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  • rdalert447
    SBR High Roller
    • 06-25-07
    • 167

    #36
    New York has had horse racing for a hundred years. Still can’t get it right. Sports betting there will be one hilarious $hit show
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    • betsmart
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-04-10
      • 117

      #37
      ridiculous! Nobody driving Upsate NY to those dumps to bet......
      Cuomo is an idiot.........
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      • shocka1212
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-06-12
        • 16788

        #38
        Originally posted by allabout the $$$
        lets be honest not much sportsbetting wise going on memorial day weekend. march madness it was pretty packed. im sure football season its packed.
        I was literally one of three people in an entire sports book.. regardless, its not a good look
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        • shocka1212
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-12
          • 16788

          #39
          Originally posted by betsmart
          ridiculous! Nobody driving Upsate NY to those dumps to bet......
          Cuomo is an idiot.........
          all about in app betting. people won't have to go
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          • Reload
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-23-08
            • 12250

            #40
            Sweeper - You’ll have to call up New York’s GA and ask for sports picks
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            • sweep
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-09-10
              • 16753

              #41
              Originally posted by Reload
              Sweeper - You’ll have to call up New York’s GA and ask for sports picks
              im overdue for a good vid
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              • Crusherrr
                SBR MVP
                • 06-27-16
                • 3653

                #42
                Originally posted by sweep
                the value is in getting paid...look at the industry forum and tell me offshore is +1 over USA.....
                The value is in making money. You won't be able to make money with legal/regulated books. It's mind blowing people actually think this is going to kill offshore. Those that are betting REAL money and not just firing $2-$25 on games will stay offshore.
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #43
                  Originally posted by sweep
                  Good night offshore, hardley knew yeah
                  Books like Heritage, 5 Dimes and Bookmaker aren't going anywhere, the first two because of reduced juice, which is the primary reason they get most of my action despite my ability to bet legally in PA, and Bookmaker because of huge limits.

                  With that said, I have actually made some bets at Sugar House because that have occasionally had better lines on my plays, especially for MLB Totals. Still, I disagree with the reliable offshores going away in my lifetime.
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                  • shocka1212
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-06-12
                    • 16788

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Crusherrr
                    The value is in making money. You won't be able to make money with legal/regulated books. It's mind blowing people actually think this is going to kill offshore. Those that are betting REAL money and not just firing $2-$25 on games will stay offshore.
                    no point to leave off shore..
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #45
                      Originally posted by byronbb
                      The greek knew the writing was on the wall.
                      What does Greek have to do with anything pertaining to USA?
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                      • allabout the $$$
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-17-10
                        • 9843

                        #46
                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                        all about in app betting. people won't have to go
                        NY is not going to have app wagering for at least 3-5 years. Have to go to brick and mortar casino
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #47
                          Originally posted by sweep
                          the value is in getting paid...look at the industry forum and tell me offshore is +1 over USA.....
                          Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.
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                          • Crusherrr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-27-16
                            • 3653

                            #48
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.
                            For someone that's had $20k on Sportsbook, $10k on MyBookie and $8k on Betagame. All which are low rated books or not rated by SBR and I've been paid every cent every time. MyBookie was the only one who needed time to "review" for 24 hours and it's been problem free since.

                            I get paid faster offshore than I do from the NJ sites in most cases too.
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                            • SBR Tony
                              Moderator
                              • 01-31-18
                              • 3934

                              #49
                              You might want to think that offshore will be going away any time soon but in reality it would take years before they take a major hit.
                              and even then those offshore books will come up with ways to keep most players.
                              be it more books offering reduced juice, more wager types, more props and better bonuses with maybe no or less rollovers

                              you also might want to hang onto those offshore books for better lines

                              what about the big players ? or those 8-10 team parlays. Do you really want to share some of that money to "uncle sam" ?
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                              • themike78
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-01-13
                                • 4873

                                #50
                                The U.S is not the entire market for most of these offshore books. Just look at all the books that have left the U.S market and are doing just fine. I can get paid within a half hour playing offshore so faster payouts are not an issue either. And not many people want to drive hours away to place a bet when you can bet at home. Offshore is going nowhere.
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                                • Crusherrr
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-27-16
                                  • 3653

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by themike78
                                  The U.S is not the entire market for most of these offshore books. Just look at all the books that have left the U.S market and are doing just fine. I can get paid within a half hour playing offshore so faster payouts are not an issue either. And not many people want to drive hours away to place a bet when you can bet at home. Offshore is going nowhere.
                                  Exactly this. Especially seeing as NY wont have apps anytime soon. I live 5 minutes from NY state line but it will be closer for me to get a bet down by driving to New Jersey than it would be for me to drive to closest NY Casino that would have a sportsbook.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #52
                                    Offshore is actually going to get bigger and bigger
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                                    • Joey Vigs
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-10-18
                                      • 1425

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                      JJ in Panic mode
                                      Of course he is. Who else is going to pay him $500 a week to post drivel on the internet?
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #54
                                        Offshore is booming


                                        Only the suckers are going to bet high juice Because they think getting paid fast is so important but gamblers are losers so it doesn’t matter
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                                        • Gmen30
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-13-10
                                          • 1405

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by sweep
                                          "please send us a selfie of you holding your rooster and an electric bill....we might need a reach around and a blow bang. Thanks in advance, the KYC department"
                                          So true. Just had an issue with Bet America bonuses that was resolved in 6 minutes.
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.


                                            This can't be overstated, it is the very essence of a lot of offshore betting money, no matter the country it comes from.
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                                            • Snowball
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 11-15-09
                                              • 30057

                                              #57
                                              Offshore will be fine, Vegas real estate will suffer a lot.
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                                              • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-15-12
                                                • 21746

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                For someone that's had $20k on Sportsbook, $10k on MyBookie and $8k on Betagame. All which are low rated books or not rated by SBR and I've been paid every cent every time. MyBookie was the only one who needed time to "review" for 24 hours and it's been problem free since.

                                                I get paid faster offshore than I do from the NJ sites in most cases too.


                                                Literally 5 minutes via ACH & PP and 15 mins from the time across the bridge to the cage at Resorts / Trop / Ocean
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #59
                                                  most people do not live close to books

                                                  a hassle parking, etc

                                                  lines just too good offshore maybe other than NFL Spreads

                                                  Do not bet Money Lines USA most too high juice
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                                                  • goduke
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-17-10
                                                    • 11580

                                                    #60
                                                    Until these books have online wagering it doesn’t mean much.
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                                                    • eidolon
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-02-08
                                                      • 9531

                                                      #61
                                                      California next?
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                                                      • Outsider626
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-10-16
                                                        • 855

                                                        #62
                                                        Unless you can place a wager in grocery store while buying mega million ticket i doubt it will be successful here. No way in hell im traveling to casino to place a wager.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #63
                                                          PA #s have been low because no mobile betting

                                                          Majority of NJ books barely making a profit due to bad lines and over crowding of the market

                                                          AC books empty
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by eidolon
                                                            California next?
                                                            Not even close, it sounds, and Cali would be the largest sports betting market in the country.

                                                            The Cali constitution added a ballot in 2000 that gives jurisdiction over all gambling to Native American Tribes, it's considered de jure and their fundamental right.

                                                            Racetracks and card rooms are the other gambling entities but they are essentially frozen because the Tribes rule.

                                                            Every bill or mention of legalized sportsbetting in Cali gets squashed by the Tribes.

                                                            Citizens are trying though, they just can't get anything going over the last few years.
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #65
                                                              Offshore 'runners' are all over Cali... CASH settle
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #66
                                                                Make no mistake, we're getting down out here, but man it's crazy how the legislature allows one group so much power over gambling, enough to sway votes and kill bills.

                                                                The Tribes never were dialed into the Vegas lines, they weren't their lines to sell, but now they could get a chance.

                                                                I think there is a fear that a fantasy site or even Will Hill will take over, the Tribes continue to protect their interest.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Sammy give us a number
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                                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                                    • 58063

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold

                                                                    Sammy give us a number

                                                                    a settle number ?

                                                                    keep it low so you wont get in trouble...

                                                                    $3K
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Cali would be the biggest sport betting market in the country.

                                                                      Not sure anyone is close.

                                                                      But hey, the estimated $100 million in state revenue, which is nothing compared to the billions dollar budget, could go to pay for the bill making it's way through the state legislature that forces Cali to pay for the healthcare of illegal alien males 19-25 years old.

                                                                      When it came time to add the figure for care for citizens over age 65, the lawmakers said there wasn't enough money for that, we can't afford that.

                                                                      Unreal.
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