
I could keep listing games, give video examples of players and officials in on the fix and you still won't believe it. You admitted it. Go research. It's out there. Good luck tomorrow with your plays.Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-17-13
- 30967
#139unless u have a monopoly on authority and/or fear if ur really in the business of changing minds u need a timeline, a revelation of the method. otherwise trying to get someone to do 180 degree turns is practically impossible. things believed are held fast by time, emotion, and ego.Last edited by jtoler; 10-16-21, 12:48 PM.Comment -
Saintsfan1977SBR High Roller
- 01-10-11
- 146
#140unless u have a monopoly on authority and/or fear if ur really in the business of changing minds u need a timeline, a revelation of the method. otherwise trying to get someone to do 180 degree turns is practically impossible. things believed are held fast by emotion, time, and ego.
Then go watch Maholmes Td run vs Baltimore in the AFCCG. This is how you know the players are in on it. They don't even try to tackle him. Of course it was just chalked up to Maholmes athletic ability and the Lbs taking bad angles. It's BS. These are pros. They aren't making elementary mistakes. Especially if you can find an overhead view, you'll really see how fake it is.Comment
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