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  • MrSink
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    • 12-30-08
    • 8087

    #36
    the thing is that they are in playoffs without giannis playing single game this season
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #37
      Bucks will have best record East men
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      • dlowilly
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        • 11-09-16
        • 13862

        #38
        Originally posted by MrSink
        the thing is that they are in playoffs without giannis playing single game this season
        I don't know why people keep saying this

        NBA playoffs go by overall record not place in their division for playoff birth

        Bledsoe, Middleton, Matthews, Korver, Lopez starting 5 is average if that
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        • rm18
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          • 09-20-05
          • 22291

          #39
          They would not win 30 without Giannis
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          • dlowilly
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            • 11-09-16
            • 13862

            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Bucks will have best record East men
            Maybe you missed the part about the bet paying 83-1

            Quick, go bet on some Paul George game props for tonight

            If you can't find any I'll offer you some
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            • MrSink
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              • 12-30-08
              • 8087

              #41
              Originally posted by dlowilly
              I don't know why people keep saying this

              NBA playoffs go by overall record not place in their division for playoff birth

              Bledsoe, Middleton, Matthews, Korver, Lopez starting 5 is average if that
              it is enough man . east is weak . add good coach also
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              • milwaukee mike
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                • 08-22-07
                • 26914

                #42
                Originally posted by dlowilly
                I don't know why people keep saying this

                NBA playoffs go by overall record not place in their division for playoff birth

                Bledsoe, Middleton, Matthews, Korver, Lopez starting 5 is average if that
                that is average? the next best team in the division (pacers) has myles turner/brogdon/domantas sabonis/tj warren/lamb
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                • dlowilly
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                  • 11-09-16
                  • 13862

                  #43
                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                  that is average? the next best team in the division (pacers) has myles turner/brogdon/domantas sabonis/tj warren/lamb
                  Once again, division doesn't matter. In the NBA the winner of a crap division doesn't necessarily go to the playoffs

                  Also, Oladipo should be back in a couple months
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                  • lonegambler23
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                    • 06-22-16
                    • 9761

                    #44
                    over rated team, no idea how theyre even good. losing mirotic big and that was when they had them i thought this too. sharp bet
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                    • shocka1212
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                      • 10-06-12
                      • 16788

                      #45
                      Originally posted by IBetYou
                      So you're betting he suffers season ending injury before Xmas 40-1, and assuming that's enough for them to miss the playoffs.
                      Lmao just read it out loud a few times. Gets dumber every time
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                      • Art Vandelay
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                        • 09-11-06
                        • 6678

                        #46
                        If you're going to throw money on that Bucks wager, why not take the Lakers NOT to make the playoffs. West is tougher, LeBron is obviously older - could easily get hurt, AD has had recent injuries. There are other teams that would give you decent odds as well that have a much better chance of missing the postseason than Milwaukee.
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                        • dlowilly
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                          • 11-09-16
                          • 13862

                          #47
                          Originally posted by shocka1212
                          Lmao just read it out loud a few times. Gets dumber every time
                          Dumb is laughing at made up stuff instead of paying attention to the thread ur posting in

                          >>>>>>>>>>>>+8250<<<<<<<<<<<<
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                          • dlowilly
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                            • 11-09-16
                            • 13862

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                            If you're going to throw money on that Bucks wager, why not take the Lakers NOT to make the playoffs. West is tougher, LeBron is obviously older - could easily get hurt, AD has had recent injuries. There are other teams that would give you decent odds as well that have a much better chance of missing the postseason than Milwaukee.
                            It's dependent on the odds

                            If I could find +600 or so for Lakers not to make playoffs I would bet that as well
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                            • Art Vandelay
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                              • 09-11-06
                              • 6678

                              #49
                              Originally posted by lonegambler23
                              over rated team, no idea how theyre even good. losing mirotic big and that was when they had them i thought this too. sharp bet
                              Ha! Better brush up on your Bucks "knowledge". Losing Mirotic was nothing, he did next to nothing when it counted in the postseason, didn't even attempt to resign him. The biggest loss is Brogdon which hurts, but Mathews should be adequate. Plus added Robin Lopez & Korver. Won 60 last season and the roster this season is as good if not better. Overrated? LOL
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                              • IBetYou
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                                • 07-03-15
                                • 8149

                                #50
                                Cameroon's answer to Giannis, P.Siakam to win MVP: 100-1

                                God damn superstaw
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                                • milwaukee mike
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                                  • 08-22-07
                                  • 26914

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                  Once again, division doesn't matter. In the NBA the winner of a crap division doesn't necessarily go to the playoffs

                                  Also, Oladipo should be back in a couple months
                                  how is a division winner in the east not gonna make the playoffs? you really think 8 of the other 10 teams are getting in? that would have to include charlotte, the wizards, or the knicks and every other team not in the central
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                                  • dj_destroyer
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-28-10
                                    • 3856

                                    #52
                                    Would need injury in the next week or two. I'd say the odds of Giannis getting injured in the next week or two is about 50 to 1 but there's a lot of other variables as well (namely the possibility of winning games without Giannis). You may be +EV but not by much. The saving grace is not tying up actual funds for this.
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                                    • dlowilly
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                                      • 11-09-16
                                      • 13862

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                      how is a division winner in the east not gonna make the playoffs? you really think 8 of the other 10 teams are getting in? that would have to include charlotte, the wizards, or the knicks and every other team not in the central
                                      I know but some of you guys keep bringing up divisions which are irrelevant when it comes to the playoffs.

                                      I'm not sitting here saying this is about to happen I'm just saying it's a long shot but not an 82.5 to 1 longshot
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                                      • dlowilly
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                                        • 11-09-16
                                        • 13862

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                        Would need injury in the next week or two. I'd say the odds of Giannis getting injured in the next week or two is about 50 to 1 but there's a lot of other variables as well (namely the possibility of winning games without Giannis). You may be +EV but not by much. The saving grace is not tying up actual funds for this.
                                        Absolutely, wouldn't do it otherwise

                                        Another saving grace is these season long futures bets keep me from needing to bet daily
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                                        • Bostongambler
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                                          • 02-01-08
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                                          #55
                                          I would of given you twice those odds , dlow
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                                          • dlowilly
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                                            • 11-09-16
                                            • 13862

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                            I would of given you twice those odds , dlow
                                            Ok, 10 points Bucks don't make the playoffs this year to win your 1650? Bet?
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                                            • milwaukee mike
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                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by dlowilly
                                              I know but some of you guys keep bringing up divisions which are irrelevant when it comes to the playoffs.

                                              I'm not sitting here saying this is about to happen I'm just saying it's a long shot but not an 82.5 to 1 longshot
                                              yeah i hear you... make a bet like this 82 times and you probably hit at least 1 of them

                                              like illinois over wisconsin last week at 100-1
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                                              • asiagambler
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                                                • 07-23-17
                                                • 6831

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                Not sure what ur trying to say with this link
                                                What I'm trying to say is that books "not offering +ev bets on either side with these futures bets" is an antiquated notion

                                                This market has very little depth. These aren't NFL season win totals.

                                                How many people do you think even bet this market? 5? 10? Pinnacle (or whoever your local jacked these lines from) isn't sweating this bet. Sure, they could get hurt a little if it actually wins but they're more more than fine just collecting dead money on the longshot
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                                                • RedApples
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-02-18
                                                  • 721

                                                  #59
                                                  Love the bet. Don't expect it to hit, but can't fault you for playing that number. 1 in 80 times they miss? Yeah, I could see that. Good luck
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                                                  • dlowilly
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                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                    • 13862

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                    What I'm trying to say is that books "not offering +ev bets on either side with these futures bets" is an antiquated notion

                                                    This market has very little depth. These aren't NFL season win totals.

                                                    How many people do you think even bet this market? 5? 10? Pinnacle (or whoever your local jacked these lines from) isn't sweating this bet. Sure, they could get hurt a little if it actually wins but they're more more than fine just collecting dead money on the longshot
                                                    Did you miss the post about the Vegas Knights and Leicester City?

                                                    Longshots do hit, people bet them, and the bookie better be damn sure they aren't offering +ev bets on them. If a casino offered 40 to 1 on a roulette number how do you think they would end up? I assure you, $16,500 will hurt my local, and $200 won't hurt me.
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                                                    • asiagambler
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                                                      • 07-23-17
                                                      • 6831

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                      Did you miss the post about the Vegas Knights and Leicester City?

                                                      Longshots do hit, people bet them, and the bookie better be damn sure they aren't offering +ev bets on them. If a casino offered 40 to 1 on a roulette number how do you think they would end up? I assure you, $16,500 will hurt my local, and $200 won't hurt me.
                                                      Vegas and Leicester City have nothing to do with this bet. Is that your rationale for making this bet? That longshots in completely unrelated events have hit before?

                                                      Whether $16,500 hurts your local is irrelevant. Your local just runs a pph site that copies lines from pinnacle or some other large book
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                                                      • thomorino
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                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                        Once again, division doesn't matter. In the NBA the winner of a crap division doesn't necessarily go to the playoffs

                                                        Also, Oladipo should be back in a couple months
                                                        Divisional winners aren't guaranteed seedimg but they do Make the playoffs. Indiana is bad amd oladipo is always hurt.
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                                                        • thomorino
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                                                          • 06-01-17
                                                          • 45842

                                                          #63
                                                          Milwaukee is built for the regular season deep and young. Teams that struggle in the regular season are usually older teams with injury issues. There's no reason to think a young talented Milwaukee team won't make the playoffs.

                                                          The bucks division also dictates much of their schedule , which will be very easy since the division is trash.
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                                                          • dlowilly
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                                                            • 11-09-16
                                                            • 13862

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                                            Divisional winners aren't guaranteed seedimg but they do Make the playoffs. Indiana is bad amd oladipo is always hurt.
                                                            No, pretty sure it's the best 8 records from each conference regardless of who wins their division
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                                                            • dlowilly
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-09-16
                                                              • 13862

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                              Vegas and Leicester City have nothing to do with this bet. Is that your rationale for making this bet? That longshots in completely unrelated events have hit before?

                                                              Whether $16,500 hurts your local is irrelevant. Your local just runs a pph site that copies lines from pinnacle or some other large book
                                                              No, my rationale for making the bet is the number offered. Your rationale for why you think those odds were offered is they are "more than fine just collecting dead money on a longshot", so I gave you two recent examples of longshots not being dead money.

                                                              The point is, you seem to keep claiming the book(s) knew what they were doing when these odds were offered and I made a bad bet. What is in it for a PPH site to offer +ev odds without collecting up front? How about just admit that my local has the worst of it here and I made a good bet?
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                                                              • dlowilly
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                                                                • 11-09-16
                                                                • 13862

                                                                #66
                                                                I already know what will happen in this thread

                                                                The longshot won't hit and the trolls will say, "I told you so!"

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                                                                • asiagambler
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                                                                  • 07-23-17
                                                                  • 6831

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                  No, my rationale for making the bet is the number offered. Your rationale for why you think those odds were offered is they are "more than fine just collecting dead money on a longshot", so I gave you two recent examples of longshots not being dead money.

                                                                  The point is, you seem to keep claiming the book(s) knew what they were doing when these odds were offered and I made a bad bet. What is in it for a PPH site to offer +ev odds without collecting up front? How about just admit that my local has the worst of it here and I made a good bet?
                                                                  Two examples don't mean anything!

                                                                  Do you want me to give you thousands of examples where they didn't hit? I'm fairly certain they outweigh the ones that do

                                                                  PPH sites don't know anything. That's kind of my point. They're just guys that are looking to profit off people because bookmaking is a profitable business. Most people lose.

                                                                  Longshot futures bets such as these are frequently shaded towards the underdog, not the favourite for reasons I've already explained

                                                                  Regardless of that fact, you did make a bad bet. I've made my case why and your reasoning hasn't been convincing as far as I am concerned. There are some people in this thread that agree with you, however
                                                                  Last edited by asiagambler; 10-23-19, 06:12 PM.
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                                                                  • asiagambler
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                                                                    • 07-23-17
                                                                    • 6831

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                    I already know what will happen in this thread

                                                                    The longshot won't hit and the trolls will say, "I told you so!"

                                                                    Well I'm not a troll so you won't find me in this thread after today

                                                                    But being one of the most blatantly racist people on this site, I'd say you bring a lot of the trolling on yourself
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                                                                    • Art Vandelay
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                                                                      • 09-11-06
                                                                      • 6678

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                      No, pretty sure it's the best 8 records from each conference regardless of who wins their division
                                                                      You are correct. To set this straight:

                                                                      "A division winner was still guaranteed at least a No. 4 seed until the 2016 playoffs. Now the top team in a division is not guaranteed to make the playoffs at all — the top eight teams from each conference advance to the postseason regardless of division alignment."

                                                                      That said, hard to imagine a division winner not being in the top 8 in record, but I guess it could happen.
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                                                                      • dlowilly
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                                                                        • 11-09-16
                                                                        • 13862

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                                        Well I'm not a troll so you won't find me in this thread after today

                                                                        But being one of the most blatantly racist people on this site, I'd say you bring a lot of the trolling on yourself
                                                                        And there it is! The reason for the butthurt posting!

                                                                        Asiagambler: Books love collecting dead money on longshots, and pphs don't know anything. You made a bad bet

                                                                        Me: Longshots aren't dead money (Vegas Knights, Leicester City) and I bet it on a pph site.

                                                                        Asiagambler: Racist!


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