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  • MinnesotaFats
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    • 12-18-10
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    #246
    Originally posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj
    Your knowledge to discern what actually makes a good quarterback seems on par with your knowledge to post a working hyperlink....
    Yeah...

    This is for career btw- pretty good company

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    • BiTeMe UsAdOj
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      • 08-18-11
      • 7537

      #247
      ^^ My original statement stands; to quote Mr. Clemens: "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
      One has to look beyond mere stats and... (wait for it)... actually possess KNOWLEDGE of the game to easily recognize that Cousins is slightly better than a so-so quarterback (and in intangibles, HE BLOWS).
      Extrapolating your weak argument for Cousins, THE BEEBS is the greatest thing on the music scene right now: NUMBER 1 OVERALL RANKING!!!! (from a Bloomberg article earlier this year) -- hell, forget going to see The Stones @ Allegiant this November... let's all pay to see the beeb's concert... he's the current MUSICAL MVP... HOLLA!

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      • Git Lo
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        • 02-20-11
        • 3785

        #248
        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
        Yeah...

        This is for career btw- pretty good company

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        dak has 4 less years and is ranked higher, everyone else above him have won atleast a ring but hes not any of those guys
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        • MalikHusam
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          • 09-07-16
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          #249
          If 'hawks win this, I nominate Geno Smith for MVP
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          • MinnesotaFats
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            • 12-18-10
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            #250
            Originally posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj
            ^^ My original statement stands; to quote Mr. Clemens: "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
            One has to look beyond mere stats and... (wait for it)... actually possess KNOWLEDGE of the game to easily recognize that Cousins is slightly better than a so-so quarterback (and in intangibles, HE BLOWS).
            Extrapolating your weak argument for Cousins, THE BEEBS is the greatest thing on the music scene right now: NUMBER 1 OVERALL RANKING!!!! (from a Bloomberg article earlier this year) -- hell, forget going to see The Stones @ Allegiant this November... let's all pay to see the beeb's concert... he's the current MUSICAL MVP... HOLLA!

            What's wrong w Beibers music? I like his beats, like to dance & the chicks love him too.

            The Stones...dude, one guy just died lol

            This ain't 1984 anymore man- Stones are embarrassing themselves.

            Music, btw, is art. It's preference held in the ear of the listener.

            Sports is stats. QB play is stats.

            It is NOT about rings. If it were, then Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco & Doug Williams would be the highest paid or considered all time greats...and guys like Rivers, Marino, Romo, Tarkenton, Fouts, Kelly, etc would be considered nobodies.

            Cousins is going into the HOF guys, he's going to play to 41 or so and be top 5 all time in rating, completion % and top 10 in yards, tds, completions, games started and lowest INT rate.

            This, btw, while consistently being top 10 in yards per completion!
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            • Git Lo
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              • 02-20-11
              • 3785

              #251
              Joe Flacco has a ring and no one talks about him, Kirk cousins can one win and we would prob forget about him too. See what I did there? What point are you making? Good stats usually translate to good records and/or ring(s).
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              • MinnesotaFats
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                • 12-18-10
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                #252
                Originally posted by Git Lo
                Joe Flacco has a ring and no one talks about him, Kirk cousins can one win and we would prob forget about him too. See what I did there? What point are you making? Good stats usually translate to good records and/or ring(s).
                No, they don't lol

                Rings are a tram effort. In football, they are usually a defensive effort.

                Stats are stats. You either make the the throws or you don't.

                There's only 15 dudes in the world that play a competent QB annually....only 1 will get a ring.
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                • BiTeMe UsAdOj
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                  • 08-18-11
                  • 7537

                  #253
                  MinnesotaFats;
                  What's wrong w Beibers music
                  (insert McEnroe's "you can't be serious" gif here)



                  Music, btw, is art. It's preference held in the ear of the listener.
                  Sports is stats. QB play is stats.
                  Uh... the chart I posted WAS based on stats, it wasn't someone's opinion poll, as you're implying. It was based on quantifiable stats (sales, instagram/YT stats, etc.). It wasn't subjective. But that wasn't the overall point, anyway. Big Picture Point was: any ranking that has Beiber as #1 in today's music, and any ranking that has Cousins ranked HIGHER than both Peyton & Brady... well, anyone with actual KNOWLEDGE would understand that those rankings are but a small piece of info into properly assessing actual quality.

                  It is NOT about rings....
                  I never said it was... so??? Altho, rings are certainly a consideration in the overall picture, obviously.

                  Cousins is going into the HOF guys....
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                  • swordsandtequila
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                    • 02-23-12
                    • 9757

                    #254
                    Vikings are 26-25-1 in the 4 years Cousins has been the starter. The quarterback he replaced was 13-3. Case fukn' Keenum. Both with Zimmer, Thielen, Diggs. Keenum had Latavius Murray, Cousins has Dalvin Cook. Jefferson replaced Diggs. So roughly the same quality weapons. He's a good quarterback, not great, damn sure not elite. In crunch time he's nothing special. He's a compiler, the Rafael Palmiero of the NFL.
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                    • MinnesotaFats
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                      • 12-18-10
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                      #255
                      Palmero is one of what....3 dudes over w 3000 hits & 500 homers

                      Compiler or not, he's a HOFr (except for that lying to Congress thing lol)
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                      • stevenash
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                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65433

                        #256
                        Originally posted by MalikHusam
                        If 'hawks win this, I nominate Geno Smith for MVP
                        What?
                        No love for Alex Collins?
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                        • BiTeMe UsAdOj
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                          • 08-18-11
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                          #257





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                          • Git Lo
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                            • 02-20-11
                            • 3785

                            #258
                            cousins and darnold in OT lets see it
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                            • MinnesotaFats
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                              • 12-18-10
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                              #259
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                              It's just another weeks work

                              Vs a winning team w #2 Defense in NFL

                              Guy is the best QB in football

                              Will be in HOF
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                              • Git Lo
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                                • 02-20-11
                                • 3785

                                #260
                                there are several qbs better than cousins and a few up and comers that will prob end up being better than cousins like burrow
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                                • Shutup
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                                  • 12-15-17
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                                  #261

                                  Cooper Rush for Hall of Fame
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                                  • Darkside Magick
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                                    • 05-28-10
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                                    #262
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                                    • wikkidinsane
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                                      • 05-30-10
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                                      #263
                                      you guys are assholes hahaha
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                                      • kingdom
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                                        • 07-25-10
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                                        #264
                                        mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.
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                                        • MinnesotaFats
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                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by kingdom
                                          mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.
                                          No, he's Phillip Rivers

                                          Kirk has honestly had to bail Zimmer out every fukking week

                                          We have 3 Ferarris on offense and Zimm throttles us down every week after the 1st qtr.

                                          He thinks his defense can win games and it can't....every week we blow a 4th qtr lead and Kirk has to bail us out
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                                          • kingdom
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                                            • 07-25-10
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                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                            No, he's Phillip Rivers

                                            Kirk has honestly had to bail Zimmer out every fukking week

                                            We have 3 Ferarris on offense and Zimm throttles us down every week after the 1st qtr.

                                            He thinks his defense can win games and it can't....every week we blow a 4th qtr lead and Kirk has to bail us out
                                            correction. he doesn't trust KIRK to bail u guys out. cause that's kinda not what he does lol.. he's a stat stuffer just like romo..
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                                            • wikkidinsane
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                                              • 05-30-10
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                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by kingdom
                                              mvp discussion for the other team..yes of course. every week. he is vinny testaverde mixed with trent dilfer and tony romo.
                                              lmfaooo
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65433

                                                #268
                                                Kirk is the 17th ranked QB in QBR
                                                Stafford is top ranked, Brady is second and he's not close to Stafford
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                                                • MinnesotaFats
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                                                  • 12-18-10
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                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by kingdom
                                                  correction. he doesn't trust KIRK to bail u guys out. cause that's kinda not what he does lol.. he's a stat stuffer just like romo..
                                                  Kirk has bailed him out every game....guy has 15 tds & 2 picks.

                                                  Week 1 gw FG missed
                                                  Week 2 go FG missed
                                                  Week 3 they win
                                                  Detroit game we get the gw fg

                                                  Literally Kirk should have 3 GW drives in 1st 6 weeks, but kicker missed....and these are fukking miracle drives. Like under 40 seconds stuff

                                                  Today he didn't get it but again, team had 0 shots, no creativity, 0 killer instinct in 2nd or 3rd despite multiple gaffs by Dal. Zimmer doesn't put teams away, he's a D coordinator.
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                    #270
                                                    rush completes 24 passes for 324 yds cousins completes 23 passes for 184 yds something not right there
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65433

                                                      #271
                                                      Kirk is what he is.
                                                      A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.
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                                                      • Kermit
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                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                        rush completes 24 passes for 324 yds cousins completes 23 passes for 184 yds something not right there
                                                        Dallas' receivers caught their passes.

                                                        Cousins laid out a perfect pass for Jefferson early in the game and Jefferson fukked up and stopped instead of running and catching the pass and taking it into the endzone. That woudl have changed the entire game.
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                                                        • MinnesotaFats
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                                                          • 12-18-10
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                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Kirk is what he is.
                                                          A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.
                                                          LOL who just happens to be 8th all time in passer rating, the Vikes all time season leader in comp/ att/ yards/ tds etc

                                                          Come on...where's your ranking for guts like Rivers, Kreig, Stafford, Luck, Kosar, etc

                                                          They never won shit either
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                                                          • lakerboy
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                                                            • 04-02-09
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                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Kirk is what he is.
                                                            A slightly better than mediocre starting QB.
                                                            What's good career record? Is he above.500?
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                                                            • pablo222
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                                                              • 01-03-19
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                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                              Kirk has bailed him out every game....guy has 15 tds & 2 picks.

                                                              Week 1 gw FG missed
                                                              Week 2 go FG missed
                                                              Week 3 they win
                                                              Detroit game we get the gw fg

                                                              Literally Kirk should have 3 GW drives in 1st 6 weeks, but kicker missed....and these are fukking miracle drives. Like under 40 seconds stuff

                                                              Today he didn't get it but again, team had 0 shots, no creativity, 0 killer instinct in 2nd or 3rd despite multiple gaffs by Dal. Zimmer doesn't put teams away, he's a D coordinator.
                                                              They should bring back Keenum to play QB and let Kurt Cousin kick game winning field goals.
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                                                              • stevenash
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                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65433

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                LOL who just happens to be 8th all time in passer rating, the Vikes all time season leader in comp/ att/ yards/ tds etc

                                                                Come on...where's your ranking for guts like Rivers, Kreig, Stafford, Luck, Kosar, etc

                                                                They never won shit either
                                                                Fats.
                                                                I know he's 'your' guy and all.
                                                                I'll sum up Cousins in two word.
                                                                "Pretty good"
                                                                He's a pretty good QB.

                                                                Stafford?
                                                                He's top ranked through seven games.
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                                                                • unde0087
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                                                                  #277
                                                                  Cousins should be bagging groceries at the local Walmart.
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    • 04-02-09
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                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by unde0087
                                                                    Cousins should be bagging groceries at the local Walmart.
                                                                    Well that might get him to the Superbowl.

                                                                    Warner
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65433

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      What's good career record? Is he above.500?
                                                                      No.
                                                                      Through 115 games Cousins career record is 56-57-2

                                                                      Now his career record is 56-58-2
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                                                                      • unde0087
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                                                                        • 03-27-08
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                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        Well that might get him to the Superbowl.

                                                                        Warner
                                                                        Laker, he can still get his snaps in, and by snaps I mean unsnapping a paper or plastic bag, but this way he can go home a winner.
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