Prime Time Presidential Address from Oval Office in game thread Jan 8

[thomorino]

The reality is the people hurt most by illegal immigration are working class people without a college degree since moault illegals undercut their wages. Dems have sold out the working class over and over, now these people have woken up. They see liberals just talk a good game but so nothing for then, Obama crushed the middle class with Obamacare and inflation.

[sourtwist]

What is it with the obsession with gay sex you guys have. Talk about projection.

there you go again man

if you can't win an argument....make shit up

[thomorino]

Every liberal arguing against trump makes the same dumb arguments, trump supporters are conspiracy theorists, trump collided with Russia even though there is no evidence, trump is a liar, evwn though they have no evidence for that clIm either.

[Venom72]

I'm into immigration law reform over even the wall build. I just really wanna see illegal immigration fixed and stop.. I live in California and see what it's done to my State.. Not good

I voted for Obama first term and I voted for Trump just for the record because of immigration reform. Neither has delivered so far. I just wanna see America safer and prosper period under any President. I'm a Patriot and I know Presidents come and go.. I hate the SWAMP and POLITICS today more then ever before.. That is all..

If I wanted to live in Mexico I'd move there.. I live in America for now but that's changing..

^^^See thats shit from a trump supporter i can respect and im cool with, you should be honest more often! that trump cult shit like most of these dudes is on is retarded

[JIBBBY]

The reality is the people hurt most by illegal immigration are working class people without a college degree since moault illegals undercut their wages. Dems have sold out the working class over and over, now these people have woken up. They see liberals just talk a good game but so nothing for then, Obama crushed the middle class with Obamacare and inflation.

Black community in the ghetto's are the ones hurting the most out here in Southern California.. Mexicans are taking up all the housing, clogging the public schools, and taking all the low income jobs. Completely changed the demographics in Compton. Blacks in the low income areas get the brunt of all that and no one else. Getting pushed out.

[Venom72]

Every liberal arguing against trump makes the same dumb arguments, trump supporters are conspiracy theorists, trump collided with Russia even though there is no evidence, trump is a liar, evwn though they have no evidence for that clIm either.

Youre nothing more than a talking point from fox news, oh and fuk off

[Auto Donk]

The only people that fell for this is his uneducated redneck base.

hmmm.... let's cnn "fact check" this statement with you know who:

Q: hiLIARy, did trump's speech sell you on the wall, particularly in light of you having previously voiced support for a border barrier?






A:

[thomorino]

Youre nothing more than a talking point from fox news, oh and fuk off

Fuk off

[thomorino]

The other thing liberals don't talkative bout besides how successful the wall has been in Israel is how successful fencing has been around san diego, a wall would be even better.

[Kermit]

I still don't get why the Dems are giving Trump such a hard time. They have one of their own doing exactly what they want.

[Auto Donk]

The only people that fell for this is his uneducated redneck base.

many here took umbrage with the redneck label.... not me....

count me in......

[PAULYPOKER]

[L8night]

Donnie was playing fear factor, Chuck had it right....

[RoyBacon]

The reality is the people hurt most by illegal immigration are working class people without a college degree since moault illegals undercut their wages. Dems have sold out the working class over and over, now these people have woken up. They see liberals just talk a good game but so nothing for then, Obama crushed the middle class with Obamacare and inflation.

This,,,

[EmpireMaker]

Trump has already added 2 Trillion to the deficit in 2 years, the RIDICULOUS wall would cost North of 50 Billion.

$5 Billion out of $4+ TRILLION budget is nothing. Take that money out of the over $100+ Billion USA gives away to other countries that don't like us. Do they argue this much over the other $4 TRILLION? Government would always be shut down if that was the case. Seal the border so children won't be dragged on dangerous trips. Mexico has 9 US consulates and 1 US embassy where people can seek entry.

[jjgold]

Trump 2020

[EmpireMaker]

Why is Trump asking for money from the US taxpayers when Mexico is going to pay for his wall ? or is it OK to just keep making up facts as you go along ?

Stoic speech. Nancy and Chuck replied and the bottom line is just sign on for a measly 5 bil to extend the steel fencing that already is partly there to secure the open points. It's reasonable and sensible.. It's not a Wall and Trump won't get the win..

This is just silly and mindless at this point.

[rkelly110]

The reality is the people hurt most by illegal immigration are working class people without a college degree since moault illegals undercut their wages. Dems have sold out the working class over and over, now these people have woken up. They see liberals just talk a good game but so nothing for then, Obama crushed the middle class with Obamacare and inflation.

dumb

[RoyBacon]

ALL these TDS dems voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

Why? Because they work.

Cost? $50 billion over 25 years. (not a typo...it's right in the bill)

Material? A double(not single) reinforced fence and concrete barriers.

They have no leg to stand on.

[EmpireMaker]

Every liberal arguing against trump makes the same dumb arguments, trump supporters are conspiracy theorists, trump collided with Russia even though there is no evidence, trump is a liar, evwn though they have no evidence for that clIm either.

Trump colluded with Russia, they wanted him to change the GOP platform and drop sanctions, he wanted to get elected and get funding for his Moscow tower project.
There is plenty of evidence.
The GOP, Fox "News" and Trump make up stories to try to escape the truth. These Earth shattering revelations see the light of day and are immediately disproved by facts and Fox stops talking about them and almost immediately starts feeding you the next ridiculous story. What happened to the Nunes report ? He never even read the underlying documents but was going to end the whole investigation with his report ? Trump statements are proven false daily.

[L8night]

Why is Trump asking for money from the US taxpayers when Mexico is going to pay for his wall ? or is it OK to just keep making up facts as you go along ?

How soon they forget that in 2017, the leak of the phone call with the Mexican president, Donnie told him, that he needed to quit telling the press that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, bad publicity...

[EmpireMaker]

The wall does next to nothing to stop drugs from coming into this country. Drugs come in by car and truck through legal checkpoints, by boat, by air and by tunnels UNDER THE STUPID WALL. It is a 5th century solution for a 21st century problem. These poor bastards aren't walking a thousand miles to carry a couple kilos of coke through the desert.

Pretty simple border agents and experts want the wall they are the ones putting their lives on the line not us and by the way he said that drugs flood across our borders never said if they came in illegally or not..he gave raw data and facts so suck it..debate over the agents want it...

[brooks85]

best part is you have trump who has done more for this country than every modern president combined AND has fulfilled more campaign promises than every modern president so it's driving sheep crazy. They are not used to it especially after obama.

[EmpireMaker]

He raised the national debt 2 Trillion already, he promised to eliminate it.
He promised Mexico would pay for a border wall, No Wall and Mexico not paying a cent.
He promised to help US companies keep jobs here, his tariffs are doing just the opposite, for example, Ford and Harley two of the most American companies are leaving and American jobs are going with them. He promised Carrier employees he would keep the plant here instead of moving it to Mexico, the company is moving to Mexico. Trump took credit for an economy that Obama had going in the right direction and now that Trump's policies are starting to affect the economy it is rapidly heading in the wrong direction.
BUT SO MUCH WINNING RIGHT ?

best part is you have trump who has done more for this country than every modern president combined AND has fulfilled more campaign promises than every modern president so it's driving sheep crazy. They are not used to it especially after obama.

[EmpireMaker]

Not to mention Trump is DESTROYING farmers, many of whom voted for him.

[brooks85]

He raised the national debt 2 Trillion already, he promised to eliminate it. Only a moron would believe this. IT's impossible.
He promised Mexico would pay for a border wall, No Wall and Mexico not paying a cent. No trump voter cared who was paying for the wall.
He promised to help US companies keep jobs here(and he did and they have), his tariffs are doing just the opposite(no they are not so don't lie), for example, Ford and Harley two of the most American companies are leaving and American jobs are Ford and Harley two of the most American companies are leaving and American jobs are going with them.. going with them(nothing to do with tariffs),. He promised Carrier (wasn't a campaign promise) employees he would keep the plant here instead of moving it to Mexico, the company is moving to Mexico. Trump took credit for an economy that Obama had going in the right direction (this show you have no idea what you're talking about)and now that Trump's policies are starting to affect the economy it is rapidly heading in the wrong direction. (this show you have no idea what you're talking about)
BUT SO MUCH WINNING RIGHT ?

any more?

[brooks85]

Not to mention Trump is DESTROYING farmers, many of whom voted for him.

then why are farmers overwhelmingly supporting him?

[brooks85]

He raised the national debt 2 Trillion already, he promised to eliminate it.
He promised Mexico would pay for a border wall, No Wall and Mexico not paying a cent.
He promised to help US companies keep jobs here, his tariffs are doing just the opposite, for example, Ford and Harley two of the most American companies are leaving and American jobs are going with them. He promised Carrier employees he would keep the plant here instead of moving it to Mexico, the company is moving to Mexico. Trump took credit for an economy that Obama had going in the right direction and now that Trump's policies are starting to affect the economy it is rapidly heading in the wrong direction.
BUT SO MUCH WINNING RIGHT ?

this is all one needs to see to know you have no idea wtf you're talking about. ZERO.

[brooks85]

and new to the list;

putting China in check since obama was an idiot.... check




Trump ends Clean Power Plan... check

DACA is ended... check


over 800 regulations frozen or rolled back since Trump took office... check

not increasing refugee in-take 550%... check

supreme court justice... check

out of tpp.. check

out of paris accord... check

renegotiating NAFTA... check

treating iran like the enemy they are instead of an ally... check

increased business optimism and hiring... check

actual deportations instead of fake ones... check

a real, financially responsible, budget proposed.. check

healthcare reform... check

veteran affairs reform... check

2 regulations removed when a new one is implemented... check

pro-life support which defunded planned parenthood from pushing abortions abroad... check

getting rid of anti-american gun regulations put in place by obama... check

stopped giving privileges to illegals in detention centers... check

updated, old and out of date, vetting program to see who is entering this country... check

stopped 4 million illegals from getting amnesty... check

public education system back on track... check

anti-american and unscientific EPA regulations gone... check

approved keystone... check

forced G-20 to remove any mention climate change scam from joint statement... check

strike on syria...check

cut costs of new regulations to just .012% of obama's, 33million vs 26 billion... check

fired anti-americans like sally yates... check

said the words "radical islamic terrorist" which obama NEVER did during presidential address... check

[RoyBacon]

That's a partial list.

I'll add;

Increased GDP from 1.8% to 3.3% via tax cuts

Increased wages from rising 0.2% to 3.1%

and new to the list;

putting China in check since obama was an idiot.... check




Trump ends Clean Power Plan... check

DACA is ended... check


over 800 regulations frozen or rolled back since Trump took office... check

not increasing refugee in-take 550%... check

supreme court justice... check

out of tpp.. check

out of paris accord... check

renegotiating NAFTA... check

treating iran like the enemy they are instead of an ally... check

increased business optimism and hiring... check

actual deportations instead of fake ones... check

a real, financially responsible, budget proposed.. check

healthcare reform... check

veteran affairs reform... check

2 regulations removed when a new one is implemented... check

pro-life support which defunded planned parenthood from pushing abortions abroad... check

getting rid of anti-american gun regulations put in place by obama... check

stopped giving privileges to illegals in detention centers... check

updated, old and out of date, vetting program to see who is entering this country... check

stopped 4 million illegals from getting amnesty... check

public education system back on track... check

anti-american and unscientific EPA regulations gone... check

approved keystone... check

forced G-20 to remove any mention climate change scam from joint statement... check

strike on syria...check

cut costs of new regulations to just .012% of obama's, 33million vs 26 billion... check

fired anti-americans like sally yates... check

said the words "radical islamic terrorist" which obama NEVER did during presidential address... check

[thomorino]

dumb

Fuk off

[brooks85]

That's a partial list.

I'll add;

Increased GDP from 1.8% to 3.3% via tax cuts

Increased wages from rising 0.2% to 3.1%

lool yeah I had a running list going but haven't updated it in months so definitely some things missing.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/politics-economics/3400890-list-trumps-most-important-accomplishments-liars-like-andy-dante-will-run.html

[brooks85]

the one I posted is not even the updated list about being out of Iran deal too.



ANOTHER CAMPAIGN PROMISE... check

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Maga
strong

[Mr KLC]

It's a total waste of time nowadays to try to get a liberal to understand that the ice is melting below them with decades of these same policies. It's like with my son. I can tell him a million times the correct way to do something, but it goes in one ear and out the other. Something bad has to happen to him before he gets the idea.\

The problem is that bad things happen to people who vote Democratic, and they keep asking for more. All of these major cities have voted Democratic for decades, but they still have the same problems. So what do they do? They blame someone else, and vote for the same hypocrites over and over again. Example: Chicago. All of the shootings in that city, and instead of admitting what they are doing is not right, they blame Indiana because they still allow gun sales. Most of these people are never going to change because they have embraced misery, and whining is easier to do than working yourself out of it.

Want to see it on a bigger scale? I was reading on Venezuela this morning. They have had Socialist policies for 2 decades, and look who they blame:

Despite the anger at President Maduro - which appeared to prompt an alleged assassination attempt in August - he was voted in for a second term in 2018.

However, the opposition boycotted the vote and many other groups were barred from taking part.

But there is still a loyal core of people who support the government and who say that Venezuela's problems are caused not by President Maduro or his predecessor, but by a hostile and coup-mongering opposition inside the country, and "imperialist forces" like the US and neighbouring Colombia outside it.

They say that US sanctions have hampered the government by making it hard to restructure its debt.

Often, they have benefited directly from the government's social programmes - and argue that despite the shortages, they are still better off now than before Mr Chávez came to power in 1999.