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  • SBR Drew
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-08-18
    • 7351

    #1
    Poker improvements
    So along with the numerous positive changes we are going through at SBR we wanted to next address the Poker rooms. We have the daily tournaments as we all know and the 3-4 huge SBR Poker Events scheduled yearly. We now want feedback for the Ring games. We are interested in all of your feedback on these games. Are there any suggestions that could be mentioned to see more action in these games? What can we do to improve the games participation? Would you be interested in playing in more of these if we offered improvements? Please take a look and see what we can do to help us help you with the ring games.

    We appreciate your input.

  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    omaha hi during the week so people will actually play it
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65084

      #3
      drew im gonna make people mad here

      but a shit ton of people suggested sit n gos....they hardly ever filled and were discontinued

      omaha gets play because it is an easy way for people to rollover points and still have some points leftover to cash out of rollover since they suck at poker

      adding more omaha tables will not get more people playing, itll just make rollovers easier..it wont make more people play




      1. raise the amount you need to rollover in tourney wins

      2. make rake races. i assume you can see who has paid the most rake....just give out a weekly point total to those that are in the top 5, then monthly ones


      both of those combined will do it
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #4
        the problem with rake races is you could have 2 guys sitting at a table, see flop and fold to each other


        i recommend hours of like 7-9 est to contribute to it and it has to be at certain tables




        many angle shooters here so the rules will need adjusted
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        • jts1207
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-15-16
          • 8011

          #5
          mobile
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          • Daniel Espinosa
            SBR MVP
            • 07-07-19
            • 2828

            #6
            Higher limits. I dont understand why some limits disappear sometimes.

            Rake is too high. It cant be uncapped, its practically unbeatable.

            Higher buy in tournaments. High roller tournaments, like 200+15 or 1000+50 would be awsome.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #7
              Originally posted by jts1207
              mobile
              Maybe mobile but about 5 guys will come in saying mac

              And there's no way you see the return on the Mac investment
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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65084

                #8
                Originally posted by Daniel Espinosa
                Higher limits. I dont understand why some limits disappear sometimes.

                Rake is too high. It cant be uncapped, its practically unbeatable.

                Higher buy in tournaments. High roller tournaments, like 200+15 or 1000+50 would be awsome.
                There were high Roller tournaments

                Noone played
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  There were high Roller tournaments

                  Noone played
                  actually people did play, about 10-14...but sbr added points to the prize pool so they were losing points on them

                  id be interested to see how much rake was generated during the royal flush promo
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                  • shari91
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-23-10
                    • 32661

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                    There were high Roller tournaments

                    Noone played
                    Yeah the high roller thing never really worked back when we tried before. Even the ring games didn't work at a higher level. Several times it was just my kicking John's arse in there and the thought of taking our points was enough to entice a few to join but not enough to sustain it.

                    I remember back in the day when one of us staff were always in there monitoring chat, actively playing while watching the forum, stopping that whole flipping and folding bs, etc. I really do think you're right with rollover when it applies to Omaha and probably just in general to be honest. We probably need to look at putting some restrictions in place again as it's just a total turnoff for people who legit want to play.

                    I know that's the main reason I finally said stuff it and gave up... there's only so many times you want to sit at a table from someone only to realise they're merely rolling over or they flat out say it. Not so enjoyable for someone who just wants to have a fun session and maybe win a few points!
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                    • cincinnatikid513
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-23-17
                      • 45360

                      #11
                      monthy bounty tournament w staff get shari sbr genie drew the bag would love see jj gold play
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65084

                        #12
                        People get mad at me for my bash comments about freeloaders

                        Then I get fukkin pissed and say stupid shit to get myself banned when drinking


                        But really, how many within the top 30 of the current poker promo actually sit to play ring games with their own points instead of rollover points?

                        I'd bet less than 10% and id be surprised if it was over 5%
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                        • Auto Donk
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-03-13
                          • 43558

                          #13
                          set the rng to "truly random" from "suckout central shittiest hand always wins" would be nice
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                          • cincinnatikid513
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-23-17
                            • 45360

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Auto Donk
                            set the rng to "truly random" from "suckout central shittiest hand always wins" would be nice
                            get it in from behind
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                            • shari91
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-23-10
                              • 32661

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              People get mad at me for my bash comments about freeloaders

                              Then I get fukkin pissed and say stupid shit to get myself banned when drinking


                              But really, how many within the top 30 of the current poker promo actually sit to play ring games with their own points instead of rollover points?

                              I'd bet less than 10% and id be surprised if it was over 5%
                              I've never gotten mad at you about that and in fact I've done the same with people like Blitty, etc. (Sorry Blitt but you know it's true that you're a freeloader). I've flat out called them out for only appearing when it's time for a SBR funded ride to a Bash - including the DR ffs after not posting for a year plus before that - and Lou and Horseshoe Head were also very vocal in those cases. It's bs in my eyes that any of this is allowed to happen as I've always said people just take advantage of John's/SBR's generosity no matter the venue or even just on the forum but he's also a much kinder soul than I am.

                              In saying that, that rollover points thing though is complete whoreshit and needs to stop. Same with flipping. Really it's such a turnoff if we're trying to encourage more participants in there. I'm not sure what the solution is regarding rollover but people are just so blatantly taking the piss in the poker rooms now that surely we can come up with a way to avoid that tedium whilst still making it fair and fun for everyone.
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                              • biggie12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-30-05
                                • 13788

                                #16
                                is there omaha in the poker ring games havent logged in for years
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65084

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by shari91
                                  I've never gotten mad at you about that and in fact I've done the same with people like Blitty, etc. (Sorry Blitt but you know it's true that you're a freeloader). I've flat out called them out for only appearing when it's time for a SBR funded ride to a Bash - including the DR ffs after not posting for a year plus before that - and Lou and Horseshoe Head were also very vocal in those cases. It's bs in my eyes that any of this is allowed to happen as I've always said people just take advantage of John's/SBR's generosity no matter the venue or even just on the forum but he's also a much kinder soul than I am.

                                  In saying that, that rollover points thing though is complete whoreshit and needs to stop. Same with flipping. Really it's such a turnoff if we're trying to encourage more participants in there. I'm not sure what the solution is regarding rollover but people are just so blatantly taking the piss in the poker rooms now that surely we can come up with a way to avoid that tedium whilst still making it fair and fun for everyone.
                                  great post
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                                  • Daniel Espinosa
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-07-19
                                    • 2828

                                    #18
                                    Why not make ring games zero rake? I mean, since you give away so much points anyway, plus I dont think sbr generates a lot from poker rake, or do you?
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Daniel Espinosa
                                      Why not make ring games zero rake? I mean, since you give away so much points anyway, plus I dont think sbr generates a lot from poker rake, or do you?
                                      0 rake wont matter

                                      people played the high roller tourneys because of the sbr added points

                                      stay with me here



                                      the high roller tournaments only were played because of OVERLAY

                                      a net of 0 taken away will not result in overlay and it wont help sbr pay for running sbrpoker





                                      i try to offer points on both sides

                                      whereas, most posters only suggest stuff to help themselves
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                                      • cincinnatikid513
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-23-17
                                        • 45360

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        0 rake wont matter

                                        people played the high roller tourneys because of the sbr added points

                                        stay with me here



                                        the high roller tournaments only were played because of OVERLAY

                                        a net of 0 taken away will not result in overlay and it wont help sbr pay for running sbrpoker





                                        i try to offer points on both sides

                                        whereas, most posters only suggest stuff to help themselves
                                        get to poker rudy u need win today and tommorow that's it
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                                        • biggie12
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-30-05
                                          • 13788

                                          #21
                                          im sitting at poker and am playing by myself.

                                          MAJOR CHANGES NEEDED IT LOOKS LIKE
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                                          • yahoonino
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-10-07
                                            • 2651

                                            #22
                                            bring back 5-10 nl
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                                            • Daniel Espinosa
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-07-19
                                              • 2828

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              0 rake wont matter

                                              people played the high roller tourneys because of the sbr added points

                                              stay with me here



                                              the high roller tournaments only were played because of OVERLAY

                                              a net of 0 taken away will not result in overlay and it wont help sbr pay for running sbrpoker





                                              i try to offer points on both sides

                                              whereas, most posters only suggest stuff to help themselves
                                              Well. I would play all day if it were zero rake.

                                              Currently, I barely play. Low limits and high rake, not worth my time. HU rake is totally ridiculous btw.
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                                              • pablo222
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-03-19
                                                • 8858

                                                #24
                                                What about rakeback? Wouldn't that encourage more play in the ring games?
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                                                • BigOrange
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-13-09
                                                  • 6745

                                                  #25
                                                  Raise the Minimum buy-in to 50 BB's. Also add some Deep tables where you can buy-in 200 BB's.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Drew unban me from poker

                                                    Thanks
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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-14-07
                                                      • 28672

                                                      #27
                                                      Honestly, I don't know what else you could do to make it more popular and suitable for all?

                                                      Might be as good as it gets? Just saying.
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                                                      • zam77
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-03-10
                                                        • 3586

                                                        #28
                                                        Definitely mobile... will increase play 10 fold guaranteed. Even if functionality is limited to just ring games for whatever reason. I would play way more if I didn’t have to pull my laptop out to partake
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                                                        • GT21Megatron
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-20-13
                                                          • 10818

                                                          #29
                                                          Can we get this iOS friendly?? That’s the biggest gripe
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                                                          • mpaschal34
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-04-13
                                                            • 12086

                                                            #30
                                                            The ring games died when the payouts for daily tournaments were cut by more than half. No one can generate enough points to really build a bankroll so the ring games die. I used to play ring them all the time. Now I have to save what chips I earn for other things on here (mainly fantasy football leagues).

                                                            If we could purchase points, then I’m sure there would be a ton of action. However with not enough currency to go around, the ring games die out.
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                                                            • kidcudi92
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-14-11
                                                              • 15434

                                                              #31
                                                              Compatible with MAC please

                                                              Thanks
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                                                              • ttwarrior1
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 06-23-09
                                                                • 28450

                                                                #32
                                                                limit omaha hi lo, pineapple, a popup that lets you share on fbook or twitter after you win or runner up

                                                                bounty posted on twitter, must retweet and post it on sbr
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82669

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Fix the software first. It gets old getting beat by the river on every hand.
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                                                                  • Auto Donk
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-03-13
                                                                    • 43558

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • RangeFinder
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-27-16
                                                                      • 8041

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                      Compatible with MAC please

                                                                      Thanks
                                                                      This

                                                                      And get my sharp badge out of the safe for football
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