Ronald Jones Over 47.5 Yards Rushing / -129.0 units
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JacketFan81SBR MVP
- 10-28-17
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#736Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 65568
#743You know why Corky here is such a loser.
Because he doesn't do any homework or research to back up his incredible sting of stupid, downright idiotic statements he makes and tries to pass of as facts and he knows what he's talking about.
You're trying to tell the world that D'Andre Swift is not a three down running back because he only has 15 rush attempts a game.
You don't know the very definition of the term 'three down back'
A three down running back is a running back that is on the field 75 percent or near 75 percent of the offensive snaps.
This is how math works, if you are on the field three out of four offensive snaps, or downs if you will, you are a three down running back.
Fourth down is always considered an offensive snap, punt or fake punt or field goal attempt so no running back will ever be on the field 100 percent of the snaps.
Now the fun part.
The part where I once again prove to you and the entire world you don't know what you are talking about, and how you pass of your stupid opinions as facts.
The part where your stupid opinions get disproved again as trash.
Based on your definition of a three down back Swift isn't because he only rushes the ball 15 times a game.
Taylor only averages 17.5 rush attempts per game, so I guess he isn't a three down back too?
Here's the top ten running backs listed in order in offensive snaps.
You know, how many downs they're on the field for.
Take a look at Taylor and Swifts receiving targets and receptions.
Swift and Jonathan Taylor are the best running back pass receivers in the NFL.
Swift leads the NFL is targets for a back, receptions, and yardage.
He rushes only 15 times because the rest of the time on the field he's a receiver.
Taylor only rushes 17.5 times a game because he's a receiver.
But they're not three down backs in your opinion when facts prove other wise.
So...
You want to debate this some more with me.
OK, all day, everyday.
Rules are stick to the topic on hand, use facts only in your debate.
First time you digress or use the term 'dumb shit' or any other pejorative you're DQ'ed and I win. Again.
Remember, I'm not only a superior statistical analyst you're going to debate with, but I'm an asshole too to go with my geeky, nerdy, math degree.
Here are the shocking numbers Corky.
Who's a three down back?
Snaps Rushing Receiving RK Name Team OFF OFF% ST ST% TOT ATT YDS TD TAR REC YDS TD 1 Najee Harris PIT 559 84.95 0 0 559 188 685 5 62 49 337 2 2 Ezekiel Elliott DAL 463 67.3 0 0 463 151 695 7 38 32 204 1 3 D'Andre Swift DET 452 71.97 0 0 452 137 555 4 67 53 420 2 4 Jonathan Taylor IND 436 63.01 0 0 436 193 1122 13 38 32 322 2 5 Austin Ekeler LAC 428 66.56 0 0 428 123 573 7 58 45 405 6 6 Darrell Henderson LAR 419 74.82 0 0 419 126 593 5 34 23 154 2 7 Patrick Ricard BAL 411 58.22 49 17.01 460 2 4 0 10 6 54 1 8 Myles Gaskin MIA 403 57.33 4 1.35 407 123 433 1 52 41 209 4 9 Joe Mixon CIN 401 65.85 0 0 401 180 759 9 26 22 194 2 10 Derrick Henry TEN 392 71.53 0 0 392 219 937 10 20 18 154 0 Comment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-24-10
- 25850
#744You know why Corky here is such a loser.
Because he doesn't do any homework or research to back up his incredible sting of stupid, downright idiotic statements he makes and tries to pass of as facts and he knows what he's talking about.
You're trying to tell the world that D'Andre Swift is not a three down running back because he only has 15 rush attempts a game.
You don't know the very definition of the term 'three down back'
A three down running back is a running back that is on the field 75 percent or near 75 percent of the offensive snaps.
This is how math works, if you are on the field three out of four offensive snaps, or downs if you will, you are a three down running back.
Fourth down is always considered an offensive snap, punt or fake punt or field goal attempt so no running back will ever be on the field 100 percent of the snaps.
Now the fun part.
The part where I once again prove to you and the entire world you don't know what you are talking about, and how you pass of your stupid opinions as facts.
The part where your stupid opinions get disproved again as trash.
Based on your definition of a three down back Swift isn't because he only rushes the ball 15 times a game.
Taylor only averages 17.5 rush attempts per game, so I guess he isn't a three down back too?
Here's the top ten running backs listed in order in offensive snaps.
You know, how many downs they're on the field for.
Take a look at Taylor and Swifts receiving targets and receptions.
Swift and Jonathan Taylor are the best running back pass receivers in the NFL.
Swift leads the NFL is targets for a back, receptions, and yardage.
He rushes only 15 times because the rest of the time on the field he's a receiver.
Taylor only rushes 17.5 times a game because he's a receiver.
But they're not three down backs in your opinion when facts prove other wise.
So...
You want to debate this some more with me.
OK, all day, everyday.
Rules are stick to the topic on hand, use facts only in your debate.
First time you digress or use the term 'dumb shit' or any other pejorative you're DQ'ed and I win. Again.
Remember, I'm not only a superior statistical analyst you're going to debate with, but I'm an asshole too to go with my geeky, nerdy, math degree.
Here are the shocking numbers Corky.
Who's a three down back?
Snaps Rushing Receiving RK Name Team OFF OFF% ST ST% TOT ATT YDS TD TAR REC YDS TD 1 Najee Harris PIT 559 84.95 0 0 559 188 685 5 62 49 337 2 2 Ezekiel Elliott DAL 463 67.3 0 0 463 151 695 7 38 32 204 1 3 D'Andre Swift DET 452 71.97 0 0 452 137 555 4 67 53 420 2 4 Jonathan Taylor IND 436 63.01 0 0 436 193 1122 13 38 32 322 2 5 Austin Ekeler LAC 428 66.56 0 0 428 123 573 7 58 45 405 6 6 Darrell Henderson LAR 419 74.82 0 0 419 126 593 5 34 23 154 2 7 Patrick Ricard BAL 411 58.22 49 17.01 460 2 4 0 10 6 54 1 8 Myles Gaskin MIA 403 57.33 4 1.35 407 123 433 1 52 41 209 4 9 Joe Mixon CIN 401 65.85 0 0 401 180 759 9 26 22 194 2 10 Derrick Henry TEN 392 71.53 0 0 392 219 937 10 20 18 154 0 Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-09-14
- 9853
#745Agree hands down. Even Antonio Gibson is a better pass catching back than Swift, but has Smooches McKissic taking targets. If Barkley is healthy, and had a check down king like Jared Goff at QB, he’d be tier 1 as well.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 65568
#746
But the argument is Swift is a three down back.
CMC is the best receiving back, by far, but DQ'ed from this debate because of injury earlier in the season.
Kamara and Swift are behind CMC in my opinion.
Swift is a top three receiving back in the NFL, based on eye test and numbers/
The debate is, he claims Swift is not a three down back.
He is, he's on the field almost every time Stafford takes a snap.
Numbers say so, and he can't disprove that.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 65568
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stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 65568
#748If you want to play the eye test, opinion only game Matt Forte was the greatest pass receiving running back I've ever seen.
But stay on topic, is Swift three down back?
Yes, or no?Comment -
trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-09-14
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trobin31SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-09-14
- 9853
#750Swift reminds me a lot of L’veon BellComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 65568
#751Snap counts, and snap count percentages say Swift is on the field every first three downs Detroit has the ball.
That's the definition. Three downs. Cut and dried.
The data backs this up, he's a three down back.
Forte in his prime when he was in Chicago was the same back Bell in his prime when he was in Pittsburgh.
Both the data and the eye test backs that up.
I used to love watching Bell run in his prime too.
Forte never dropped a pass, the guy was a machine.
I just went to the database.
Forte in his seven year consecutive prime averaged 7 targets a game, 6.2 of them were caught for receptions for a ten yard gain.
Think about that, how many running backs can average 10 yards per carry?
OK, it was a pass usually in the flats or something out of the backfield, but every time that happens it's ten yards.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
- 45842
#753You know why Corky here is such a loser.
Because he doesn't do any homework or research to back up his incredible sting of stupid, downright idiotic statements he makes and tries to pass of as facts and he knows what he's talking about.
You're trying to tell the world that D'Andre Swift is not a three down running back because he only has 15 rush attempts a game.
You don't know the very definition of the term 'three down back'
A three down running back is a running back that is on the field 75 percent or near 75 percent of the offensive snaps.
This is how math works, if you are on the field three out of four offensive snaps, or downs if you will, you are a three down running back.
Fourth down is always considered an offensive snap, punt or fake punt or field goal attempt so no running back will ever be on the field 100 percent of the snaps.
Now the fun part.
The part where I once again prove to you and the entire world you don't know what you are talking about, and how you pass of your stupid opinions as facts.
The part where your stupid opinions get disproved again as trash.
Based on your definition of a three down back Swift isn't because he only rushes the ball 15 times a game.
Taylor only averages 17.5 rush attempts per game, so I guess he isn't a three down back too?
Here's the top ten running backs listed in order in offensive snaps.
You know, how many downs they're on the field for.
Take a look at Taylor and Swifts receiving targets and receptions.
Swift and Jonathan Taylor are the best running back pass receivers in the NFL.
Swift leads the NFL is targets for a back, receptions, and yardage.
He rushes only 15 times because the rest of the time on the field he's a receiver.
Taylor only rushes 17.5 times a game because he's a receiver.
But they're not three down backs in your opinion when facts prove other wise.
So...
You want to debate this some more with me.
OK, all day, everyday.
Rules are stick to the topic on hand, use facts only in your debate.
First time you digress or use the term 'dumb shit' or any other pejorative you're DQ'ed and I win. Again.
Remember, I'm not only a superior statistical analyst you're going to debate with, but I'm an asshole too to go with my geeky, nerdy, math degree.
Here are the shocking numbers Corky.
Who's a three down back?
Snaps Rushing Receiving RK Name Team OFF OFF% ST ST% TOT ATT YDS TD TAR REC YDS TD 1 Najee Harris PIT 559 84.95 0 0 559 188 685 5 62 49 337 2 2 Ezekiel Elliott DAL 463 67.3 0 0 463 151 695 7 38 32 204 1 3 D'Andre Swift DET 452 71.97 0 0 452 137 555 4 67 53 420 2 4 Jonathan Taylor IND 436 63.01 0 0 436 193 1122 13 38 32 322 2 5 Austin Ekeler LAC 428 66.56 0 0 428 123 573 7 58 45 405 6 6 Darrell Henderson LAR 419 74.82 0 0 419 126 593 5 34 23 154 2 7 Patrick Ricard BAL 411 58.22 49 17.01 460 2 4 0 10 6 54 1 8 Myles Gaskin MIA 403 57.33 4 1.35 407 123 433 1 52 41 209 4 9 Joe Mixon CIN 401 65.85 0 0 401 180 759 9 26 22 194 2 10 Derrick Henry TEN 392 71.53 0 0 392 219 937 10 20 18 154 0
But the argument is Swift is a three down back.
CMC is the best receiving back, by far, but DQ'ed from this debate because of injury earlier in the season.
Kamara and Swift are behind CMC in my opinion.
Swift is a top three receiving back in the NFL, based on eye test and numbers/
The debate is, he claims Swift is not a three down back.
He is, he's on the field almost every time Stafford takes a snap.
Numbers say so, and he can't disprove that.
Snap counts, and snap count percentages say Swift is on the field every first three downs Detroit has the ball.
That's the definition. Three downs. Cut and dried.
The data backs this up, he's a three down back.
Forte in his prime when he was in Chicago was the same back Bell in his prime when he was in Pittsburgh.
Both the data and the eye test backs that up.
I used to love watching Bell run in his prime too.
Forte never dropped a pass, the guy was a machine.
I just went to the database.
Forte in his seven year consecutive prime averaged 7 targets a game, 6.2 of them were caught for receptions for a ten yard gain.
Think about that, how many running backs can average 10 yards per carry?
OK, it was a pass usually in the flats or something out of the backfield, but every time that happens it's ten yards.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
- 45842
#754Swift is not a three down back and the bigger point here dumb shit Nash doesn't understand is that the distinction between full time and part time backs isn't snap count it's usage. Swift has gotten less than 15 carries in half the game he has played in, he's not a fulltime back at all.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
- 45842
#755Matt Forte was nowher near as good as faulk or Kamara as a refeivingrunning back. Just stop you dumb shit.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#757David Montgomery over 80.5 yards rushing -114
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thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#758Ezekiel Elliot over 62.5 yards rushing -117
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unlearnSBR Hall of Famer
- 03-22-14
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#760Thanks for the fades. God blessComment -
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#764Marathon Lattimore over 3.5 tackles -135 risking 7 units to win 5.18Comment -
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- 06-01-17
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#765Matt Milano over 6.5 tackles -115 risking 5.75 units to win 5Comment -
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#767Hes super unhinged LOL. desperation indeed nowComment -
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#769-135, -115it begins!!!
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