the thing is that they are in playoffs without giannis playing single game this season
Bucks not to make playoffs
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MrSinkSBR Hall of Famer
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#37Bucks will have best record East menComment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#38
NBA playoffs go by overall record not place in their division for playoff birth
Bledsoe, Middleton, Matthews, Korver, Lopez starting 5 is average if thatComment -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
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#39They would not win 30 without GiannisComment -
MrSinkSBR Hall of Famer
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milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#42that is average? the next best team in the division (pacers) has myles turner/brogdon/domantas sabonis/tj warren/lambComment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#43
Also, Oladipo should be back in a couple monthsComment -
lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer
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#44over rated team, no idea how theyre even good. losing mirotic big and that was when they had them i thought this too. sharp betComment -
Art VandelaySBR Hall of Famer
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#46If you're going to throw money on that Bucks wager, why not take the Lakers NOT to make the playoffs. West is tougher, LeBron is obviously older - could easily get hurt, AD has had recent injuries. There are other teams that would give you decent odds as well that have a much better chance of missing the postseason than Milwaukee.Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#48If you're going to throw money on that Bucks wager, why not take the Lakers NOT to make the playoffs. West is tougher, LeBron is obviously older - could easily get hurt, AD has had recent injuries. There are other teams that would give you decent odds as well that have a much better chance of missing the postseason than Milwaukee.
If I could find +600 or so for Lakers not to make playoffs I would bet that as wellComment -
Art VandelaySBR Hall of Famer
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#49Ha! Better brush up on your Bucks "knowledge". Losing Mirotic was nothing, he did next to nothing when it counted in the postseason, didn't even attempt to resign him. The biggest loss is Brogdon which hurts, but Mathews should be adequate. Plus added Robin Lopez & Korver. Won 60 last season and the roster this season is as good if not better. Overrated? LOLComment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
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#50Cameroon's answer to Giannis, P.Siakam to win MVP: 100-1
God damn superstawComment -
milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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dj_destroyerSBR MVP
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#52Would need injury in the next week or two. I'd say the odds of Giannis getting injured in the next week or two is about 50 to 1 but there's a lot of other variables as well (namely the possibility of winning games without Giannis). You may be +EV but not by much. The saving grace is not tying up actual funds for this.Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#53
I'm not sitting here saying this is about to happen I'm just saying it's a long shot but not an 82.5 to 1 longshotComment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#54Would need injury in the next week or two. I'd say the odds of Giannis getting injured in the next week or two is about 50 to 1 but there's a lot of other variables as well (namely the possibility of winning games without Giannis). You may be +EV but not by much. The saving grace is not tying up actual funds for this.
Another saving grace is these season long futures bets keep me from needing to bet dailyComment -
BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#55I would of given you twice those odds , dlowComment -
milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#57
like illinois over wisconsin last week at 100-1Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#58What I'm trying to say is that books "not offering +ev bets on either side with these futures bets" is an antiquated notion
This market has very little depth. These aren't NFL season win totals.
How many people do you think even bet this market? 5? 10? Pinnacle (or whoever your local jacked these lines from) isn't sweating this bet. Sure, they could get hurt a little if it actually wins but they're more more than fine just collecting dead money on the longshotComment -
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#59Love the bet. Don't expect it to hit, but can't fault you for playing that number. 1 in 80 times they miss? Yeah, I could see that. Good luckComment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#60What I'm trying to say is that books "not offering +ev bets on either side with these futures bets" is an antiquated notion
This market has very little depth. These aren't NFL season win totals.
How many people do you think even bet this market? 5? 10? Pinnacle (or whoever your local jacked these lines from) isn't sweating this bet. Sure, they could get hurt a little if it actually wins but they're more more than fine just collecting dead money on the longshot
Longshots do hit, people bet them, and the bookie better be damn sure they aren't offering +ev bets on them. If a casino offered 40 to 1 on a roulette number how do you think they would end up? I assure you, $16,500 will hurt my local, and $200 won't hurt me.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#61Did you miss the post about the Vegas Knights and Leicester City?
Longshots do hit, people bet them, and the bookie better be damn sure they aren't offering +ev bets on them. If a casino offered 40 to 1 on a roulette number how do you think they would end up? I assure you, $16,500 will hurt my local, and $200 won't hurt me.
Whether $16,500 hurts your local is irrelevant. Your local just runs a pph site that copies lines from pinnacle or some other large bookComment -
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#62Divisional winners aren't guaranteed seedimg but they do Make the playoffs. Indiana is bad amd oladipo is always hurt.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#63Milwaukee is built for the regular season deep and young. Teams that struggle in the regular season are usually older teams with injury issues. There's no reason to think a young talented Milwaukee team won't make the playoffs.
The bucks division also dictates much of their schedule , which will be very easy since the division is trash.Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#65Vegas and Leicester City have nothing to do with this bet. Is that your rationale for making this bet? That longshots in completely unrelated events have hit before?
Whether $16,500 hurts your local is irrelevant. Your local just runs a pph site that copies lines from pinnacle or some other large book
The point is, you seem to keep claiming the book(s) knew what they were doing when these odds were offered and I made a bad bet. What is in it for a PPH site to offer +ev odds without collecting up front? How about just admit that my local has the worst of it here and I made a good bet?Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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#66I already know what will happen in this thread
The longshot won't hit and the trolls will say, "I told you so!"
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asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#67No, my rationale for making the bet is the number offered. Your rationale for why you think those odds were offered is they are "more than fine just collecting dead money on a longshot", so I gave you two recent examples of longshots not being dead money.
The point is, you seem to keep claiming the book(s) knew what they were doing when these odds were offered and I made a bad bet. What is in it for a PPH site to offer +ev odds without collecting up front? How about just admit that my local has the worst of it here and I made a good bet?
Do you want me to give you thousands of examples where they didn't hit? I'm fairly certain they outweigh the ones that do
PPH sites don't know anything. That's kind of my point. They're just guys that are looking to profit off people because bookmaking is a profitable business. Most people lose.
Longshot futures bets such as these are frequently shaded towards the underdog, not the favourite for reasons I've already explained
Regardless of that fact, you did make a bad bet. I've made my case why and your reasoning hasn't been convincing as far as I am concerned. There are some people in this thread that agree with you, howeverLast edited by asiagambler; 10-23-19, 06:12 PM.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#68
But being one of the most blatantly racist people on this site, I'd say you bring a lot of the trolling on yourselfComment -
Art VandelaySBR Hall of Famer
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#69
"A division winner was still guaranteed at least a No. 4 seed until the 2016 playoffs. Now the top team in a division is not guaranteed to make the playoffs at all — the top eight teams from each conference advance to the postseason regardless of division alignment."
That said, hard to imagine a division winner not being in the top 8 in record, but I guess it could happen.Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
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Asiagambler: Books love collecting dead money on longshots, and pphs don't know anything. You made a bad bet
Me: Longshots aren't dead money (Vegas Knights, Leicester City) and I bet it on a pph site.
Asiagambler: Racist!
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